Revelation 6: The Four Horsemen and the Seven Seals

[JohnDB]

This world is sick.The whole system, the whole world, is buy and sell. The only thing in this world is buy and sell, that's all this world is about, nothing more. Absolutely everything revolves around buy and sell.

Abraham did pretty well doing that.
The trouble comes about when we want more than what we should have. Wanting more is what got Adam and Eve tossed out of the Garden. It's the beginning of every war...it's the cause of death...and sold on every commercial.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

This world is sick.The whole system, the whole world, is buy and sell. The only thing in this world is buy and sell, that's all this world is about, nothing more. Absolutely everything revolves around buy and sell.

I like that avatar.
I'll buy it.

 

[Sinthesis]

This world is sick.The whole system, the whole world, is buy and sell. The only thing in this world is buy and sell, that's all this world is about, nothing more. Absolutely everything revolves around buy and sell.

You're such a judgmental pessimist. To buy and sell aren't inherently bad.

1Co 6:19 - What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co 6:20 - For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
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I also happen to see plenty of charity in our world.

 

[Sinthesis]

Black horse is a symbol of famine as the rider holds a pair of balances in his hands causing much famine in the world as many will not be able buy food and eventually starve to death, 1 Kings 8:37-43; Romans 8:34.

John hears a voice that comes out of the midst of the four creatures in heaven describing what it will take to be able to buy a measure of food as many will not be able to afford a days wage in order to feed for their families unless they prepare ahead of time. God is speaking to us to be prepared for when this time of sorrow is increased during the end of days that we put God first before all things as God will supply our need, Philippians 4:19; 1 Kings Chapter 17.

The rider on this black horse is an antichrist governing authority revived from the old Babylonian nation that places great economic stumbling blocks in the economy. They will control all shipping, trading and distribution of merchandise around the world expediting exuberant prices on everything causing great economic disaster to the lower class of people.

Rev 6:5 ¶ And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Rev 6:6 - And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.​

By definition this passage is not describing famine. If your daily nutritional needs can be met through a day's work, or even with just a third of a day's work, then you're not starving.

It can be difficult to accurately interpret the bible through first-world eyes. Throughout most of our history civilization has been built on subsistence agriculture. Ironically, it was the application of 'buying and selling' to agriculture which allowed first-world economies to break the grip of recurring famines.

 

[for_his_glory]

Rev 6:5 ¶ And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Rev 6:6 - And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.​

By definition this passage is not describing famine. If your daily nutritional needs can be met through a day's work, or even with just a third of a day's work, then you're not starving.

It can be difficult to accurately interpret the bible through first-world eyes. Throughout most of our history civilization has been built on subsistence agriculture. Ironically, it was the application of 'buying and selling' to agriculture which allowed first-world economies to break the grip of recurring famines.

Famine as in not being able to afford food with a days wage is what I was trying to emphasis when this new world order comes into effect and takes control of everthing

 

[Sinthesis]

Rev 6:5 ¶ And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Rev 6:6 - And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.​

Famine as in not being able to afford food with a days wage is what I was trying to emphasis when this new world order comes into effect and takes control of everthing

Right, but your interpretation is based on a presupposition about some new world order instead of the actual words which state that people will be able to afford a days food (or even three days food) with a days wage.

 

[Corn Pop]

You're such a judgmental pessimist. To buy and sell aren't inherently bad.

1Co 6:19 - What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co 6:20 - For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
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I also happen to see plenty of charity in our world.

I never said buy and sell was bad, I said all the world revolves around is buy and sell.

The world has forsaken the Most High.

There is nothing more than buy and sell in this world and its the biggest distraction between man and The Most High and his anointed Christ.

 

[Corn Pop]

I like that avatar.
I'll buy it.

If you can guess what it is I will let you use it for free.

I can't sue you yet on the other side of the world for just using or claiming my avatar, the globalist TPP agenda has not yet been confirmed, otherwise as much as I like you, I will take you for everything you got, but we can can negotiate here.

 

[for_his_glory]

Rev 6:5 ¶ And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Rev 6:6 - And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.​

Right, but your interpretation is based on a presupposition about some new world order instead of the actual words which state that people will be able to afford a days food (or even three days food) with a days wage.

It's not my interpretation as it is what scriptures teach us about the beast out of the sea and the beast out of the earth in Rev 13.

The rider on this black horse is an antichrist governing authority revived from the old Babylonian nation that places great economic stumbling blocks in the economy. They will control all shipping, trading and distribution of merchandise around the world expediting exuberant prices on everything causing great economic disaster to the middle and lower class of people.

We rely on farmers for most of our food and truckers to deliver that food to market. When prices escalate, especially with fuel, this shuts down our source of food as the farmers will no longer be able to produce the food we need and the truckers will no longer be able to afford fuel to deliver food to market.

A penny for a quart of wheat and three quarts of barley is symbolic of what would be a days wage for many people in order to feed their families. With the economy crumbling many businesses will be forced into bankruptcy causing massive unemployment. Without jobs this will cause great famine to every family that will not be able to afford food. This is why it is so imperative to have faith and trust in the Lord who will provide during times of famine, 1 Kings Chapter 17, Philippians 4:19.

 

[for_his_glory]

Is the horse color important?

If the colors were not important then I am sure they would not be mentioned. I believe the colors are symbolic as well as the riders.

 

[Sinthesis]

It's not my interpretation as it is what scriptures teach us about the beast out of the sea and the beast out of the earth in Rev 13.

Then whose interpretation is it? Because it's not what scriptures teach about the third horseman.

If the colors were not important then I am sure they would not be mentioned. I believe the colors are symbolic as well as the riders.

What is your understanding of the symbolism of the colors?

 

[Sinthesis]

I understand the colors of the four horses of Rev 6 as corresponding to the colors of a dove, fire (or perhaps man), the raven, and a corpse.