Christian Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Renew your mind

Kidron

Member
God saved you because he loves you so that you can do his will.
You cant know his will if you dont renew your mind so that your mind begins to reflect his mind.
His will is for you to become like Christ and operate in the earth exactly like Christ, and you cant do that until you have the mind of Christ that Paul talks about.
And how is the mind of Christ?
You read the New Testament?
How IS Christ's mind......what did he do?..........as you know his mind by what he did.
Did he ever make anyone sick?
Did he ever unraise the dead?
Did he ever cast a demon into a person?
Did he ever take anyone's money and not promise them a "10-100 fold" return????
No he didnt, because his mind is not to do those things.
And if your mind thinks he now does, then your mind is nothing like the mind of Christ.
And the more a Christian's mind is not like God's mind.... then the more they will talk about suffering and health issues and money issues as if this is God's will for them.
However, the very acts of Jesus mirror his mind and the mind of his Father, and that is why he only gives LIFE, and PEACE, and JOY, and HEALTH, and HEALING, and material gain as need be.

Now regarding all this...^^^^^^^ there is a revelation knowledge gap between being born again as a babe in Christ and then coming into the deeper revelation knowledge of exactly who you are as a Son of God.
The fact is, you are already, in God's mind and purpose, exactly like Christ.
EXACTLY.
Yet, his knowledge of who you are does not reflect your ability to do the works of Christ, until your understanding of who you are in Christ is exactly like God's Salvation has redeemed you to be which energizes your faith so that you can do his will.
So, depending on how much lack of understanding you have regarding who you are in Christ and your misunderstanding of it, will be reflected by your life , and in your faith, and by your mouth.
For example, if you dont yet know that you have legal rights, birthrights, to all that Christ IS, and all that God has, then you will not understand that poverty is not ever to be a sustained part of your Sonship.

If you dont understand who Christ is, and what he did for you, then you cant realize who you are meant to be, as you are supposed to be exactly like him.
So, in general a large % of the body of Christ is in the dark regarding their understanding of who they have become "in Christ" and what this deeply means.
And that is why a large % of believers accept sickness and accept poverty and falsely/incorrectly/unbiblically accept that Jesus gave it to them.
Yet, If they knew who he is, and understood what he did and what he wants them to do, then they would not have such a low and unfortunate idea regarding who they are IN HIM.
In fact they would not be seriously blaspheming by attributing to him, the works of the devil, that Jesus came to destroy..John 10:10

So, the greater the lack of knowledge a believer has of who Christ is and what Salvation has restored them to be, = the more they will waste all their time dealing with the devil's plan for their life, while thinking this is God giving them a test.

You can always spot the Christian who is blinded by the devil, as they never consider the MESS they are in , came from the devil, and will always instead blame it on ...."God is growing me in this hardship"...which is blasphemy.
You have to be careful who you blame for the devil's work.

Two things are not real to most Christians in the USA.
>Heaven and the Devil.....>

Most Christians have no idea of the riches used to create Heaven.
They think its some sort of see through glass house built on spirituality.
They have never read The Revelation which describes heaven.
If they did, and believed their bible, they would realize that this description is not symbolic., it is literal., and these riches that God has used to create this amazing place , are available for them to meet their needs and finance their ministry.
Sometimes I get the idea from one of the poverty gospel types that they think that Satan created the Gold used to cover a large part of Soloman's temple.

Ive got news for you.
Christ created the Gold and knows its value.
Some of You are the ones with the money/prosperty problem, not God.
God loves prosperity, as its a divine form of him.
He made the Gold, and some of you created the wrong Theology to deny it.
(God owns it and we are his HEIRS).;)
John 1:10 and Colossians 1:15,16,17 and Romans 8:17

Christians who are not really believing their bible, always try to spiritualize it instead of rightly dividing it.
They want to spiritualize all the wealth and prosperity verses.
They will take a verse that says......"God delights in the prosperity of his children", and rewrite it to fit their poverty gospel theology to say....."God delights in the spiritual growth of his suffering children who God has condemned to a lifelong bout of sickness or poverty to mature them like Mother Theresa or Joni E".

They will take a verse like......"It is the Lord who gives you power to get Wealth", ......and they will rewrite it to fit their poverty gospel theology so that it says......."It is the Lord who gives you the ability to deal with all the sickness and hard times he can possibly send you, so, never mind the Devil ....Jesus gave him the day off and is substituting for him today....so here is some cancer...enjoy"..

As i was saying, the larger the knowledge disconnect between who we are in Christ as Priests and KINGS ..>Revelation 1:6<.. and who a lot of believers THINK we are in Christ, which is to say, lowly suffering poverty chasers with a martyr's complex, the less they are and the less they will do for him.

So, yeah, you are to renew your mind with the bible, and if you do, you will begin to operate in the fullness of your position in Christ as long as you are taught how to rightly divide the word so that you are not endlessly trying to condemn yourself or endlessly trying to harm yourself....or endlessly try to lose your salvation.




K
 
Last edited by a moderator:
First off Gods will is to love as it is His greatest commandment, Matthew 22:36-40, and the second is to love your neighbor as yourself. If we truly have the mind of Christ through His Spiritual rebirth in us that has Spiritually renewed our inner man, John 3:3-7 then we will remain in His perfect will and continue in the same works of Christ that are mentioned in Matthew 25:31-40 as this is to know the mind of Christ and what he expects of us here on earth.

Prosperity means a state of material or spiritual bountifulness. Salvation means to be whole mind, body and soul as we surrender our will to God and allow his will to work in our lives by applying Gods word to every aspect of our lives. This allows us to know the mind of Christ and all the promises of God for our own well being so we can face anything that tries to come against us while here on this earth so we can triumph and be victorious through the grace and mercy of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus.

