[_ Old Earth _] Soft dinosaur and other prehistoric soft tissue

[brujaq]

There are depictions, illustrations of dinosaurs found just about all over Earth and from different civilizations , Pottery, rock, walls, even accurate markings of at least one Dino that was found with skin with the same markings, one temple in SE Asia with a Stegosaurus .. The dragon is one of the animals of a year in China .. Go back and look at the hilarious phone call video posted and convince anyone that Jack Horner was'nt in a pickle lying his butt off hiding the truth being deceptive to those that would fall for it , ''gimmie a break'' .. I was born at night but not last night !!! They don't even believe that ''Fe'' preserved anything but they know by now they have a dependable group of lemmings they can count on to swallow what they feed them .. But the entertainment value is comical and endless ..

 

[Barbarian]

Once again we see the evo world presenting an assumption based upon 3 years as a new scientific fact.

As you know, if it can happen in three year, it certainly could happen in many million years. You know this.

Secondly, no, even if it happened a million times slower. The material simply wouldn't last.

I know you really want to believe it, but given the evidence that shows it does, and no evidence whatever for your belief, there's really not much else to say, is there?

The best answer science has....as you have learned, is that organic materials can last for many millions of years under the right conditions.

 

[brujaq]

As you know, if it can happen in three year, it certainly could happen in many million years. You know this.



I know you really want to believe it, but given the evidence that shows it does, and no evidence whatever for your belief, there's really not much else to say, is there?

The best answer science has....as you have learned, is that organic materials can last for many millions of years under the right conditions.

Ha, you know you look ridiculous expecting anyone that can think would buy that ..

 

[Barbarian]

There are depictions, illustrations of dinosaurs found just about all over Earth and from different civilizations

Any fantastic animal that looks remotely like a dinosaur in a rock carving is assumed by creationists to be a dinosaur. We get that. But you have it backwards. Take griffins,for example, widely found in art in central Asia. And guess what kinds of fossils are found there...

Millions of years before humans arrived in the Gobi, the desert was home to strange animals that seemed to combine body parts of eagles and lions. But these animals weren't griffins; they were dinosaurs...
The ancient Greeks are widely credited for their achievements in math, philosophy and art--but not for finding fossils. Yet we know the Greeks found the preserved bones of unfamiliar animals and tried to interpret them. An image on a ceramic mixing bowl, dating to around 550 BC, depicts a battle between the hero Hercules and the legendary Monster of Troy, shown only as a white, toothy skull emerging from a black cliff face. Adrienne Mayor suggests the monster is actually based on a fossil skull of the ancient giraffe relative Samotherium found eroding out of a hillside.
https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/mythic-creatures/land-creatures-of-the-earth/griffin-bones

And it's not hard to see why they thought so...

Looks like a dragon, um? This is why a lot of those fantastic creatures look vaguely dinosaur-like, but get the superficial appearance wrong. If they actually saw one of these alive, they'd get the actual appearance right. When primitive men say animals that are now extinct, they were able to very accurately draw them. European ice age paintings, for example, show precise detailing.

But the people who peddle those stories know most people aren't aware of this, and use ignorance to their advantage.





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[Barbarian]

Ha, you know you look ridiculous expecting anyone that can think would buy that ..

Anyone with even a superficial understanding of chemistry would realize why iron would do this to organic material. No point in denying it.

 

[brujaq]

When was the word ''dinosaur'' first invented ?

 

[Barbarian]

When was the word ''dinosaur'' first invented ?

Quite early, 19th century, I believe. Possibly 18th. (Barbarian checks)...

Yes:

The taxon Dinosauria was formally named in 1842 by paleontologist Sir Richard Owen, who used it to refer to the "distinct tribe or sub-order of Saurian Reptiles" that were then being recognized in England and around the world.[

The taxon is paraphyletic, that is, it includes all reptiles of a common archosaur ancestor, but does not include birds which are also descended from the same ancestor.

The term "terrible lizard" is somewhat misleading, since dinosaurs are only distantly related to lizards; lizards are not even archosaurs, but are diapsids, a group including dinosaurs, alligators, lizards, and snakes.

 

[brujaq]

So what was a dragon ?

 

[Barbarian]

No rational person would believe iron would preserve soft tissues

It's directly observed. No point in denial.

 

[Barbarian]

So what was a dragon ?

The one the Greeks thought was a dragon was Samotherium, a somewhat smaller version of today's giraffes. The skull does look like our conception of a dragon, and the long neck was interpreted as a sinuous body.

Once again we see the evo world presenting an assumption based upon 3 years as a new scientific fact.
Secondly, no, even if it happened a million times slower. The material simply wouldn't last.

I know you want to believe that, but the evidence says otherwise. Sorry.

 

[brujaq]

It's directly observed. No point in denial.

That there is soft tissue , I agree

 

[brujaq]

The one the Greeks thought was a dragon was Samotherium, a somewhat smaller version of today's giraffes. The skull does look like our conception of a dragon, and the long neck was interpreted as a sinuous body.



I know you want to believe that, but the evidence says otherwise. Sorry.

Why didn't they call it a kind of dinosaur ?

 

[Barbarian]

Why didn't they call it a kind of dinosaur ?

Because the word didn't exist until the 1800s.

 

[brujaq]

Exactly ..