[__ Science __ ] Scientific argument for God's existence

[GodsGrace]

Helium flash. When it gets hot enough to fuse the helium in their cores, stars explode.

Do you know who Lawrence Krauss is ?

 

[Michael74]

Do you know who Lawrence Krauss is ?

An atheist with lots of YouTube lectures. He was accused of improper behavior, and denied it.

 

[Barbarian]

I read that if the earth was just a very short distance closer to the sun, it would have been too hot - or just a very short distance farther from the sun and it would have been too cold. As it turns out, it's just right.

Can't remember the distance, but it was really short. If anybody knows it, I'd love to be reminded.

The distance from the Earth to the Sun varies by a bit less than 3.5% over the course of a year. To give you an idea how much difference that makes, in June, the Northern Hemisphere is about 3 million miles farther from the Sun than it is in December.

Inverse square law, and things like that. In June, the Earth gets about 0.9989 times the radiation from the Sun that it gets in December.

If the distance veried by 10%, then it would be about .99 times the energy. That might make a difference...(Barbarian checks)... No, it likely wouldn't matter.

So the "Goldilocks zone" is wider than most people would expect.

 

[GodsGrace]

The distance from the Earth to the Sun varies by a bit less than 3.5% over the course of a year. To give you an idea how much difference that makes, in June, the Northern Hemisphere is about 3 million miles farther from the Sun than it is in December.

Inverse square law, and things like that. In June, the Earth gets about 0.9989 times the radiation from the Sun that it gets in December.

If the distance veried by 10%, then it would be about .99 times the energy. That might make a difference...(Barbarian checks)... No, it likely wouldn't matter.

So the "Goldilocks zone" is wider than most people would expect.

Hey Barb,
I hope you and Mrs. Barbarian are good.

I tend to believe you in all things science....but we can know for sure that the earth was specially made for us.

Now.....for other life in the universe we look for water and oxygen...but ANY life form could exist that may not need either water or oxygen.

Waddaya think?

And do you like James Tour?
I watch him on YouTube.

 

[Michael74]

Now.....for other life in the universe we look for water and oxygen...but ANY life form could exist that may not need either water or oxygen.

Microbes exist that don't need oxygen.

 

[daninthelionsden]

I read that if the earth was just a very short distance closer to the sun, it would have been too hot - or just a very short distance farther from the sun and it would have been too cold. As it turns out, it's just right.

Can't remember the distance, but it was really short. If anybody knows it, I'd love to be reminded.

Yes and I heard our moon must be in its exact orbit else chaos on Earth.

 

[daninthelionsden]

Also, when the Big Bang happened (as in Genesis) the amount of every chemical was exactly right. The force of the explosion should have immediately caused it to implode -- instead it didn't.

I also saw a show with a physicist who said the vast amount of mass formed in the nano-seconds of the initial Big Bang and the physicals laws governing this mass were so complex and almost instantaneous(as if created as spoken) that it is inconceivable that if one saw the data remain an atheist.

 

[Barbarian]

Alas, the big bang theory has been "proven" to be correct and is, today, accepted as common knowledge. Is this good for science?

Nothing in science is "proven." Logical certainty is only possible when we have all the rules in hand. In science, we observe the particulars and infer the rules.

Are they happy the big bang theory has been accepted?

Depends on the scientist. A lot of atheistic scientists, like Fred Hoyle, were outraged by the theory, because it suggested a creator. In fact, Hoyle coined the term "Big Bang" as a pejorative, hoping to discredit the theory (which was proposed by a physicist who was a Catholic priest). That backfired on him.

 

[Barbarian]

Yes and I heard our moon must be in its exact orbit else chaos on Earth.

Actually, the distance of the moon from the Earth has increased a great deal over the ages; because of tidal friction, it continues to move outward.

 

[SkyWriting]

Hi everybody!

As a physiscist, I would like to share what I think is the strongest rational argument for God's existence, i.e. the mathematical representability of the natural laws.

What's more.....why is there no law of life suggesting that like should or would happen at all? What benefit is life to a rock? Or dust.

 

[SkyWriting]

If the universe and mathematical relationships were different, the universe would be uninhabitable by mankind. The universe is fine tuned to make it a suitable home for people.

Just the earth and the thin blue line of air that cling to this one planet.
The rest is nearly infinitely hostile hostile.

 

[Michael74]

Just the earth and the thin blue line of air that cling to this one planet. The rest is nearly infinitely hostile hostile.

Indeed. The rest is just there to help make earth a cozy place.

 

[SkyWriting]

Indeed. The rest is just there to help make earth a cozy place.

I am not a knuckle head going to Mars unless they find an ocean there.

 

[jasonc]

Scientists Just Found a Fascinating Oil-Eating Bacteria in The Ocean's Deepest Trench

We've still got so much of the undersea world to explore, not least the Mariana Trench – the deepest natural trench in the ocean – which goes down 10,994 metres (36,070 feet) in places.

www.google.com

 

[Michael74]

I am not a knuckle head going to Mars unless they find an ocean there.

Doctors keep finding strange medical things in astronauts that have been in space for months on the space station. I can't even imagine what going to Mars for decades would do.

 

[WIP]

Doctors keep finding strange medical things in astronauts that have been in space for months on the space station. I can't even imagine what going to Mars for decades would do.

What kind of strange medical things? Just curious.