Samson and Delilah

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

They died tragic deaths.

They accomplished more in their death than in the days of their lives.

I can't agree that these descriptions fit Jesus. The second one would provide an interesting debate, for sure, but the overall ministry of Christ on Earth required the accomplishments He achieved both alive and through His death. Secondly, the tragedy of His death is debatable, and I'm not sure He would agree with you that it was tragic, because of what it achieved. Ultimately, His death accomplished salvation for man, which could be argued was His greatest achievement, but without what preceded that death through His 33 years on Earth, it would have been nearly meaningless. By that, I mean man would not have recognized that death for what it was without the evidence He provided of who He was before the cross.

 

[farouk]

reba:

Interesting poetry...

 

[reba]

It is a Neil Sedaka song from a about 1960 .... Look it up give, it a listen the tune is hard to get out of ones head....

 

[Classik]

It is a Neil Sedaka song from a about 1960 .... Look it up give, it a listen the tune is hard to get out of ones head....

1960???? When we were in highschool;)

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I can't agree that these descriptions fit Jesus. The second one would provide an interesting debate, for sure, but the overall ministry of Christ on Earth required the accomplishments He achieved both alive and through His death. Secondly, the tragedy of His death is debatable, and I'm not sure He would agree with you that it was tragic, because of what it achieved. Ultimately, His death accomplished salvation for man, which could be argued was His greatest achievement, but without what preceded that death through His 33 years on Earth, it would have been nearly meaningless. By that, I mean man would not have recognized that death for what it was without the evidence He provided of who He was before the cross.

Okay

 

[Lloyd]

I was reading the story of Samson last week actually, and it kinda confused me a bit really. For example, the fact he killed 1000 men at the same time with a donkeys jawbone had me a touch puzzled to say the least. I guess I'm not doubting the bible but a few of the Samson stories had a few head scratches - another was the fact he pushed over a temple with his bare hands.

I realise the Bible is full of things 'not the norm' so to speak, but the Samson story stood out a little to me. What do people think?

 

[reba]

For me It is God's Word.

 

[farouk]

For me It is God's Word.

reba:

Exactly.

One needs to remember that the church is a heavenly people called out of Judaism and Gentiles. Israel was an earthly people, with enemies, surviving in the land.

(I've been reading Uncle C I, evidently. The Scofield notes are helpful about the dispensations.)

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

I was reading the story of Samson last week actually, and it kinda confused me a bit really. For example, the fact he killed 1000 men at the same time with a donkeys jawbone had me a touch puzzled to say the least. I guess I'm not doubting the bible but a few of the Samson stories had a few head scratches - another was the fact he pushed over a temple with his bare hands.

I realise the Bible is full of things 'not the norm' so to speak, but the Samson story stood out a little to me. What do people think?

All things are possible with God. Just because we can't do the things Sampson did ourselves, nor can we necessarily conceive of anyone today being able to do them, that is no indication God did not empower Sampson to do all these things. It has nothing to do with our perceptions, and everything to do with the glory of God.

If it makes it any easier for you, those physical feats weren't common then, either.