Rev 6:1-8 Four Seals

[for_his_glory]

2 Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 Peter 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

Revelation 6:1-8
First seal - white horse, Matthew 24:5

Second seal - red horse Matthew 24:6

Third seal - black horse Matthew 24:7

Fourth seal - pale horse Matthew 24:8,9

The scoffers say we have always had wars and rumors of war, nations against nations, pestilences, and earth quakes and they are right about that, but do not see the greater sign even here in America that all these things are on a greater scale worldwide and not centrally located anymore. The increase is the beginning of sorrows spoken of in Matthew 24:1-13 and Rev Chapter six as I believe we are into the first six seals with the seventh seal getting closer that begins the seven trumpets sounding. Maybe in our life time or not, it is still coming and now is the time to be prepared for the return of the Lord.

They do not see that of antichrist who will promise peace and show great wonders in the sky that could even deceive the very elect if possible as this false prophet will show that of Christ coming in the air and many will see this false christ and take the mark of this beast, bowing down and worship the beast, Revelation chapter 13.

Revelation 6:1-8:

And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

White horse represents a rider with great power and authority as in early wars where Generals would always ride a white horse as they went forth conquering and to conquer. The rider of this white horse is a false Christ: Matthew 24:5, 24; Revelation 19:11-15.

And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

Red horse symbolizes Global war bringing much bloodshed to the land. The rider on the red horse takes peace from the earth and they should kill one another and there was given unto him a great sword: Matthew 24:6-10; Revelation 19:15

And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Black horse is a symbol of famine as the rider holds a pair of balances in his hands causing much famine which follows after wars. Many will not be able to afford a days wage in order to feed for their families. Instead of coming to God they reach out to the beast out of the earth as they receive the mark of this beast, Rev 13; 1 Kings 8:37-43; Romans 8:34.

And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Pale horse is a symbol of sickness and disease that follows after war that causes great famine in the world as many become sick and weak from dehydration and malnutrition and eventually die.

The pale horse riders name is Death. Following Death is Hell which means one that is laid in a grave after they have physically died as you can read in Strong’s Exhausted Concordance Hebrew #7585 – Greek # 86. Death is not a final destination, but a state of being until Christ returns and all, saint and sinner, will hear the voice of Christ to raise from their graves as some will raise to eternal life and some to eternal damnation, John 5:28, 29, Revelation 20:11-15.

 

[Dave Watchman]

I believe we are into the first six seals with the seventh seal getting closer that begins the seven trumpets sounding.

I still think that it's happening right now. For the sake of the elect. The Calvinists have this part covered somewhere in their Westminster Confession of Faith when they talk about the elect infantry, or the infantry of the elect.

The Devil has been able to push the timing of this further out into the future, working through the composite beast, by popularizing abortion around the world. He's doing a similar thing to what he was doing when Jesus was a baby, the slaughter of the innocents.

I think we are into all seven seals, but they are not what the prophecy expositors have always told us they would be. I think most of Revelation is happening now, like a tribulum of the Matrix. People are walking around like things are normal. but they're not.

The opening of the seventh, in the midst of the sixth, has put us into lock-down mode. Freeze frame mode. Suspended animation. However you want to describe it. Heaven has gone silent. The prophetic voice has gone silent, for about the space of half an hour. Half a "hora". Where the half an hour, half a "hora", means a time, a season or half a year.

While we wait for our brothers and fellow servants to enter the world. Jesus will not lose any that the Father gives Him. But this is one specification that only the Father knows, no man can know, not even the angels of heaven.

Time in Bible Times
By Charles Francis Potter

The word "hour" comes from the Greek word "hora." The "Horae" were the three mythological goddesses of the seasons— spring, summer and winter. This was before autumn was recognized as a season. Their names were Eunomia, Dike and Eirene, meaning Good Order, Justice and Peace, guardians of the orderly succession of the processes of nature.

"Hora" therefore meant "season" in a very general sense, almost synonymous with "a time." It was simply a measurable lapse of time with a beginning and an end, but with no uniform length of duration. That ancient Greek meaning of the word persisted into New Testament times even after "hora" came to be used also to mean a division of the day. Consequently, when the translators came across the word "hora," they found it very difficult to deter- mine what English word to use.

