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Sabbath is a Sign Between God and Israel - WHO IS ISRAEL?

Pipiripi said:
Who or what is the Holy Spirit for you? Who is the Comforter? An other being of what? You are my teacher now. Please answered my questions BIBLICAL with chapters and verses.
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Jesus was speaking of the Fathers promise the gift of God.
The Spirit the only true God states is His own.
"'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.

And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear

Clearly the Spirit of my heavenly Father who is sent through Jesus and in His name.

Now when do you state Jesus was begotten?
 
Randy said:
Jesus was speaking of the Fathers promise the gift of God.
The Spirit the only true God states is His own.
"'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.

And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear

Clearly the Spirit of my heavenly Father who is sent through Jesus and in His name.

Now when do you state Jesus was begotten?
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I have asked for the chapters and the verses. I believe only in the writings of the Bible. What is the name of the Comforter? Who is he? I will read it in the Bible. Teach me with evidence please my teacher.
 
Pipiripi said:
I have asked for the chapters and the verses. I believe only in the writings of the Bible. What is the name of the Comforter? Who is he? I will read it in the Bible. Teach me with evidence please my teacher.
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Sorry to disappoint you but I am not your Rabbi. If you claim to know what you think you know then should have recognized the scriptures I gave you.
This conversation is at a end.
 
Randy said:
Sorry to disappoint you but I am not your Rabbi. If you claim to know what you think you know then should have recognized the scriptures I gave you.
This conversation is at a end.
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Oh! Sorry, anyway thanks for the answer. I love you! Bless
 
Hopeful said:
Really !
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That is the reasonable conclusion from your writting on 1john1 and the unwarranted splitting of the letter between Christian and non Christian to read that Christians do not sin, sadly they do, to mean as a Christian you do not sin.



If that is not how you are understanding it please explain.
 
Pipiripi said:
YES! THE SABBATH IS A SIGN BETWEEN GOD AND ISRAEL, BUT DIDN'T YOU KNOW THAT ALL WHO ARE IN CHRIST BECOME PART OF ISRAEL?
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Pipiripi
ABSOLUTELY !!
And may I add - If you go back in your bible to Exodus 31:12-18, that in verses 16 and 17 it says, (16) "So the sons of Israel shall observe the Sabbath to celebrate the Sabbath throughout their generations as a PERPETUAL COVENANT" ( MEANING FOREVER), (17) It is a sign between Me and the sons of israel >"FOREVER"<!!! (NEVER ENDING).

So why would gentile Christians care about Jews honoring the Sabbath forever or care about a COVENANT agreement of being GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE??

Follow me here.
In Romans 11: 11-24 Paul compares Israel to the "NATURAL OLIVE BRANCHES" of a cultivated or natural olive tree (Gods kingdom), and the gentile believers are compared to the branches of a WILD OLIVE TREE (Worthless and good for nothing).
The NATURAL BRANCHES (Israel) were broken off (From the Kingdom of God - The olive tree) because they rejected Christ as their Savior, and the WILD OLIVE BRANCHES (Gentile believers))were GRAFTED in to the NATURAL OLIVE TREE (Gods kingdom), where they are nourished spiritually by the "ROOT OF JESSE" (Jesus Christ).

In doing so, being grafted in, then the gentile believers have been made partakers of the SABBATH COVENANT, along with the Israelite nation when God calls them back as Christ believers, and after that occurs, has grafted them back in to the NATURAL OLIVE TREE with the gentile believers, then the 2 of them together enter into that CHOSEN RELATIONSHIP with God together, and BOTH share in the COVENANT of honoring the SABBATH together, as a COLLECTIVE of ONE new complete body in Christ, as God has planned from the beginning - Ephesians 2:11-22.

