• Love God, and love one another!

    Share your heart for Christ and others in Godly Love

    https://christianforums.net/forums/god_love/

  • Want to discuss private matters, or make a few friends?

    Ask for membership to the Men's or Lady's Locker Rooms

    For access, please contact a member of staff and they can add you in!

  • Wake up and smell the coffee!

    Join us for a little humor in Joy of the Lord

    https://christianforums.net/forums/humor_and_jokes/

  • Need prayer and encouragement?

    Come share your heart's concerns in the Prayer Forum

    https://christianforums.net/forums/prayer/

  • Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?

    Join Hidden in Him and For His Glory for discussions on how

    https://christianforums.net/threads/become-a-vessel-of-honor-part-2.112306/

  • Have questions about the Christian faith?

    Come ask us what's on your mind in Questions and Answers

    https://christianforums.net/forums/questions-and-answers/

  • CFN has a new look and a new theme

    "I bore you on eagle's wings, and brought you to Myself" (Exodus 19:4)

    More new themes coming in the future!

  • Read the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ?

    Read through this brief blog, and receive eternal salvation as the free gift of God

    /blog/the-gospel

  • Focus on the Family

    Strengthening families through biblical principles.

    Focus on the Family addresses the use of biblical principles in parenting and marriage to strengthen the family.

Second Coming 2017 - 7 Yr Trib Nov.2010

XTruth

Member
Joined
Jan 15, 2009
Messages
588
Reaction score
0
I have been studying this for 6 years. There are references to many other studies and links in my own. I give credit where it is due. Many of them you all will recognize. All the pieces finally fit. I wrote an article on my website that you can view here: www.conditionalsalvation.com/rapture_2010

It will just be easier than copying and pasting it.
Maranatha! Our Lord is coming back quickly.
 
XTruth said:
I have been studying this for 6 years. There are references to many other studies and links in my own. I give credit where it is due. Many of them you all will recognize. All the pieces finally fit. I wrote an article on my website that you can view here: http://www.conditionalsalvation.com/rapture_2010

It will just be easier than copying and pasting it.
Maranatha! Our Lord is coming back quickly.
"IS THE RAPTURE IN 2010?"
I fully expect you to defend your six years of study Sept. 24th 2010. :salute
 
Sinthesis said:
"IS THE RAPTURE IN 2010?"
I fully expect you to defend your six years of study Sept. 24th 2010. :salute
I will be right here with you, expecting the same. :yes

This sort of date-setting has been going on for a long, long time and is unBiblical. Yet, the site condemns God's perseverance of His saints by claiming it is a doctrine of the devil. :shame :shame
 
Mujahid Abdullah said:
One thing is true, he is confident in his research.

He posted some pretty specific dates. What will he do if they dont come true?

Most similar prophets get pretty specific. That's why skeptics call it a confidence game. I don't know what he'll do if (when) it doesn't come true. Maybe you should ask him, and please, convey my sympathy.
 
Hoping that it is true but not holding my breathe.
 
You seem a little unsure of yourself to be so precise with your dates. I just did a quick glance thru your "evidence" but here is my favorite one so far. In your chapter titled "Evidence for a Sept. 23, 2010 Rapture", the VERY FIRST sentence says, "The time of the rapture, like that of the second advent, is not definitely known as to the day or hour." I would like to quote Pard from a different thread, "HUH???????" I thought you just said it was Sept. 23???? I, like everyone else, will be sure to bump this thread up again in Oct.

:wave See ya in Oct, the Good Lord willing, Westtexas
 
westtexas said:
You seem a little unsure of yourself to be so precise with your dates. I just did a quick glance thru your "evidence" but here is my favorite one so far. In your chapter titled "Evidence for a Sept. 23, 2010 Rapture", the VERY FIRST sentence says, "The time of the rapture, like that of the second advent, is not definitely known as to the day or hour." I would like to quote Pard from a different thread, "HUH???????" I thought you just said it was Sept. 23???? I, like everyone else, will be sure to bump this thread up again in Oct.