Several times they translated "hora" as "day" ; several other times they rendered it "season," and they were correct in so doing. But in some verses where "hora" should have been translated "moment" or "instant," they rendered it "hour."
Even in the many places in the New Testament where the word "hora" is used to indicate a period of time somewhat corresponding to our modern hour, it should be understood by the Bible reader that the New Testament hour varied greatly in length.

There were astronomers then, to be sure, who had carefully worked out the exact length of the day from their observation of the stars and the equinoxes, and had divided the day into 24 equal parts or hours, like the ones we use today. These they measured by a clever mechanical device which they called the clepsydra, literally the water-stealer, a primitive forerunner of the clock.

But the common people of New Testament times, in their homes and in business, knew nothing of the day of 24 equal hours. To them the day was the period between sunrise and sunset, and that was divided into 12 equal parts called hours. Of course, the hours were therefore much longer in summer than in winter. In mid- winter their hour was equal to only three-fourths of one of our hours and in midsummer was as long as our hour and a quarter. But in their leisurely method of living, they did not worry about such small matters.

© The Royal Astronomical Society of Canada • Provided by the NASA Astrophysics Data System1941JRASC..35..163P166 Charles Francis Potter

Practically, too, Jesus' contemporaries did not even bother very much with separate hours. They used mostly the third, sixth and ninth hours, meaning mid-forenoon, noon and mid-afternoon. As a matter of fact, the first, second, fourth, fifth, eighth and 12th hours are never mentioned in the New Testament at all. The 11th hour is referred to twice, but in the same story; and the seventh and tenth hours are mentioned but once each. And in half the places where any hour is mentioned, it is prefaced by the word "about." "About the ninth hour" is a common phrase, and meant evidently "along some time in the afternoon."

The night was divided into watches. In Old Testament times there were three—the evening watch, the middle watch and the morning watch. That usage carried over into the New Testament, but the Roman four-watch night was also coming into use. There is an interesting example in Mark 13: 35, where all four watches are named, "Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning."​

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[precepts]

2 Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 Peter 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

Revelation 6:1-8
First seal - white horse, Matthew 24:5

Second seal - red horse Matthew 24:6

Third seal - black horse Matthew 24:7

Fourth seal - pale horse Matthew 24:8,9

The scoffers say we have always had wars and rumors of war, nations against nations, pestilences, and earth quakes and they are right about that, but do not see the greater sign even here in America that all these things are on a greater scale worldwide and not centrally located anymore. The increase is the beginning of sorrows spoken of in Matthew 24:1-13 and Rev Chapter six as I believe we are into the first six seals with the seventh seal getting closer that begins the seven trumpets sounding. Maybe in our life time or not, it is still coming and now is the time to be prepared for the return of the Lord.

They do not see that of antichrist who will promise peace and show great wonders in the sky that could even deceive the very elect if possible as this false prophet will show that of Christ coming in the air and many will see this false christ and take the mark of this beast, bowing down and worship the beast, Revelation chapter 13.

Revelation 6:1-8:

And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

White horse represents a rider with great power and authority as in early wars where Generals would always ride a white horse as they went forth conquering and to conquer. The rider of this white horse is a false Christ: Matthew 24:5, 24; Revelation 19:11-15.

And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

Red horse symbolizes Global war bringing much bloodshed to the land. The rider on the red horse takes peace from the earth and they should kill one another and there was given unto him a great sword: Matthew 24:6-10; Revelation 19:15

And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Black horse is a symbol of famine as the rider holds a pair of balances in his hands causing much famine which follows after wars. Many will not be able to afford a days wage in order to feed for their families. Instead of coming to God they reach out to the beast out of the earth as they receive the mark of this beast, Rev 13; 1 Kings 8:37-43; Romans 8:34.

And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Pale horse is a symbol of sickness and disease that follows after war that causes great famine in the world as many become sick and weak from dehydration and malnutrition and eventually die.

The pale horse riders name is Death. Following Death is Hell which means one that is laid in a grave after they have physically died as you can read in Strong’s Exhausted Concordance Hebrew #7585 – Greek # 86. Death is not a final destination, but a state of being until Christ returns and all, saint and sinner, will hear the voice of Christ to raise from their graves as some will raise to eternal life and some to eternal damnation, John 5:28, 29, Revelation 20:11-15.

