Right to stop and terminate false doctrines

[Classik]

I just ask myself, why can't we as Christians boldly stand up against false teachings and teachers, not just by mere verbal attack or digital criticism, but by also closing up such churches? Would that be to be an extremist?

Maybe it is only possible when Christ would rule the earth

 

[evenifigoalone]

That's rather dangerous territory. Separation of church and state exists for a reason. From an objective standpoint, why should one sect of Christianity rule over another? How can the rest of the world be certain that X is right over Y and therefore has the right to terminate Y?
I don't think we can determine it with our finite minds and limited understanding. We have the right to speak out against something, but not to force it on them.

 

[Knotical]

I don't think Classik is talking about the government (local, state, or federal) shutting down churches that teach false doctrines. It has more to do with we as Christians identifying which sects are teaching false doctrines and working toward shutting down churches that follow those teachings.

This was tried back in the 1800's and even earlier, but I think it would be much harder now, as it would appear to the secular world that the Christian church is looking to tear itself apart. Which is an opportunity they will most certainly take advantage of.

While I agree with the spirit of identifying false teachings/doctrines, I think there are better ways to handle them other that overt actions that would invite attacks from outside the church.

 

[evenifigoalone]

IMO unless they are actually hurting anyone they have the right to practice or believe what they like.

 

[Kenny_ms]

I understand the outrage with false doctrine but to shut it down would be like trying to shut down sin in the world and or any sinful thing we like. Man must be free to sin, at least to a degree, there are laws that protect that right and honestly, I think God himself preserves that right. With our present system, we couldn't even shut down a legally registered say....Church Of Satan, much less someone who might teach false Christian doctrin.

The best one could do is try to convince them the doctrine is false and/or settle with verbal attack or digital criticism.

At least the freedom of speech is protected and it can be pretty effective.

 

[St. Helens]

The best way to kill false teaching is discipleship or winning the severely deceived to Christ. Draw people away from cults. That is how you close the doors of cults.

 

[Knotical]

IMO unless they are actually hurting anyone they have the right to practice or believe what they like.

But that is the whole point of a false doctrine, to mislead, or hurt, those who are looking for the truth.

Although, the Truth can only be imparted by the Holy Spirit, and will never contradict the teachings of the bible. That is really the only test against false teachings/doctrine, if it does not agree with, or contradicts, the bible then it will always mislead.

 

[Kenny_ms]

But that is the whole point of a false doctrine, to mislead, or hurt, those who are looking for the truth.

Id guess Quests point was to physically "hurt" or hurt within the bounds of the law.

One could cuss another out, say all kinds of hurtful things to them and devastate an individual with words and as you mention that is hurtful and can be more hurtful than physical injury but I don't think that's against the law for the most part. Against Gods way, yes but that's the way it is for now.

Seems the worlds laws only cover physical injury like stealing, killing, assault and such but people are still allowed to break your heart as long as they keep their hands off you and yours. It's sad it has to, but makes perfect sense to me that's the way it is and will be until the end of this age.

 

[Deborah13]

But that is the whole point of a false doctrine, to mislead, or hurt, those who are looking for the truth.

Although, the Truth can only be imparted by the Holy Spirit, and will never contradict the teachings of the bible. That is really the only test against false teachings/doctrine, if it does not agree with, or contradicts, the bible then it will always mislead.

What if what they are teaching may endanger our rights to homeschool our children?
The HSLDA, is concerned about it. They are a Christian organization. Michael Farris, who founded the organization in 1983, is very concerned about it. So much so that he wrote a letter, apologizing for not speaking out about them before.

 

[Deborah13]

Seems the worlds laws only cover physical injury like stealing, killing, assault and such

What if what they teachings encourage members to not report physical harm and assault among the members?

 

[Knotical]

What if what they are teaching may endanger our rights to homeschool our children?
The HSLDA, is concerned about it. They are a Christian organization. Michael Farris, who founded the organization in 1983, is very concerned about it. So much so that he wrote a letter, apologizing for not speaking out about them before.

I applaud the efforts of the HSLDA, of which I am a member, and support them in their drive to ensure we have the freedom to homeschool here. They have also gotten involved in helping those from other countries who are being bullied by their own governments about homeschooling.

Sure, there are those Christian organizations that are more liberal than others, who also think it is just fine to have homosexuals as part of their elder board, or even have them as pastors. The only way to combat these false doctrines is to continually share the Truth and hope the Holy Spirit reveals it to those who are being mislead.

 

[Deborah13]

I applaud the efforts of the HSLDA, of which I am a member, and support them in their drive to ensure we have the freedom to homeschool here. They have also gotten involved in helping those from other countries who are being bullied by their own governments about homeschooling.

Sure, there are those Christian organizations that are more liberal than others, who also think it is just fine to have homosexuals as part of their elder board, or even have them as pastors. The only way to combat these false doctrines is to continually share the Truth and hope the Holy Spirit reveals it to those who are being mislead.

It's way worse than homosexuals in the church, Knotical. I know that is hard to believe, what could be worse, right?

 

[Knotical]

It's way worse than homosexuals in the church, Knotical. I know that is hard to believe, what could be worse, right?

Oh, I know that. Gay pastors and elders is just the tip of the iceberg. The problem is that many of the churches that promote such doctrines are considered the "fun" ones, while the denominations that adhere to the "full counsel of God" are looked at as cold and old fashioned.

 

[Kenny_ms]

What if what they teachings encourage members to not report physical harm and assault among the members?

Speak out against it, it's all you can do unless you can find some legal means to fight it. But as long as it remains just talk, likely all you can to is counter it with talk, just make your talk more convincing and if it's concieved of a higher power, it may well be..

 

[Deborah13]

The problem is that many of the churches that promote such doctrines are considered the "fun" ones,

Believe me there is nothing 'fun' involved in the teachings that the HSLDA, is concerned about. They are very strict, they are not a church, as we would define a church, were people fellowship together with the leadership and leadership is held accountable for their teachings.

 

[Deborah13]

Speak out against it, it's all you can do unless you can find some legal means to fight it. But as long as it remains just talk, likely all you can to is counter it with talk, just make your talk more convincing and if it's concieved of a higher power, it may well be..

People have been speaking out. Maybe the Lord has stepped in.....because it's beginning to be revealed. I'm just watching and praying.

 

[Classik]

Probably the WBC would one day be shut down

 

[Deborah13]

Probably the WBC would one day be shut down

It's too internationally popular by so many. Probably one of the last things to go, like American football.

 

[Classik]

hehehehehehe

 

[Classik]

It's too internationally popular by so many. Probably one of the last things to go, like American football.

Voice of peace was not heard...perhaps that of a lion may be heard: the wbc