As gentile believers becoming one with the original CHOSEN by God, the Israelites, as His Chosen people, we the gentile believers, who are also CHOSEN by God to be HIS at our conversion, are included as Gods CHOSEN with the Israelite believers in Christ as one NEW complete body of believers - Ephesians 2:14, and as such are under the original agreement of OBSERVING THE SABBATH FOREVER - EXODUS 31:17 together under the SABBATH COVENANT that the Israelites agreed to - Exodus 19:8, as the condition of becoming Gods CHOSEN at the base of Mt. Siani.

This is another validation that all believers who are grafted in to the Natural olive tree are to honor the Sabbath FOREVER - Exodus 31:18.

Gods final comment on this is in Exodus 31:14-15, where God says, "anyone who PROFANES the SABBATH, does any work, twice God says they will be put to death.
Remember this Sabbath is FOREVER, Exodus 31:17
YES - I do honor the Sabbath, and have for 12 years for all the listed reasons above, and because of the 4th commandment, of the 10 commandments, to honor the Sabbath - But that's a topic for another time.

My name is OLIGOS
 
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Seasoned by Grace said:
Pipiripi
ABSOLUTELY !!
And may I add - If you go back in your bible to Exodus 31:12-18, that in verses 16 and 17 it says, (16) "So the sons of Israel shall observe the Sabbath to celebrate the Sabbath throughout their generations as a PERPETUAL COVENANT" ( MEANING FOREVER), (17) It is a sign between Me and the sons of israel >"FOREVER"<!!! (NEVER ENDING).

So why would gentile Christians care about Jews honoring the Sabbath forever or care about a COVENANT agreement of being GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE??

Follow me here.
In Romans 11: 11-24 Paul compares Israel to the "NATURAL OLIVE BRANCHES" of a cultivated or natural olive tree (Gods kingdom), and the gentile believers are compared to the branches of a WILD OLIVE TREE (Worthless and good for nothing).
The NATURAL BRANCHES (Israel) were broken off (From the Kingdom of God - The olive tree) because they rejected Christ as their Savior, and the WILD OLIVE BRANCHES (Gentile believers))were GRAFTED in to the NATURAL OLIVE TREE (Gods kingdom), where they are nourished spiritually by the "ROOT OF JESSE" (Jesus Christ).

In doing so, being grafted in, then the gentile believers have been made partakers of the SABBATH COVENANT, along with the Israelite nation when God calls them back as Christ believers, and after that occurs, has grafted them back in to the NATURAL OLIVE TREE with the gentile believers, then the 2 of them together enter into that CHOSEN RELATIONSHIP with God together, and BOTH share in the COVENANT of honoring the SABBATH together, as a COLLECTIVE of ONE new complete body in Christ, as God has planned from the beginning - Ephesians 2:11-22.

As gentile believers becoming one with the original CHOSEN by God, the Israelites, as His Chosen people, we the gentile believers, who are also CHOSEN by God to be HIS at our conversion, are included as Gods CHOSEN with the Israelite believers in Christ as one NEW complete body of believers - Ephesians 2:14, and as such are under the original agreement of OBSERVING THE SABBATH FOREVER - EXODUS 31:17 together under the SABBATH COVENANT that the Israelites agreed to - Exodus 19:8, as the condition of becoming Gods CHOSEN at the base of Mt. Siani.

This is another validation that all believers who are grafted in to the Natural olive tree are to honor the Sabbath FOREVER.

Gods final comment on this is in Exodus 31:14-15, where God says, "anyone who PROFANES the SABBATH, does any work, twice God says they will be put to death.
Remember this Sabbath is FOREVER, Exodus 31:17
YES - I do honor the Sabbath, and have for 12 years for all the listed reasons above.

My name is OLIGOS
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Thanks to the ALMIGHTY God that you know the truth. My friend with all respect for all believers from another denominations. Can I answered questions BIBLICAL if someone asking me a question? Because my English is very bad and I am not here to hurt feelings. I am here to warning the world about what is going to happen. But I don't know that you can mail me private. I really want to show you why we FEW believe the words of God Biblical.
 
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