Where do you people get this information from? Nothing you've posted here can be proven in a court of law because you're speculating! You're doing more of a disservice to the Christian doctrine than service.

 

[Dave Watchman]

I remember you from somewhere.

You crack me up.

Those one liners sound like Don Rickles Eschatology.

"When will you people ever learn?

I would rather let my reasonableness be known to all men, in case the Lord IS at hand.

Where do you people get this information from?

Me and two other guys figured it out on another forum in the summer of 2015.

The USA turned out to be the "Holy place", a place prepared by God, that came to the help of the Woman after the 1260 years of Pay Pal Persecution came to an end after the Foxe book days. (Let The Reader Understand)

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Nothing you've posted here can be proven in a court of law because you're speculating!

Am I arrested?

I'll get you to be my Lawyer, my Law man.

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It might be more, a bit more, than pure speculation.

This makes three sets of triple sevens associated with the Revelation 12 sign.

777 from the last moon of the tetrad, until the Jupiter Venus conjunction.

777 from when Jupiter first entered the Virgo boundary line, until the "darkened sun in January.

And now 777 from the sign itself, until November 8.

November 8 is seven days before the 15th, or Cheshvan 17, where some calendars say the rain began in Noah's day.

Sunday, November 15, 2020 / Cheshvan 28, 5781 - Jewish Calendar - Hebrew Calendar

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You're doing more of a disservice to the Christian doctrine than service.

Maybe.

But I'll take one for the Team, for the sake of the Elect.

And you can look at it like an amended view on Pascal's wager. If I am right and it's happening now, you have much to lose, and everything to gain.

If you are on the 2026, 2029 or 2036 team who are waiting to see a new temple built in Jerusalem and Hal Lindsey's Antichrist dressed in a polyester business suit to be seen in an interview on Fox News, then you might be in for a surprise.

Like on the day that Lot left out from Sodom.

 

[precepts]

I remember you from somewhere.

You crack me up.

Those one liners sound like Don Rickles Eschatology.

"When will you people ever learn?

I would rather let my reasonableness be known to all men, in case the Lord IS at hand.



Me and two other guys figured it out on another forum in the summer of 2015.

The USA turned out to be the "Holy place", a place prepared by God, that came to the help of the Woman after the 1260 years of Pay Pal Persecution came to an end after the Foxe book days. (Let The Reader Understand)

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Am I arrested?

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It might be more, a bit more, than pure speculation.

This makes three sets of triple sevens associated with the Revelation 12 sign.

777 from the last moon of the tetrad, until the Jupiter Venus conjunction.

777 from when Jupiter first entered the Virgo boundary line, until the "darkened sun in January.

And now 777 from the sign itself, until November 8.

November 8 is seven days before the 15th, or Cheshvan 17, where some calendars say the rain began in Noah's day.

Sunday, November 15, 2020 / Cheshvan 28, 5781 - Jewish Calendar - Hebrew Calendar

www.chabad.org

Maybe.

But I'll take one for the Team, for the sake of the Elect.

And you can look at it like an amended view on Pascal's wager. If I am right and it's happening now, you have much to lose, and everything to gain.

If you are on the 2026, 2029 or 2036 team who are waiting to see a new temple built in Jerusalem and Hal Lindsey's Antichrist dressed in a polyester business suit to be seen in an interview on Fox News, then you might be in for a surprise.

Like on the day that Lot left out from Sodom.

Talk about going off topic.

I've learned my lesson with individuals like you.

That's why I don't argue anymore. I just simply state the fact and take my blows. I know the wise will understand.

And, btw, check out my new thread, "The Robbers of Israel,"since you think you know everything about me.

Let's see if you've pinned the tail on the donkey in this thread.

 

[for_his_glory]

I still think that it's happening right now. For the sake of the elect. The Calvinists have this part covered somewhere in their Westminster Confession of Faith when they talk about the elect infantry, or the infantry of the elect.

The Devil has been able to push the timing of this further out into the future, working through the composite beast, by popularizing abortion around the world. He's doing a similar thing to what he was doing when Jesus was a baby, the slaughter of the innocents.

I think we are into all seven seals, but they are not what the prophecy expositors have always told us they would be. I think most of Revelation is happening now, like a tribulum of the Matrix. People are walking around like things are normal. but they're not.