Philippians 4:19 But my God shall supply all our need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

God will supply our need and what is our need other than food and shelter. Anything above that is our own gain and has nothing to do with God as anything above his provision for us is of our own vanities. Yes, it's nice to have money and be able to buy those things you desire of the material, but if you are not helping those in need then all your gain can become your idol to worship.

I am a joint-heir with Christ, a royal priesthood a peculiar nation who has all the riches of the Kingdom of God, 1 Peter 2:9-12. Treasures here on Earth will vanish as my treasures are better off stored up in heaven. If I can help at least one I am better off for that one than none.

Psalms 23:1 The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want (be in need)

Psalms 24:1-5

1 (A Psalm of David.) The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

2 For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.

3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?

4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

5 He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.

Psalms 84:11, 12
11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.

12 O LORD of hosts, blessed is the man that trusteth in thee.
 
First off Gods will is to love as it is His greatest commandment, Matthew 22:36-40, and the second is to love your neighbor as yourself. If we truly have the mind of Christ through His Spiritual rebirth in us that has Spiritually renewed our inner man, John 3:3-7 then we will remain in His perfect will and continue in the same works of Christ that are mentioned in Matthew 25:31-40 as this is to know the mind of Christ and what he expects of us here on earth.


Good choice.
Take it all the way......and that means to live holy, study the word, preach the word, and by "preach", this does not mean that all of us are called to be preachers in the sense of a church building and a pulpit and a Congregation, as that is a pastor......however, you and me and every believer reading this has a responsibility to win the lost.
God never saved anyone so that they can ignore soul winning,.. and soul winning is not just being a silent example for Christ........Soul winning is taking the truth to the lost and allowing them to hear it from your mouth as "faith comes by hearing"< and this means they cant hear it unless you tell them.
After you tell them its God's work until he saves them, and if that occurs then its your ministry to take a bible and take some time and show them the basic fundamentals of the faith.
It is your ministry to be available for them as they will need you.



Prosperity means a state of material or spiritual bountifulness. Salvation means to be whole mind, body and soul as we surrender our will to God and allow his will to work in our lives by applying Gods word to every aspect of our lives. This allows us to know the mind of Christ and all the promises of God for our own well being so we can face anything that tries to come against us while here on this earth so we can triumph and be victorious through the grace and mercy of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus.

Yes.
Salvation is the entrance into the family of God through Christ alone...And once in the family of God you have the rights of a Son, the same as Jesus has, as you and he are both SONS.
So, your birthright is a legal covenant that allows you to have your prayers answered and to know the will of God.
Your birthright gives you access to all that God has, all that God is, and all that God can do.



Philippians 4:19 But my God shall supply all our need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.''
God will supply our need and what is our need other than food and shelter. Anything above that is our own gain and has nothing to do with God as anything above his provision for us is of our own vanities. Yes, it's nice to have money and be able to buy those things you desire of the material, but if you are not helping those in need then all your gain can become your idol to worship.


Actually, you need more then food and shelter.
Water, for example.
You also need clothes to not go naked in the street.
You need a vehicle to take you to work unless you are going to live naked in the street and never work.
You need money so that you can buy food so that your kids and your pets dont starve.
So, its a bit more the food and shelter, and God knows this...
The other thing is this......If you are called into the ministry and you are called to pastor a congregation, you are going to need a building, seats, a microphone, lights, a sound system, and if you have a choir you are going to need robes, etc.
So, God also knows that any ministry has to be equipped and he is happy to equip what he has ordained to exist.
If God called you to build 500 water wells in Africa, and then didnt provided the FUNDS to buy the wells.....or if God told you to build a hospital in the jungles of south america and didnt provide the funds to build the hospital and equip it and pay the employees so that the Doctors and Patients can EAT , then he is pretty stupid, and if thats the case, then worship The Buddha.
Thankfully, God is not stupid, tho a lof of his children have a lot to learn about Salvation and Sonship..
And one more thing.......if you are going to pay someones house payment, so they can keep their home, or if you are going to pay someones car payment so they can keep their car, then you need some money to pay it as the mortgage company is not taking IOUs or Food Stamps.
God, who is not stupid, understands that he cant tell you to feed the poor and then not supply the COST of the FOOD or the Food.
Isnt it great to discover that our God can understand simple things like the fact that we have to have things in order to do the things he asks us to do?
Thats how it works and he should know as he is the One who created the Our Need<> His Supply Faith system.


I am a joint-heir with Christ, a royal priesthood a peculiar nation who has all the riches of the Kingdom of God, 1 Peter 2:9-12. Treasures here on Earth will vanish as my treasures are better off stored up in heaven. If I can help at least one I am better off for that one than none.


You'll need some money to help the poor, as its money they dont have.......and lucky for us believers is the fact that God understands all this and has the supply that we need so that we can bless as he wills.


Psalms 23:1 The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want (be in need)

Psalms 24:1-5

1 (A Psalm of David.) The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.
2 For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.
3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?
4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
5 He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.
Psalms 84:11, 12
11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.
12 O LORD of hosts, blessed is the man that trusteth in thee


Yes, these are wonderful scriptures that speak of the goodness of God and the blessings of God and the provision of God.
Where would we be if we as SONS could not count on him as FATHER to provide?
Wouldn't we be in a MESS???
If he didnt provide our breath we would not even be here today to discuss it.
Everything is provided, and we are just the blessed.
Even the lost are blessed, if they are still breathing.
God is good., all the time.....His mercy endures forever.



K




.
....................
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Back
Top