Scientific islam

[Ahuli]

Muslims say that one proof the Koran was from allah is because it has scientifically correct info on Embryology before humans found it out for themselves. (How was this tested?) But, all the info in the Koran on Embryology is copied from three sources:

1. The Greek doctor, Galen, who lived about 130 Ad .....

2. The Jewish doctor, Samuel ha-Yehudi, who lived about the same time.

3. And the Greek father of medicine, Hippocrates, who lived about 400 BC.

My question is: considering the fact that all the info in the Koran was already printed by those three doctors, will the muslim retract what's in the koran on Embryology?

If not, will you give one detail shown in the Koran about Embryology that did not already exist or was new?

 

[dignity]

hi everybody

My question is: considering the fact that all the info in the Koran was already printed by those three doctors,

can you prove it please or give your sources

anyway my exemple is the BABY DEVELOPMENT inside the woman body
look at the verse:

"We created man from a quintessence (of clay);
Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (fetus) lump; then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then We developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the noblest of Creators!†(Al-Mumenoon, 12-14)

The key line is "in a place of rest, firmly fixed", which is the point when the sperm and ovum fuse and The ovum attaches to the tube wall.

This process is microscopic, and unobservable. I'd love to see what Galen really said, but there's no way he knew what was happening in the microscopic realm.


now a QUESTION to you. please tell us if the medical part of baby development was copied from three doctors then why only te right part was copied. why didn't the prophet PBUH copied the wrong part.
was prophet a doctor himself . I guess no one will agree he was an illetrate person who neither could write nor could read. And he copied only the correct information from other human sources.
you don't need to be a rocket SCIENTIST to understand what I am saying :D .

 

[Ahuli]

hi everybody

My question is: considering the fact that all the info in the Koran was already printed by those three doctors,

can you prove it please or give your sources

anyway my exemple is the BABY DEVELOPMENT inside the woman body
look at the verse:

"We created man from a quintessence (of clay);
Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (fetus) lump; then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then We developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the noblest of Creators!†(Al-Mumenoon, 12-14)

The key line is "in a place of rest, firmly fixed", which is the point when the sperm and ovum fuse and The ovum attaches to the tube wall.

This process is microscopic, and unobservable. I'd love to see what Galen really said, but there's no way he knew what was happening in the microscopic realm.


now a QUESTION to you. please tell us if the medical part of baby development was copied from three doctors then why only te right part was copied. why didn't the prophet PBUH copied the wrong part.
was prophet a doctor himself . I guess no one will agree he was an illetrate person who neither could write nor could read. And he copied only the correct information from other human sources.
you don't need to be a rocket SCIENTIST to understand what I am saying :D .

Therefore ... what ARE YOU SAYING?

 

[dignity]

hi everybody

My question is: considering the fact that all the info in the Koran was already printed by those three doctors,

can you prove it please or give your sources

anyway my exemple is the BABY DEVELOPMENT inside the woman body
look at the verse:

"We created man from a quintessence (of clay);
Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (fetus) lump; then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then We developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the noblest of Creators!†(Al-Mumenoon, 12-14)

The key line is "in a place of rest, firmly fixed", which is the point when the sperm and ovum fuse and The ovum attaches to the tube wall.

This process is microscopic, and unobservable. I'd love to see what Galen really said, but there's no way he knew what was happening in the microscopic realm.


now a QUESTION to you. please tell us if the medical part of baby development was copied from three doctors then why only te right part was copied. why didn't the prophet PBUH copied the wrong part.
was prophet a doctor himself . I guess no one will agree he was an illetrate person who neither could write nor could read. And he copied only the correct information from other human sources.
you don't need to be a rocket SCIENTIST to understand what I am saying :D .

Therefore ... what ARE YOU SAYING?

