Sons of God

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Sons of God

Seth didn't have a son until 235 years after creation, and his son didn't have a son until 325 years after creation (Genesis 5:3,6,9). Where did these sons come from? They couldn't have been sons of Seth, because these marriages took place when men began to multiply-in the very beginning of the race before Seth had sons of marriageable age. The term "sons of God" proves they were the product of God, not Seth. They were the fallen angels of 1 Peter 3:19; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6-7. See the Septuagint; Josephus, Antiquities Book 1, 3:1; Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. VIII, p. 273; and Giants and the Sons of God.

—Dake's Topics

Proofs that Giants Were the Sons of Angels:



1. The fact that giants have lived on earth is clearly stated in Scripture. The Hebrew nephil (HSN-<H5303>) means "giant" or "tyrant" (Gen. 6:4; Num. 13:33). The men of Israel were as grasshoppers compared to them (Num. 13:33). The Hebrew gibbowr (HSN-<H1368>) is also translated "giant," meaning powerful, giant, mighty, or strong man (Job 16:14). To say these original words refer to their degree of wickedness instead of bodily size is a mistake.

The Anakims were a great and tall people (Dt. 1:28; 2:10-11,21; 9:2; Josh. 11:21-22; 14:12-14). Anak himself was a giant (Num. 13:33). If all Anakims were as big, we can be assured other giants were also. The land of Ammon was "a land of giants," for "giants dwelt therein in old time" (Dt. 2:19-20). The Emims were also "great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims" (Dt. 2:10-11). The same was said of the Zamzummims who formerly inhabited the land of Ammon (Dt. 2:19-21). Og, king of Bashan, is described as a giant whose iron bedstead was thirteen and a half feet long, and six feet wide. This is not a measurement of wickedness, but of a material bed for a giant body measuring nearly thirteen feet tall (Dt. 3:11; Josh. 12:4; 13:12). Bashan is called "the land of the giants" (Dt. 3:13).

A "valley of the giants" is mentioned in Josh. 15:8; 18:16. This is the valley of Rephaim, the name of another branch of the giant races mentioned in Scripture (Gen. 14:5; 15:20; 2Sam. 5:18,22; 23:13; 1Chr. 11:15; 14:9; Isa. 17:5). The Rephaims were well-known giants, but unfortunately, instead of retaining their proper name in Scripture, the translators used dead (Job 26:5; Ps. 88:10; Prov. 2:18; 9:18; 21:16; Isa. 14:8; 26:19); and deceased (Isa. 26:14). It should have been a proper name in all these places, as it is ten times otherwise. See notes on these passages which prove that giant bodies are referred to instead of great wickedness.

Rephaim is translated "giant" in Dt. 2:11,20; 3:11,13; Josh. 12:4; 13:12; 15:8; 18:16; 2Sam. 21:16,18,20,22; 1Chr. 20:4,6,8. The phrase "remnant of the giants" in Dt. 3:11; Josh. 12:4; 13:12 should be "remnant of the Rephaims," becaause there were many nations of giants other than the Rephaims who filled the whole country trying to contest God's claim on the promised land. They are listed as Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaims, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites, Jebusites, Hivites, Anakims, Emims, Horims, Avims, Zamzummims, Caphtorims, and Nephilims (Gen. 6:4; 14:5-6; 15:19-21; Ex. 3:8,17; 23:23; Dt. 2:10-12,20-23; 3:11-13; 7:1; 20:17; Josh. 12:4-8; 13:3; 15:8; 17:15; 18:16). Og was of the remnant of Rephaims, not the remnant of all other giant nations (Dt. 3:11; Josh. 12:4; 13:12).

All these giant nations came from a union of the sons of God (fallen angels) and daughters of men after the flood. Beings of great stature, some of them even had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot and carried spears weighing from 10 to 25 pounds (2Sam. 21:16-22; 1Chr. 20:4-8). Goliath, whom David slew, wore a coat of armor weighing 196 pounds and was nine feet and nine inches tall (1Sam. 17:4-6). The pyramids of Egypt, the giant cities of Bashan and other huge monuments of construction may remain a mystery until they are accepted as the result of the labor and skill of giants.

The revelation we have of giants in Scripture gives us a true picture of what Greek mythology tries in vain to give. Mythology is but the outgrowth of traditions, memories, and legends telling of the acts of supernatural fathers and their giant offspring -- the perversion and corruption in transmission of actual facts concerning these mighty beings. The fact that giants were partly of supernatural origin made it easy for human beings to regard them as gods.