:wave See ya in Oct, the Good Lord willing, Westtexas
That's right, you said it, you did a "QUICK" glance. I suggest you do more than a quick look here and there before you speak against something as an absolute...

The state I made, that you partially quoted, makes perfect sense with the entire sentence AND the entire introduction of that short chapter. Furthermore, the entire study is not one of surity, it is one that points to a numerous amount of evidence to those dates. If you understood the timing in the end times, such as the 7 years, 2300 days, 1260 days, 1290 days, and the 1335 days; then combined it with all the events, then you'd get it. ALL the days fit.

Amazing how I can be sarcasticly called a prophet by one smug post, yet the claim I made is not one of a prophet.... I am no more a prophet for seeing the Second Coming, as mapped out by the skies and prophesies, then the kings of the east were (the magi, "3 wise men"). I am one who studies prophesy, no more, no less. I watch as I am commanded. I am confident about the timing, as it relates to the years and months.... I am also confident about the days or I would've never given them; they are based on solid biblical facts. I even make the statement more than once that a couple may be wrong.... but not by more than a few days.... and that would only relate to the Rapture and the Second Coming.

No one has to wait till September or October. If by July 20, there has been nothing in the world that is considered ground breaking news above the norm, then I am wrong, but I won't be. More specific, July 11 or July 20... on one of those days.... most likely involving Israel

But even then, you won't believe the rest till it's too late for you (2 Pt.3:3-4). You are blind, asleep, not soberly watching for His return. You scoff, you won't even examine what's given to you as a gift and hold it up to the Word of God to see if it is true or not. Though if you did hold up the truth of the knowledge from God with the Word of God.... you would still not know what you were looking at. You are all scoffers.

For this, I'm sure you will be here in October. Please do everyone a favor, including yourself, remember this as you said you would and re-post it.

And while you're on the computer, learn why you were left behind: www.conditionalsalvation.com/free_book
Hold your sympathy David505, it is all yours .....scoffers of men and scoffers of the Word of God and His doctrines. My Jesus, my God, only comes as a thief in the night for those who are not watching... not ready. As for me and those watching, we see His light coming from over the hill; we are watching, sober, not blind, not dead, and not lukewarm. We are ready.
 
XTruth said:
Amazing how I can be sarcasticly called a prophet by one smug post, yet the claim I made is not one of a prophet....Hold your sympathy David505, it is all yours ...

Thanks XTruth,

Sorry if I sounded smug. That’s not a good attitude.

I do realize that much of the prophetic scenario awaits fulfillment, and that in the interim, we’re wise to consider the merits of different viewpoints. I have my own ideas about certain aspects of prophecy (as many of us do), which I’m sure, eventually, will receive heaps of criticism, although I’m ok with that.

For your part, the ideas about signs in the heavens are interesting and worthy of consideration.

I favor a modification of the pre-wrath idea (VanKampen & Rosenthal). I also think we’ll see some events unfold in advance of Daniel’s 70th Week, notably, partition of the world into ten geoeconomic regions.

Otherwise, please keep in mind that impending rapture scenarios may generate some hysteria.

Hope we're ok now.
 
We should agree that every one of us should constantly be ready in view of eternity. I agree with this.

But most are not, and I send this research out in case some are not living holy before God. This warning should cause all to repent and examine themselves constantly in order to assure they are still in the faith. There are 40 days left until the first Rapture watch of this fall. Watch and prepare yourselves.

(Rapture timing beliefs are'nt the issue at this point) If it happens, then I won't even think about an I told you so when in heaven. If it doesn't happen this fall, as it is surely a fulfillment of a fall feast day, then all I can expect is scorn.... so what am I gaining either way? All I want is for you to prepare yourselves and watch. Our Lord is coming!
 