The opening of the seventh, in the midst of the sixth, has put us into lock-down mode. Freeze frame mode. Suspended animation. However you want to describe it. Heaven has gone silent. The prophetic voice has gone silent, for about the space of half an hour. Half a "hora". Where the half an hour, half a "hora", means a time, a season or half a year.

While we wait for our brothers and fellow servants to enter the world. Jesus will not lose any that the Father gives Him. But this is one specification that only the Father knows, no man can know, not even the angels of heaven.

​

Time in Bible Times​

By Charles Francis Potter​

​

The word "hour" comes from the Greek word "hora." The "Horae" were the three mythological goddesses of the seasons— spring, summer and winter. This was before autumn was recognized as a season. Their names were Eunomia, Dike and Eirene, meaning Good Order, Justice and Peace, guardians of the orderly succession of the processes of nature.​

​

"Hora" therefore meant "season" in a very general sense, almost synonymous with "a time." It was simply a measurable lapse of time with a beginning and an end, but with no uniform length of duration. That ancient Greek meaning of the word persisted into New Testament times even after "hora" came to be used also to mean a division of the day. Consequently, when the translators came across the word "hora," they found it very difficult to deter- mine what English word to use.​

​

Several times they translated "hora" as "day" ; several other times they rendered it "season," and they were correct in so doing. But in some verses where "hora" should have been translated "moment" or "instant," they rendered it "hour."​

Even in the many places in the New Testament where the word "hora" is used to indicate a period of time somewhat corresponding to our modern hour, it should be understood by the Bible reader that the New Testament hour varied greatly in length.​

​

There were astronomers then, to be sure, who had carefully worked out the exact length of the day from their observation of the stars and the equinoxes, and had divided the day into 24 equal parts or hours, like the ones we use today. These they measured by a clever mechanical device which they called the clepsydra, literally the water-stealer, a primitive forerunner of the clock.​

​

But the common people of New Testament times, in their homes and in business, knew nothing of the day of 24 equal hours. To them the day was the period between sunrise and sunset, and that was divided into 12 equal parts called hours. Of course, the hours were therefore much longer in summer than in winter. In mid- winter their hour was equal to only three-fourths of one of our hours and in midsummer was as long as our hour and a quarter. But in their leisurely method of living, they did not worry about such small matters.​

​

© The Royal Astronomical Society of Canada • Provided by the NASA Astrophysics Data System1941JRASC..35..163P166 Charles Francis Potter​

​

Practically, too, Jesus' contemporaries did not even bother very much with separate hours. They used mostly the third, sixth and ninth hours, meaning mid-forenoon, noon and mid-afternoon. As a matter of fact, the first, second, fourth, fifth, eighth and 12th hours are never mentioned in the New Testament at all. The 11th hour is referred to twice, but in the same story; and the seventh and tenth hours are mentioned but once each. And in half the places where any hour is mentioned, it is prefaced by the word "about." "About the ninth hour" is a common phrase, and meant evidently "along some time in the afternoon."​

​

The night was divided into watches. In Old Testament times there were three—the evening watch, the middle watch and the morning watch. That usage carried over into the New Testament, but the Roman four-watch night was also coming into use. There is an interesting example in Mark 13: 35, where all four watches are named, "Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning."​

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All we have to do is look out into the world to see what these four riders and their horses bring forth is ever increasing from the day Jesus spoke of these things in Matthew 24.

I have no idea what the Calvinist teach, but only what God's word teaches us. Satan can't do anything with pushing any timing as everything is in God's timing as even Satan like all of us are under that of what God will allow and not allow yet to be. I don't go by all those prophecy expositors of what they teach, but only go by what is already written in scripture from Genesis to Revelation comparing scripture with scripture, OT to NT.

I don't see the seventh seal being opened in the midst of the sixth seal, but in succession of it as the sixth seal is in preparation for the seventh to be opened that leads into the first trumpet sounding.

Rev 8:1-4 The reason there was silence in heaven for about a half hour was God was silent for a short time while the angels were preparing for the seventh seal to be opened. First, seven angels are given their trumpets as each one would be sounded in Gods timing. Then John sees an angel with a golden censer and this angel is given much incense to burn before the altar of God as it sends up a sweet aroma to him. The sweet aroma is all the saints under the altar and all around the world worshiping and praising God’s name as they send up their prayers before Him.