Therefore, the quran is the ultimate knowledge on Earth that has ever existed , in that there is absolutely no human being or even group of people who could produce similar text of even a single verse of the holy quran
This very verse explains that;

"If the mankind and the jinn were together to produce the like of this Qur'ân, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another." (AL-isra 88)

Similarly, there is no single text produced by anyone neither before or after the time of revealation of the Qur'an which contains ideas that have only been in the quran . moreover, nobody can reasonably deny that all the scintific discoveries of the modern time are all strikingly mentioned 14 centuries ago with surprising details, which scientist themselves are helplssly striving to explain , have been mentioned in the quran

 

[Ahuli]

Therefore, the quran is the ultimate knowledge on Earth that has ever existed , in that there is absolutely no human being or even group of people who could produce similar text of even a single verse of the holy quran
This very verse explains that;

"If the mankind and the jinn were together to produce the like of this Qur'ân, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another." (AL-isra 88)

Similarly, there is no single text produced by anyone neither before or after the time of revealation of the Qur'an which contains ideas that have only been in the quran . moreover, nobody can reasonably deny that all the scintific discoveries of the modern time are all strikingly mentioned 14 centuries ago with surprising details, which scientist themselves are helplssly striving to explain , have been mentioned in the quran

That's what I thought you'd said.
All you have to do now is prove it. But please, coherently and accuractely. Thank you.

 

[Pard]

Similarly, there is no single text produced by anyone neither before or after the time of revealation of the Qur'an which contains ideas that have only been in the quran

... are you serious? Of course no one has "produced" a book with ideas in the quran that, as you put it "have only been in the quran". I can literally say the same thing about any book that contains information not found elsewhere... like, oh say... the Bible.

Anyways...

Here is a detailed article on the topic Ahuli mentioned.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Sc ... mbryo.html

I imagine you will not read it, since you tend to ignore anything from them, though that is your lose and cannot be put on me as not bringing substantial evidence to the table to refute your claims about the quran.

I'd also like to point out another thing many muslims like to quote on science in the quran. Some passages in the Quran 30:48; 24:43, are said to be scientifically accurate explanations of the hydrologic water cycle and that it is more proof that the quran is real, since it shows science not known before. Of course, if someone would just open a Bible, the book muslims claim to revere as holy, you'd see that these things on hydologic water cycles where answered 1600 years earlier in Job 36:27-28, and 3 other passages Eccl 11:3; Job 26:8; Eccl 1:6-7

 

[dignity]

Here is a detailed article on the topic Ahuli mentioned.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Sc ... mbryo.html

I imagine you will not read it, since you tend to ignore anything from them, though that is your lose and cannot be put on me as not bringing substantial evidence to the table to refute your claims about the quran.

When Mr ahuli asked for a proof about embryology in quran, i gave the verse explaining that from the quran, but what you gave as a proof is actually a very long and detailed article that tries to confirm the these telling that gallen ‘s books are the source of embryology in the quran, that’s not convencing ; what i’m interested in, is what gallen said not what people said about what he has said , so please, give me the original text of gallen (wich must be in greek literature) with its translation explaining all the stages of embryo .
Don’t forget please, that as i said before our prophet PBUH was unlettered couldn’t write nor read, so how could he copy such informaitions from a greek scientist ? moreover ,people in his time were interested just in peotry not science. More than that , all people were against him when he asked them to believe in islam, the newest and the true religion of god ,so no one was with him but his wife khadija and his best friend abu bakr

« If you are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down onto Our servant (Muhammad), then produce a chapter of the like thereof, and call your witnesses, supporters, who are apart from God, if you are truthful ». (al-Baqara, 2.23)


What makes quran different from all other books
The quran’s wording, styles, and meaning proves how it’s different from all other books in the world , it ‘s is a book of Divine truths, metaphysics, religious beliefs and worship, prayer, law and morality, a book fully describing the other life, a book of psychology, sociology, epistemology, and history, and a book containing scientific facts and the principles of a happy life, does not have any contradictory points. Whereas, the Quran openly declares that it has no contradictions at all and therefore is a Divine Book
« Will they not then ponder on the Quran? If it had been from other than God they would have found therein much contradiction and incongruity ». (al-Nisa’, 4.82)
Besides, All the sentences, words and even letters used in the Quran form such a miraculous harmony that, with respect to rhythm, music, and even geometric proportions and mathematical measures, and with respect to how many times each is used in the whole of the Quran, each is in the exact place it must be and interwoven and interrelated with others. The literary masterpiece of no one, including the sayings of the Prophet himself, upon him be peace and blessings, cannot compete with the Quran
So, how many scientist, professional and expert do you need in addition to the three, to prove that quran is not from god
Anyway i invite you to read the quran yourselves so that you can figure it out, it will be a great experience for you if just you read it objectively and being honest with yourselves
thank you all