XTruth said:
No one has to wait till September or October. If by July 20, there has been nothing in the world that is considered ground breaking news above the norm, then I am wrong, but I won't be. More specific, July 11 or July 20... on one of those days.... most likely involving Israel

There's an ongoing war in Iraq and another in Afghanistan. There are also problems in Pakistan, North Korea and many other places around the world in addition to the political and economic unrest that has plagued the world recently. As a result, there is a lot of news, but I haven't seen anything I would consider "ground breaking news above the norm" recently. Did I miss something?
 
i guess i got left behind too, and i'm a pretribber. i avoid dating for that reason, we arent told the date, only to be ready and observing the signs, and also to reaching for the lost.

keep in mind that tommorow isnt promised to us all. some poster may not see tommorow and for them then the judgment. so which should live that the lord will come tommorow and let god fulfill his part. he made the promise to return not us.
 
Mujahid Abdullah said:
XTruth said:
We should agree that every one of us should constantly be ready in view of eternity. I agree with this.

But most are not, and I send this research out in case some are not living holy before God. This warning should cause all to repent and examine themselves constantly in order to assure they are still in the faith. There are 40 days left until the first Rapture watch of this fall. Watch and prepare yourselves.

(Rapture timing beliefs are'nt the issue at this point) If it happens, then I won't even think about an I told you so when in heaven. If it doesn't happen this fall, as it is surely a fulfillment of a fall feast day, then all I can expect is scorn.... so what am I gaining either way? All I want is for you to prepare yourselves and watch. Our Lord is coming!


Soooo now your backing off from the prediction game?

its July 31st now, were you refering to July 11 or July 20 2010?

The forum has been a litlle slow latley, maybe the rapture di happen and I missed the news?

No, I'm not backing off at all. Read the site. If I was backing off.... I probably wouldn't have posted the above, right?

I can only conclude that the 3 total solar eclipses, which rabbis believe to be a sign of judgment against the nations, are a count down to the Tribulation, which happens in November. The following research is still good to learn, but nothing happened on the days of Av... it does NOT change the rest of the research though. The 3 eclipses point to something. It must be that this is the year that begins God's judgment against the nations.

I only want you all to be ready by Sept 9. I don't want any to be left behind. The possibility is great for the rapture to happen this September. I understand how crazy that sounds to many, that's why I've taken much of my time and money to write out the research on the website I pay for.... it is for all of you, not me. It may not happen this year, God knows. I get no praise if I'm right... I'll be in heaven. I only put myself in a position of mockery in order that some may prepare themselves. Repent if any need to do so. Stop the sin your in for those it applies to. Get ready, don't be left behind.

I love you and so does God. Now, there is no need to mock me any further
 
jasoncran said:
i guess i got left behind too, and i'm a pretribber. i avoid dating for that reason, we arent told the date, only to be ready and observing the signs, and also to reaching for the lost.

keep in mind that tommorow isnt promised to us all. some poster may not see tommorow and for them then the judgment. so which should live that the lord will come tommorow and let god fulfill his part. he made the promise to return not us.
September... read the info before making insincere comments moderator
 
Before anyone imprudently attempts to 'set an exact date' for the commencement of the Great Tribulation, one should first be aware of the actual 'duration' of the Great Tribulation.

"Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven 'sevens', and sixty-two 'sevens.' It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble." (Daniel 9:25)

"After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. . . . He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering." (Daniel 9:26,27)


The Great Tribulation is 1,335 days in length, NOT seven years (i.e. there is no 'future' seventieth week of seven years).

From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah begins His ministry, there will be one Jubilee cycle of 49 years plus 62 weeks (434 years) for a total of 483 years. In the middle of the seventieth week, Messiah will be rejected by His people and be put to death.

According to Luke 1:17, John the Baptist began his ministry before Jesus appeared. The baptism of Messiah occurred during the fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar, which is A.D. 27 – which is the first year of the seventieth week.

The Jublilee calendar and the decree of Artaxerxes in 457 B.C. forces A.D. 30 to be the middle year of the seventieth week – Jesus died at just the right time (in the MIDDLE of the seventieth week - see Daniel 9:26,27 above), with A.D. 33 being the END of the seventieth week. There is no 'future' seventieth week, other than in the imagination of religious organizations.