 

[for_his_glory]

Where do you people get this information from? Nothing you've posted here can be proven in a court of law because you're speculating! You're doing more of a disservice to the Christian doctrine than service.

If you notice my sources are from scripture. What does a court of law have to do with anything. Was it not a court of law that refused the teachings of Christ and crucified Him!

Instead of judging me, why not share your understanding of the seven seals. In these forums we walk in unity of love towards one another as no one is judged for what or how they believe as these are discussions and not a debate of who is right or who is wrong. I would like to hear your take on the seven seals and your source of how you believe.

 

[for_his_glory]

I remember you from somewhere.

You crack me up.

Those one liners sound like Don Rickles Eschatology.

"When will you people ever learn?

I would rather let my reasonableness be known to all men, in case the Lord IS at hand.



Me and two other guys figured it out on another forum in the summer of 2015.

The USA turned out to be the "Holy place", a place prepared by God, that came to the help of the Woman after the 1260 years of Pay Pal Persecution came to an end after the Foxe book days. (Let The Reader Understand)

Calculate Duration Between Two Dates – Results

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Am I arrested?

I'll get you to be my Lawyer, my Law man.

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It might be more, a bit more, than pure speculation.

This makes three sets of triple sevens associated with the Revelation 12 sign.

777 from the last moon of the tetrad, until the Jupiter Venus conjunction.

777 from when Jupiter first entered the Virgo boundary line, until the "darkened sun in January.

And now 777 from the sign itself, until November 8.

November 8 is seven days before the 15th, or Cheshvan 17, where some calendars say the rain began in Noah's day.

Sunday, November 15, 2020 / Cheshvan 28, 5781 - Jewish Calendar - Hebrew Calendar

www.chabad.org

Maybe.

But I'll take one for the Team, for the sake of the Elect.

And you can look at it like an amended view on Pascal's wager. If I am right and it's happening now, you have much to lose, and everything to gain.

If you are on the 2026, 2029 or 2036 team who are waiting to see a new temple built in Jerusalem and Hal Lindsey's Antichrist dressed in a polyester business suit to be seen in an interview on Fox News, then you might be in for a surprise.

Like on the day that Lot left out from Sodom.

What does any of this have to do with Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy and how does this line up with scripture? This needs to be another topic as we are only discussing the first four seals, but will allow all seven seals to be discussed before the first trumpet sounding.

 

[precepts]

If you notice my sources are from scripture. What does a court of law have to do with anything. Was it not a court of law that refused the teachings of Christ and crucified Him!

Instead of judging me, why not share your understanding of the seven seals. In these forums we walk in unity of love towards one another as no one is judged for what or how they believe as these are discussions and not a debate of who is right or who is wrong. I would like to hear your take on the seven seals and your source of how you believe.

I have to judge you because you're speculating. You can't prove an iota of anything you're saying. And where are the sources from scripture?

 

[for_his_glory]

Talk about going off topic.

I've learned my lesson with individuals like you.

That's why I don't argue anymore. I just simply state the fact and take my blows. I know the wise will understand.

And, btw, check out my new thread, "The Robbers of Israel,"since you think you know everything about me.

Let's see if you've pinned the tail on the donkey in this thread.

We do not allow arguing, or demeaning another member for what they believe. There is nothing wrong with a healthy debate as long as it is done in respect for each others thoughts and ideas as sources need to be given in each topic. You are walking a fine line of coming against ToS 1.1 and 1.3 as this will not be tolerated. I do not wish to ban you from this thread, but would rather you discuss your beliefs on this topic.

Ne need to reply to this as I am only reminding you of the ToS you agreed with when you became a member.

 

[for_his_glory]

I have to judge you because you're speculating. You can't prove an iota of anything you're saying. And where are the sources from scripture?

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

There is no speculation within what I believe to be true according to the scriptures that are my source. If you do not agree with what I believe that is fine as I ask no one to agree with me, but to take the scriptures I give and study them for them self. All I hear is condemnation coming from you and nothing of what you believe the seals mean. Again, my source is from scripture.

 

[precepts]

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

There is no speculation within what I believe to be true according to the scriptures that are my source. If you do not agree with what I believe that is fine as I ask no one to agree with me, but to take the scriptures I give and study them for them self. All I hear is condemnation coming from you and nothing of what you believe the seals mean. Again, my source is from scripture.