 

[dignity]

Here is another proof
« Did We not create you from a base fluid, then place it in a secure repository for a recognised term? It is We Who determine. What an excellent Determiner! » (Surat al-Mursalat, 20-23)

« We created man from the purest kind of clay; then made him a drop in a secure receptacle; then formed the drop into a clot and formed the clot into a lump and formed the lump into bones and clothed the bones in flesh; and then brought him into being as another creature. Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators! » (Surat al-Muminun, 12-14)

The above verses about the creation of human beings contain fundamental information from the field of embryology. The description of the womb as ‘a secure receptacle†indicates an important feature that has been better understood through modern science. (Allah knows the truth.) The process that begins with the zygote, produced by the sperm and egg cells coming together and continues until the emergence of a complete human being, made up of trillions of cells all working in harmony, takes place in the mother’s womb. This place, where the embryo completes its 9 months of development is, as the verse tells us, ‘a secure receptacle.’
The word "mekiynin," translated as ‘secure’ above, also suggests such meanings as ‘unshakeable, sound, resolute, powerful, fixed and safely put in place.’ The word "kararin" also means ‘location, stability, permanence and place of settlement.’ These words very wisely describe the womb as a sound and safe location.
The mother’s womb provides insulation against external agents, light and sound, and particularly protects the baby against shock and pressure. Located in the pelvic cavity, the womb is well protected by the thick and strong bones that surround’endometrium’ on the inside, helping bear the weight of the embryo until the end of pregnancy. This structure made up of powerful muscles is ideally constructed for the baby’s growth and development. During pregnancy, the ligaments attaching the bones in the region together become thicker and longer. These ligaments that attach the top of the womb to the strong pelvic bones make the womb strong and stable.

 

[Danus]

Very interesting topic. Here are all the verses from the Quran I could find dealing with a variety of scientific knowledge. Granted it's not too specific, but there are striking references to scientific facts.


One would think with all this fore-knowledge that the Muslim world would be the epicenter for scientific research and progress.....wonder why it's not?


Creation

"Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then We split them apart? And We made from water every living thing…" (21:30).

"And Allah has created every animal from water. Of them there are some that creep on their bellies, some that walk on two legs, and some that walk on four..." (24:45)

"See they not how Allah originates creation, then repeats it? Truly that is easy for Allah" (29:19).

Astronomy

"It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. All (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course" (21:33).

"It is not permitted for the sun to catch up to the moon, nor can the night outstrip the day. Each just swims along in its own orbit" (36:40).

"He created the heavens and the earth in true proportions. He makes the night overlap the day, and the day overlap the night. He has subjected the sun and the moon to His law; each one follows a course for a time appointed..." (39:5).

"The sun and the moon follow courses exactly computed" (55:5).

Geology

"You see the mountains and think they are firmly fixed. But they pass away just as the clouds pass away. Such is the artistry of Allah, Who disposes of all things in perfect order" (27:88).

Fetal Development

"Man We did create from a quintessence of clay. Then we placed him as a drop of sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed. Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood. Then out of that clot We made a fetus lump. Then We made out of that lump bones, and clothed the bones with flesh. Then We developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the Best to create!" (23:12-14).

"But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him of His spirit. And He gave you hearing, and sight, and understanding" (32:9).

"That He did create the pairs, male and female, from a sperm-drop when lodged in its place" (53:45-46).

"Was he not a drop of sperm emitted, then did he become a leach-like clot. Then did Allah make and fashion him in due proportion. And of him He made two sexes, male and female" (75:37-39).

"He makes you in the wombs of your mothers in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness" (39:6).

 

[Pard]

"The sun and the moon follow courses exactly computed" (55:5).