2. The fact that the Rephaim have no resurrection (Isa. 26:14) proves the reality of giants and that they were not ordinary men. All ordinary men are to be resurrected (Jn. 5:28-29); therefore, giants must be a different class from pure Adamites. Isaiah makes it clear that the dead (Hebrew: Repha'iym (HSN-<H7497>)) are now in hell (Isa. 14:9). Solomon confirms this in Prov. 2:18; 9:18; 21:16 where the Hebrew word for dead is Rephaim. See notes, Isa. 26:14,19.



3. The fact that giants came only from a union of sons of God and daughters of men proves that their fathers were not ordinary men of Adamite stock. No such monstrosities have been produced from the union of any ordinary man and woman, regardless of the righteousness of the father or the wickedness of the mother. Many converted men who are sons of God in the sense of adoption and righteousness through Christ have been married to unconverted women, and no offspring the size of Biblical giants has ever resulted from these unions. If, as some teach, giants were born of such unions both before and after the flood, then why do not such marriages produce that kind of offspring today? Why did this happen in every case then and never today?



4. God's law of reproduction from the beginning has been everything after its own kind. It was not possible then that giants could be produced by men and women of ordinary size (Gen. 1:11-12,21,24-25; 8:19). It took a supernatural element, the purpose and power of Satan and his angels, to make human offspring of such proportion. After giants came into being, they then produced others of like size instead of ordinary sized men (Num. 13:33; 2Sam. 21:16,18,20,22; 1Chr. 20:4-8).



5. Not only is it unscriptural but unhistorical to teach that giants came from the union of ordinary men and women. The great question has been: Where did giants get their start? Gen. 6:4 makes it clear -- from a union of the sons of God and daughters of men. If the sons of God were ordinary men in the same sense that the daughters of men were ordinary women, then we must conclude four things:



(1) Ungodly women have the power to produce such monsters if married to godly men.



(2) Godly men have the power to produce giants when married to ungodly women.



(3) A mixture of godliness and wickedness produces giants.



(4) Extreme wickedness on the part of either parent will produce giant offspring.

All four conclusions are wrong, however, as proven every day by the ordinary offspring of wicked and godly parents. Thus, the theory that giants came from the marriage of Seth's sons with Cain's daughters is disproved.



6. The sons of God could not have been the sons of Seth or other godly men for the following seven reasons:



(1) There were no men godly enough to be saved during the Antediluvian Age except Abel (Gen. 4:4; Heb. 11:4), Enoch (Gen. 5:21-24; Heb. 11:5), and Noah (Gen. 6:8; 7:1; Heb. 11:7), as far as Scripture is concerned. Shall we conclude that these three men were the sons of God who married the daughters of Cain and produced races of giants in the earth in those days before the flood (Gen. 6:4)? We have no record of any marriage or offspring of Abel before he was murdered. Regarding Enoch, are we to believe that Methuselah and his other children were the giants? Are we to believe that Noah's three sons -- Shem, Ham, and Japheth -- were giants? If so, where is our authority for this? Had this been true, there would have been nothing on earth after the flood but giants, for by Noah's children the whole earth was replenished (Gen. 10). That would cause another unsolved mystery -- how giants became ordinary sized men again.



(2) The time of the marriages of the sons of God disproves the theory that they were the sons of Seth. Marriages of Seth's sons could not have taken place during the first 325 years. He had only one son of marriageable age up to that time (Gen. 5:1-8) and he (Enos) was not godly (see The Line of Seth). To say there were no such marriages before Enos contradicts Gen. 6:1-2 which shows that sons of God married daughters of men when they began to be born. Shall we conclude that daughters were not born in the first 325 years? If so, where did Cain, Seth and others get their wives?

Furthermore, such marriages between godly sons and ungodly daughters could not have been during the last 600 years before the flood, because Noah was the only son of God by righteousness during this time (Gen. 6:8-9; 7:1; 2Pet. 2:4-5). His sons were preserved in the ark because of being pure Adamite stock, not because of personal righteousness. The above facts then limit these marriages to the 731 years between the first 325 years and the last 600 of the Antediluvian Age, whereas sons of God actually married daughters of men throughout the entire 1,656 years of that age. Gen. 6:1-2 makes it clear that this happened "when men began to multiply on the face of the earth."



