Bible Study Romans 6:23 contrasted with 1 John 5:16-17

[jocor]

jocor
I’ve got serious reservations on your analogy of a sin unto death of a believer being something of permanent separation with God, such as the unforgivable sin of no repentance to those that partook of all the miracles of the Holy Spirit, heard the word of God, and then turned back short of eternal life. (Heb 6:6)
There is but one way to our Father and that is through Jesus Christ. (Act 4:12)

Yes, Yeshua is the ONLY way to the Father. When you renounce him, you no longer have him. You willfully shut the "door" (Yeshua) to the Father and chose another way. The door to salvation cannot be reopened to such a person unless I am misunderstanding what "it is impossible ... to renew them again unto repentance" means.

Now I’ll present three such incidents of scripture I believe to be the sin into death, and a fourth that could have been.
Ananias lying to the Holy Spirit. (Act 5:4)
Sapphira tempting the Holy Spirit. (Act 5:9)

Those may be sins unto death as well.

Moses’ unbelief. (Num 20:12) Your thought of condemnation of the one not believing has to be seen in the appearance of Moses with Elias on the mount of transfiguration. (Mat 17:2-3)
(Deut 32:51) die in the mount whither thou goest up, and be gathered unto thy people; as Aaron thy brother died in mount Hor, and was gathered unto his people:
(Deut 32:51) Because ye trespassed against me among the children of Israel at the waters of Meribah-Kadesh, in the wilderness of Zin; because ye sanctified me not in the midst of the children of Israel.

You cannot use Moses as an example because he did not have Yeshua (the New Covenant "way").

The fourth would have been shown us in:
1 Cor 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
1 Cor 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh . . .
But then here the man evidently repented, and Paul showed grace.
2 Cor 2:6 Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many.
2 Cor 2:7 So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.
2 Cor 2:8 Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.[/QUOTE]
The man in 1 Cor 5 did not die. Therefore, it could not have been a sin unto death.