Wow... alla predicted the computer... : )sorry for the thud smiley, we do not have a bowing one!)

Dignity,

Your "proof" is just quotes from your book... To be proof that your book predicted anything at all you need to show that it was not known before...

 

[dignity]

Dignity,

Your "proof" is just quotes from your book... To be proof that your book predicted anything at all you need to show that it was not known before...

What were scientists ‘ first theories about the embryo, and how they had imaginated it
Since Aristotle had summed up the prevailing theories in his age relating to the creation of the embryo, controversy continued among the supporters of the theory of the full dwarf embryo existing in man’s sperm and those of the theory of the full dwarf embryo created out of the woman’s menstrual blood coagulation (thickening). Most of them believed that man was reduced into that sperm drop, and they drew a figure in which they imagined the embryo as a full creature in the sperm drop, which then grew up in the womb as a small tree.

None of both groups could realize that man’s sperm and woman’s ovum participate in the creation of the embryo, as supported by the Italian Scientist “Spallanzani†in the year of 1775. In 1783, Van Beneden was able to confirm this statement, and thus the idea of the dwarf embryo had been discarded. During the years 1888 and 1909 Boveri proved that chromosomes when divided carry the different genetic characteristics. Morgan, in 1912, was able to determine the role of genes, existing in certain parts of chromosomes, in hereditary.

Therefore, it is clear that mankind did not realize that the embryo is created of a man’s sperm mingled with a woman’s ovum except in the 18th century, and only to be confirmed at the beginning of the 20th century.
On the other hand, the Holy Quran and the Prophetic speeches have confirmed in a very accurate scientific manner the creation of man from a mingled fluid-drop (nutfa amshaj), as coined by the Quran, which says ;
“Verily We created man from a drop of a mingled fluid-drop (nutfa amshaj), in order to try him: so We gave him (the gifts), of hearing and sight.†(76:2).
It has been agreed upon by commentators of the Holy Quran that “amshaj†means mingling, as man’s water mingles with that of the woman
and this is also what the Prophet (peace be upon him) confirmed in one of his speeches. Imam Ahmed indicated in his book “Al Musnad†that a Jew passed by the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) while he was addressing his companions. Some people from Quarish said; “O Jew! This man proclaims that he is a prophet.†The Jew said: “ I will ask him of something no one knows except a prophet.†He asked the prophet (PBUH); “ O Mohammed! What is man created from? The Prophet (PBUH) said; “O Jew! Man is created from both: man’s fluid (nutfa) and woman’s fluid.†The Jew said; “This is said by thse prophets before you.†.
I still waiting for what gallen said

 

[farside]

Mujahid Abdullah and dignity, you two have missed seven miraculous predictions from the holy Quran. You can find them at the following link:

http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Farsideol ... redictions

Enjoy!
Farside of wikiislam.org

 

[Danus]

Wow, with all this scientific knowledge you'd think Sudi Arabia, Iran, or any number of other Islamic law nations/countries would have a killer space program by now, or be responsible for the latest medical advancements. Maybe redesign the internet or something?

Is there something about sharia law that keeps you from it?

 

[Danus]

Wow, with all this scientific knowledge you'd think Sudi Arabia, Iran, or any number of other Islamic law nations/countries would have a killer space program by now, or be responsible for the latest medical advancements. Maybe redesign the internet or something?

Is there something about sharia law that keeps you from it?

Mujahid Abdullah and dignity, you two have missed seven miraculous predictions from the holy Quran. You can find them at the following link:

http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Farsideol ... redictions

Enjoy!
Farside of wikiislam.org

way to contribute intellectualy to the conversation - thanks you two for all the helpful, knowledgable and well researched insight - and keep up all the mockery cause Im sure thats what Jesus(AS) would do[/sarcasm]

Ok then let's make it more intellectual. Do Muslims base some or part of their belief in the validity of the Quran by these verses?

 

[dignity]

Mujahid Abdullah and dignity, you two have missed seven miraculous predictions from the holy Quran. You can find them at the following link:

http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Farsideol ... redictions

Enjoy!