The coming Great Tribulation (whenever the Father's 'appointed time' happens to be) is 1,335 days in length, which is three and a half years plus an additional two months. There is no mention of a 'seven year' tribulation (i.e. 'future' seventieth week) anywhere in the Bible, other than the aforementioned erroneous interpretation of Daniel 9:25-27.

Daniel 12:11,12 "From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days."
 
XTruth said:
jasoncran said:
i guess i got left behind too, and i'm a pretribber. i avoid dating for that reason, we arent told the date, only to be ready and observing the signs, and also to reaching for the lost.

keep in mind that tommorow isnt promised to us all. some poster may not see tommorow and for them then the judgment. so which should live that the lord will come tommorow and let god fulfill his part. he made the promise to return not us.
September... read the info before making insincere comments moderator
uh, the problem with that is this, i dont fear my death

assurance its a wonderful thing. paul spoke of this when he said to be absent in body is to present with the lord. if paul being an apostle knew this, so should we.

i did read all the comments when you put a time line on when the coming will be with dates thats not biblical as osigoth pointed out the clock starts when the tribulation starts till then we dont really know the exact date, i think we are very near but then again so did the apostles.
 
If only you were right....

Seems interesting
 
XTruth said:
...The following research is still good to learn, but nothing happened on the days of Av... it does NOT change the rest of the research though.

Actually, it does change the rest of it. Remember posting this?

XTruth said:
No one has to wait till September or October. If by July 20, there has been nothing in the world that is considered ground breaking news above the norm, then I am wrong, but I won't be. More specific, July 11 or July 20... on one of those days.... most likely involving Israel

According to your own words, if nothing has happened by July 20, then you are wrong about the timing of the rapture. We are now nearly 2 weeks past that date and nothing spectacular has happened. This means that, according to your own claims, you are wrong.
 
Theofilus said:
XTruth said:
...The following research is still good to learn, but nothing happened on the days of Av... it does NOT change the rest of the research though.

Actually, it does change the rest of it. Remember posting this?

XTruth said:
No one has to wait till September or October. If by July 20, there has been nothing in the world that is considered ground breaking news above the norm, then I am wrong, but I won't be. More specific, July 11 or July 20... on one of those days.... most likely involving Israel

According to your own words, if nothing has happened by July 20, then you are wrong about the timing of the rapture. We are now nearly 2 weeks past that date and nothing spectacular has happened. This means that, according to your own claims, you are wrong.

My thoughts exactly.
My only thing is we have to know for sure why we disagree with him
 
Everything anyone posts on this site gets debated for sport. How many different subjects could be debated from this eschatology? It lists most all of them. So, the point of thisreally isn't to be debated. I just want all you people to make sure your ready... examine yourselves- check for any unbelief, hate, unforgiveness, all sin. Make yourselves ready (Eph.5:27).

You all can debate amongst yourselves if you can't control your typing fingers. I'll remind you again by September.

P.S. Theofilus, after reading your reminder, you are right, it does read that exact way. However, those 3 total solar eclipses all on the 1st of Av are a countdown to something. The research and why they aren't a mere coincidence, and what they mean to rabbis is all in the research here: http://www.conditionalsalvation.com/rapture_2010 I'd love it if someone would reply who has actually read beyond the timelines.
 
Oats said:
Theofilus said:
XTruth said:
...The following research is still good to learn, but nothing happened on the days of Av... it does NOT change the rest of the research though.

Actually, it does change the rest of it. Remember posting this?

XTruth said:
No one has to wait till September or October. If by July 20, there has been nothing in the world that is considered ground breaking news above the norm, then I am wrong, but I won't be. More specific, July 11 or July 20... on one of those days.... most likely involving Israel

According to your own words, if nothing has happened by July 20, then you are wrong about the timing of the rapture. We are now nearly 2 weeks past that date and nothing spectacular has happened. This means that, according to your own claims, you are wrong.

My thoughts exactly.
My only thing is we have to know for sure why we disagree with him
You actually get it, Oats. Disagreeing is more than okay... not reading the other persons research; yet, not agreeing with that research is not wise.
 
Back
Top