(3) Gen. 6:4 teaches that there were giants on the earth "in those days" (before the flood), "and also after that" (after those days which were before the flood), as a result of the sons of God marrying the daughters of men. If the sons of God were the sons of Seth, we can account for them "after that" (after the flood), for the line of Seth was continued through Noah. But with the daughters of Cain (supposed by some to be the daughters of men) the story is different. Cain's line perished in the flood, which means there were no daughters of Cain after the flood for sons of God to marry.



(4) The Bible gives us no reason to believe that the statement "the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair" should be limited to Cain's daughters. Thousands of families from the many branches of the race both before and after the flood had daughters too. In the 1,656 years before the flood (which is the period in which Seth and Cain lived), there must have been from 150 million to 500 million people. It is unbelievable that so many as half of these were godly and half ungodly; and we know that they were not limited to two lines -- the line of Seth and the line of Cain. Regarding Seth's daughters we have reason to believe that they were as fair as the daughters of Cain -- beautiful enough to attract men as husbands for themselves. The line of Seth alone survived the flood, so we know this is true. Gen. 6:1-2 therefore, cannot be said to refer only to the daughters of Cain; and the term "daughters of men" cannot be limited to the daughters of Cain.



(5) The very expressions "sons of God" and "daughters of men" indicate two different kinds -- one the product of God, the other the product of man. Seth was not God, so why call the sons of God the sons of Seth?

 

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(6) It is a matter of record that Seth's children were as ungodly as Cain's. The firstborn of Seth even started idolatry, as proven in The Line of Seth.



(7) With the exception of Noah and his family all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth before the flood (Gen. 6:12), which means the entire race (besides Noah's family) had become a mixture of fallen angels and men, or giants. Only Noah and his family had kept their lineage pure from Adam, which is really why they were saved in the ark. They were the only ones capable of giving the race a new, clean start after the flood. It is said of Noah that he was a just man and perfect in his generations (Gen. 6:9). The Hebrew for "perfect" is tamiym (HSN-<H8549>), which means without blemish. It is the technical word for physical perfection, not moral perfection. It is so used of the sacrificial animals of the Old Testament which had to be of pure stock and without blemish (Ex. 12:5; 29:1; Lev. 1:3; 3:1-6; 4:3,23-32; 5:15-18; 6:6; 9:2-3; Ezek. 43:22-25; 45:18-23), without spot (Num. 19:2; 28:3-11; 29:17,26), and undefiled (Ps. 119:1). Used of Noah, this word means that he and his sons were the only pure Adamites left, and for such purity, they (regardless of their position in personal holiness) were all preserved in the ark.



Proofs that the Sons of God Were Angels:



Since the sons of God in Gen. 6 cannot be the sons of Seth or the offspring of godly men and ungodly women, they must be fallen angels. This is clear from many scriptures:



1. The expression "sons of God" is found only five times in the Old Testament and every time it is used of angels (Gen. 6:1-4; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7). It is indisputable that the passages in Job refer to angels. Dan. 3:25,28 calls an angel "the son of God." Is it not possible then, that the sons of God of Gen. 6 could be angels?



2. Some translations (the Septuagint, Moffatt, and others) read, "angels of God" in Gen. 6:1-4, which is the only idea that harmonizes with this passage and many other.



3. Josephus says, "many angels of God accompanied with women, and begat sons that proved unjust, and despisers of all that was good, on account of the confidence they had in their own strength ... these men did what resembled the acts of those whom the Grecians call giants" (Antiquities, Book 1,3:1). Again he says, "There were till then left the race of giants, who had bodies so large, and countenances so entirely different from other men, that they were surprising to the sight, and terrible to the hearing. The bones of these men are still shown to this very day" (Antiquities, Book 5,2:3).



4. The Ante-Nicene Fathers also refer to angels as falling "into impure love of virgins, and were subjugated by the flesh. Of these lovers of virgins, therefore, were begotten those who are called giants" (vol. 2, p. 142; vol. 8, p. 85,273). Justyn Martyr (A.D. 110-165) says, "But the angels transgressed ... were captivated by love of women, and begat children" (vol. 2, p. 190). Methodius (A.D. 260-312) says, "the devil was insolent ... as also those (angels) who were enamoured of fleshly charms, and had illicit intercourse with the daughters of men" (vol. 6, p. 370).