Actually that’s not what I expected from you, I expected that you will answer my question ,or at least read reasonably my posts ,maybe there are something you don’t understand and need to be clarified, but instead,you bring sites with false interpretations of verses in the the holy quran , interpretations based on imagination.
I wonder , do you use your imagination to understand the bible ? or do you read it objectively and interpret it reasonably ?
I CAN SAY that you don’t believe that the quran is god’s word, not because it is not (as you say)but because you just don’t want to, rejecting any proof or any fact that proves the truth.
Be honest with yourself, the truth is in front of your eyes, but you refuse to see it .

 

[dignity]

Ok then let's make it more intellectual. Do Muslims base some or part of their belief in the validity of the Quran by these verses?

every single verse in the quran proves that ist is from GOD,ALLAH (SWT),

“Those who reject Our Signs, We shall soon Cast into the Fire. As often as their skins Are roasted through We shall change them For fresh skins, That they may taste The Chastisement: for Allah Is Exalted in Power, Wise†(4:56).

In very simple and highly rhetorical words, the verse shows that Allah has promised the disbelievers constant punishment through replacing their burnt skins with new ones so that they would undergo and feel the pain.
In the past, it was thought that human body was wholly sensitive. Any part of the human body was likely to feel any outer influence. In other words, if exposed to any beating or physical torture of any kind, the whole human body would feel the pain and ailing. This concept possessed the mind and intellect of man throughout history.

However, the progress in anatomy proved the contrary: it is not the whole body but the skin which is sensitive; it is the real organ of senses. To prove this, it was suggested that if a syringe is inserted into the body, the pain would go away as soon as the syringe penetrates the skin and pokes the flesh. That is, one would feel the pain only at the poking of the skin but as the syringe pierces the flesh there is no more pain. Microscopically, examining a sample of the skin, specialists or dermatologists found that the skin has sense receptors of various kinds. While some for touching and pressure, others are for coldness, warmth and so on. More importantly is that those sense receptors to temperature, coldness and heat, exist only in the skin. So that’s another proof that the quran is word of god.

 

[dignity]

"O company of jinn and men, if you have the power to go beyond the bounds of the heavens and the earth, go beyond them! Yet you will be unable to go beyond them for that requires infinite power" (55:33)

The verse means to impress this: `It is not in your power to escape Allah's grasp. When the time for the accountability of which you are being foretold comes, you will be seized and brought before God in any case wherever you may be. To go out of God's reach you will have to flee from the Universe of God for which you do trot have the required power. If you feel that you have the power, then you may use that power if you so will.



« Do they not observe the birds above them, spreading their wings
and folding them in? None can uphold them except the Most Gracious. Truly it is
He that watches over all things » 67:19

Allah has graciously given the air such properties and equipped
birds physically such that they are able to fly and manoeuvre in the air. Just
as Allah (swt) has taken care of the needs of birds, so has He
done for all of His creations, from the cosmos to human beings. Not only did He
set the laws of nature at the beginning, He continuously watches over their
operation. He also overrules them, or adjusts them as He likes and His plan
requires.

 

[dignity]

" It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor can the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit"(36:40)

"And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit". ( 21:33)

The signs till now were mentioned as arguments for Tauhid (Monotheism). This sign has been mentioned to make man realize that whatever powers he has been given over the forces of nature, have been given him by Allah and are not of his own acquirement. And whatever methods he has discovered of exploiting these forces; have been discovered also through the guidance of Allah and not solely by himself. Man did not have the power and strength to have subdued these great forces by his own power, nor the capability to have discovered the secrets of nature himself and known the methods of taking service from them. Then he can use and employ the forces over which he has been given control by Allah only till the time that Allah wills them to remain subdued to him. For when Allah wills otherwise the same forces which were serving man turn against him suddenly and he finds himself utterly helpless before them. To call man's attention to this reality Allah has presented the case of the sea journey only as an example. The whole human race would have perished in the Flood had Allah not taught the method of making the vessel to the Prophet Noah and had his followers not boarded it. Then the scattering of the human race over the whole earth became possible only because the people learned the principles of building vessels from Allah and became able to cross the rivers and oceans. But from that humble beginning till today in spite of making great strides in the art of building huge ships and attaining every possible perfection in the science of navigation, man cannot claim that he has brought the rivers and the oceans fully under his control and power. Even today the water of God is still in God's own power alone and whenever He wills He drowns man along with his ships in it.

