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[jasoncran]

uh, no you have never defined the nature of the messiah only quoted the verses that only support the idea of the anti-christ.

the muslims dont believe in the messiah, because they deny his ressurection, he had to die. and be raised again.

so did he die and come back to life? or not.

to the muslim they deny the very christ that we preach, for he had to die on the cross. they dont believe that. so what was he and what is he to you?

answer this one

 

[Shilohsfoal]

uh, no you have never defined the nature of the messiah only quoted the verses that only support the idea of the anti-christ.

the muslims dont believe in the messiah, because they deny his ressurection, he had to die. and be raised again.

so did he die and come back to life? or not.

to the muslim they deny the very christ that we preach, for he had to die on the cross. they dont believe that. so what was he and what is he to you?

answer this one

John didnt say antichrist denys the resurrection.
John said antichrist denys Christ has come.

Obviously ,you didnt pay any attention to that same verse I quoted over and over.

 

[jasoncran]

uh, no you have never defined the nature of the messiah only quoted the verses that only support the idea of the anti-christ.

the muslims dont believe in the messiah, because they deny his ressurection, he had to die. and be raised again.

so did he die and come back to life? or not.

to the muslim they deny the very christ that we preach, for he had to die on the cross. they dont believe that. so what was he and what is he to you?

answer this one

John didnt say antichrist denys the resurrection.
John said antichrist denys Christ has come.

Obviously ,you didnt pay any attention to that same verse I quoted over and over.

so i'm ok if call satan the messiah?

 

[Vic C.]

Ok people, time out! Lets stop insulting each other and lets not simply point out the typos of other posters... lets concentrate of pointing what we believe to be right or wrong about this specific interpretation.

Extremely convoluted. Revelation is a book which describes the end times - the final seven year wrath of God period which culminates with satan's destruction.

John

I used to be a full futurist, but I am no longer. Even when I was or if I still was, I could never understand how anyone could call the last seven years of this futurist's position, seven years of God's wrath?

God allows tribulation to happen and it all works out to and for His glory. But to say He is the actual cause of this tribulation, and to attribute it to be a part of His wrath isn't even scriptural.

 

[Elijah674]

shiloh please show us some verse in the book of ezekiel or in the ot that says the lord wont return to gather isreal and be with his people.

Hi it has always ended with just a remnant of Israel being faithful. Isa. 5:1-9 is one good explaination. (and compare John 12:42-43 for another when Christ did come) And Matt. 10:5-6 finds a verse 15! This was Old Israel leaving only a 'Remnant' starting up with the Acts Church. They SPLIT! This was their SHAKING! [MIDNIGHT CRY] This was Old Israel FALLING AWAY! She [Stayed put] & the Remnant [FOLLOWED CHRIST OUT]. Matt. 25 & the [door was shut] ibid. 10.

What finds folks today confused, is the LAND WAS A PROMISED PLACE! It could not sin & be taken away. And, it will be the home of New Jerusalem when the New Earth.. after the 1000 years is recreated. This has the Rev. 17:1-5 + ones looking for some great thing to happen in Israel. And it will, for satan will use it to finish his work up, no doubt!?

--Elijah

 

[jasoncran]

the jewish nation that survives the tribulation ,and is delivered are the fulfilled jews, the days of the ot sacrifices are over, these jews accept the messiah, and are allowed to dwell in that land.

 

[Sinthesis]

the jewish nation that survives the tribulation ,and is delivered are the fulfilled jews, the days of the ot sacrifices are over, these jews accept the messiah, and are allowed to dwell in that land.

I'm thinking this:
The Jewish nation that survives the tribulation, and is delivered are the fulfilled Jews, the days of the OT sacrifices are over, these Jews reject the Messiah, but accept the Holy Ghost, and are allowed to dwell in that land.

 

[jasoncran]

the jewish nation that survives the tribulation ,and is delivered are the fulfilled jews, the days of the ot sacrifices are over, these jews accept the messiah, and are allowed to dwell in that land.

I'm thinking this:
The Jewish nation that survives the tribulation, and is delivered are the fulfilled Jews, the days of the OT sacrifices are over, these Jews reject the Messiah, but accept the Holy Ghost, and are allowed to dwell in that land.

they shall look upon him whom they have pierced, and weep and mourn for a lost brother.