Your conclusions on the color of the horsemen' horses is unscripted. For example: "The pair of scales means famine..." is speculation. Come on, man.

 

[for_his_glory]

Your conclusions on the color of the horsemen' horses is unscripted. For example: "The pair of scales means famine..." is speculation. Come on, man.

Please share your take on this and share your resources as this is how we interact with each other in discussions here at CF. I would like to hear your take on this.

Famine that continues to get worse in the world as even know we can see it in many countries. Many do not even have a penny for wheat and barley and when the son of perdition comes promising provisions, peace and safety pretending he is Christ by lying signs and wonders they will crawl on hands and knees if need be to reach out to the beast out of the earth (son of perdition) and take all he will offer. It takes the full of scripture in the OT and NT to understand that of Revelations and the visions that John was given.

 

[for_his_glory]

Your conclusions on the color of the horsemen' horses is unscripted. For example: "The pair of scales means famine..." is speculation. Come on, man.

Your conclusions on the color of the horsemen' horses is unscripted

The color of each horse is scripted if you read Rev 6:1-8 as they are white, red, black and pale.

 

[precepts]

The color of each horse is scripted if you read Rev 6:1-8 as they are white, red, black and pale.

And who doesn't know that?

 

[for_his_glory]

And who doesn't know that?

It was you that said the color of the horses where not scripted. What then did you mean by that?

 

[precepts]

It was you that said the color of the horses where not scripted. What then did you mean by that?

I quoted you! "The pair of scales means famine," which is unscripted.

 

[for_his_glory]

I quoted you! "The pair of scales means famine," which is unscripted.

It is scripted when you understand what Jesus said in Matthew 24 which I already gave reference to in my OP.

 

[precepts]

It is scripted when you understand what Jesus said in Matthew 24 which I already gave reference to in my OP.

There's no connection between Matthew 24's mentioning of a famine and the scales other than your speculation that the scales represent famine. Nothing!

And nowhere in the scriptures does it say scales represent famine, which means you're adding to the scriptures - which, in my eyes, is a grave sin.

 

[for_his_glory]

Black horse is a symbol of famine as the rider holds a pair of balances in his hands causing much famine in the world as many will not be able to afford to buy food and eventually starve to death unless they reach out to the beast out of the earth, Rev 13; 1 Kings 8:37-43; Romans 8:34.

John hears a voice that comes out of the midst of the four creatures in heaven describing what it will take to be able to buy a measure of food as many will not be able to afford a days wage in order to feed for their families unless they prepare ahead of time. God is speaking to us to be prepared for when this time of sorrow is increased during the end of days that we put God first before all things as God will supply our need, Philippians 4:19; 1 Kings Chapter 17.

Famine always follows after conquest of war when a Nation or a people is conquered and overtaken by a governed ruling power that follows after the ways of Balaam forsaking that of the way of the Lord and love the wages of unrighteousness, 2 Peter 2:15; Ezekiel 14:13 as we will see in a New World Order and it’s one world government that is even now being set up. The spoils of conquest and conquering often denotes possession of another’s property by looting and stealing causing one to be left with absolutely nothing. This is what this corrupt government will do as they will take out of the hands of the people what they need the most to sustain life.

The rider on this black horse is an antichrist governing authority revived from the old Babylonian nation that places great economic stumbling blocks in the economy. They will control all shipping, trading and distribution of merchandise around the world expediting exuberant prices on everything causing great economic disaster to the middle and lower class of people.

We rely on farmers for most of our food and truckers to deliver that food to market. When prices escalate, especially with fuel, this shuts down our source of food as the farmers will no longer be able to produce the food we need and the truckers will no longer be able to afford fuel to deliver food to market.

A penny for a quart of wheat and three quarts of barley is symbolic of what would be a days wage for many people in order to feed their families. With the economy crumbling many businesses will be forced into bankruptcy causing massive unemployment. Without jobs this will cause great famine to every family that will not be able to afford food. This is why it is so imperative to have faith and trust in the Lord who will provide during times of famine, 1 Kings Chapter 17, Philippians 4:19.

The oil and wine is not to be harmed as many true Christians that are monetarily rich at this time will be able to afford to buy and share with those who have not as God will use them to supply others needs during this time of great famine, Matthew 25:35; Philippians 4:19.