 

[Danus]

Ok then let's make it more intellectual. Do Muslims base some or part of their belief in the validity of the Quran by these verses?

every single verse in the quran proves that ist is from GOD,ALLAH (SWT),

“Those who reject Our Signs, We shall soon Cast into the Fire. As often as their skins Are roasted through We shall change them For fresh skins, That they may taste The Chastisement: for Allah Is Exalted in Power, Wise†(4:56).

In very simple and highly rhetorical words, the verse shows that Allah has promised the disbelievers constant punishment through replacing their burnt skins with new ones so that they would undergo and feel the pain.
In the past, it was thought that human body was wholly sensitive. Any part of the human body was likely to feel any outer influence. In other words, if exposed to any beating or physical torture of any kind, the whole human body would feel the pain and ailing. This concept possessed the mind and intellect of man throughout history.

However, the progress in anatomy proved the contrary: it is not the whole body but the skin which is sensitive; it is the real organ of senses. To prove this, it was suggested that if a syringe is inserted into the body, the pain would go away as soon as the syringe penetrates the skin and pokes the flesh. That is, one would feel the pain only at the poking of the skin but as the syringe pierces the flesh there is no more pain. Microscopically, examining a sample of the skin, specialists or dermatologists found that the skin has sense receptors of various kinds. While some for touching and pressure, others are for coldness, warmth and so on. More importantly is that those sense receptors to temperature, coldness and heat, exist only in the skin. So that’s another proof that the quran is word of god.

Oh Ok, well I'm glad you clarified that and that your not mixing your God Allah with the God we call God. As far as the rest, well, I'm still waiting to see the scientific progress of the Muslim world. I hear Iran shot a Dog into space or something a few years ago. The rocket never actually reached space and it smashed into the ocean killing the dog, but It's a start I guess. I do know they are working on a nuclear program....all copied from the west. Anything in the Quaran about nuclear science? There should be you know. That would be a great way to win converts I would think and since most of the Islamic world has been stealing that technology from the west I figure Allah must not have left any notes, but I could be wrong.

 

[dignity]

Oh Ok, well I'm glad you clarified that and that your not mixing your God Allah with the God we call God.

you ‘re right , my God,ALLAH,is not the one you call God, your God, as you consider him, is Jesus (AS) ,while my God,ALLAH, is the almighty, who created Jesus and his mother ,he created prophets and massengers, the universe ,heavens and earth . Allah is the Creator of all the existent things and is the One Who manages all the creation.

One would think with all this fore-knowledge that the Muslim world would be the epicenter for scientific research and progress.....wonder why it's not?

I'm still waiting to see the scientific progress of the Muslim world.

actually , muslim world had a great impact on science progress, and without muslim scientists, the European Renaissance, would not have begun, and come to naturity. Their contributions are rarely mentioned in formal education, and if at all mentionend, their names are Latinized or changed with the effect of obscuring their identity and origin, and their association with the Islamic Civilization.

check the video in coming site
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKDSZuEHNE4&feature=related part 1
and part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og94EasJPas&NR=1

I hear Iran shot a Dog into space or something a few years ago. The rocket never actually reached space and it smashed into the ocean killing the dog, but It's a start I guess.

Cocerning the story of the dog , i’m not sure if it is true or not , but i’m sure and certain that islam is absolutely against cruelty to animals , and ordered us as muslims to treat animals with compassion and not to abuse them. Our prophet mohammed PBUH repeatedly forbade cruelty to animals, saying in the Hadith popular tradition, "Whoever is kind to the creatures of God is kind to himself."
Similarly peace and blessing be upon him taught : "A good deed done to a beast is as good as doing good to a human being; while an act of cruelty to a beast is as bad as an act of cruelty to a human being."