5. Both testaments teach that some angels committed sexual sins and lived contrary to nature. Gen. 6:1-4 gives the history of such sinning. 2Pet. 2:4-5 says that angels sinned before the flood and were cast down to hell to be reserved until judgment. It doesn't reveal the sin as fornication, but Jude 1:6-7 does, saying, "the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha , and the cities about them in like manner (as did the angels), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." If Sodom, Gomorrha and other cities lived contrary to nature and committed fornication, as the angels did, then it is clear that the sin of angels was fornication. According to Gen. 6, this sexual sin was committed with "daughters of men." See notes on 2Pet. 2:4; Jude 1:6-7.



6. The one scripture used to teach that angels are sexless (Mt. 22:30) doesn't say they are. It states that "in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven." The purpose of this verse is to show that resurrected men and women do not marry to keep their kind in existence. In the resurrected state they live forever, but not as sexless beings. The Bible teaches that every person will continue bodily as he was born, throughout eternity. Paul said that everyone will have his own body in the resurrection (1Cor. 15:35-38). Both males and females will be resurrected as such, though their bodies will be changed from mortality to immortality (1Cor. 15:35-54). There is nothing in the resurrection to uncreate men and women. Christ remained a man after His resurrection and so will all other males.

Throughout Scripture angels are spoken of as men. No female angels are on record. It is logical to say then that the female was created specifically to keep the human race in existence; and that all angels were created males, inasmuch as their kind exists without reproduction. Angels were created innumerable to start with (Heb. 12:22), whereas humanity began with one pair, Adam and Eve, who were commanded to reproduce and make multitudes. That angels have tangible spirit bodies, appear as men, and perform acts surpassing those of the human male is clear from many passages. See note, Heb. 13:2.

When Jude states that some angels "kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation" (Jude 1:6), he makes it understandable how a sexual sin could be accomplished by them. The Greek word for "habitation" is oiketerion (GSN-<G3613>). It is used only twice in Scripture: of the bodies of men being changed to spiritual bodies (2Cor. 5:2), and the angels having a bodily change, or at least a lowering of themselves in some way (Jude 1:6-7). Thus, the New Testament helps explain the history of the Old Testament



7. There are two classes of fallen angels -- those loose with Satan who will be cast down to earth during the future tribulation (Rev. 12:7-12), and those who are now bound in hell for committing fornication (2Pet. 2:4; Jude 1:6-7). Had the ones in hell not committed the additional sin of fornication, they would still be loose with the others to help Satan in the future. Their confinement proves they committed a sin besides that of original rebellion with Satan. That it was sexual sin is clear from 2Pet. 2:4 and Jude 1:6-7, which identifies this class of fallen angels as the sons of God of Gen. 6:1-4.



8. In 1Pet. 3:19-20 we see that Christ "went and preached unto the spirits in prison; which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing." Who are these spirits in prison, if not the confined angels who at one time lived contrary to their nature -- in sin with the daughters of men (Gen. 6:1-4)? We read "Who maketh his angels spirits" (Ps. 104:4; Heb. 1:13-14). If angels are spirits, we conclude that the imprisoned spirits Christ preached to were angels and the sons of God referred to in Gen. 6, especially since they "were disobedient ... in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing." The very purpose of Noah's flood was to destroy the giant offspring of these angels known as the sons of God who "came in unto the daughters of men." See Ten Proofs Spirits Are Angels.



The Purpose of Satan in Producing Giants:



It was the purpose of Satan and his fallen angels to corrupt the human race and thereby do away with pure Adamite stock through whom the Seed of the woman should come. This would avert their own doom and make it possible for Satan and his kingdom to keep control of the earth indefinitely. It was said to Adam and Eve that the Seed of the woman would defeat Satan and restore man's dominion (Gen. 3:15). The only way for Satan to avoid this predicted defeat was to corrupt the pure Adamite line so that the coming of the Seed of the woman into the world would be made impossible. This he tried to accomplish by sending fallen angels to marry the daughters of men (Gen. 6:1-4), thus producing the giant nations through them.



There are two episodes with fallen angels taught in Gen. 6:4. There were giants in the earth "in those days (before the flood), and also after that (after the flood), when the sons of God (fallen angels) came in unto the daughters of men (any daughters of men -- Cain, Seth and others), and they bare children to them (to the angels)."



Satan almost succeeded in his plan during the first episode, for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth; of all the multitudes Noah and his sons were the only pure Adamites left to be preserved by the ark (Gen. 6:8-13; 1Pet. 3:19-20). The main object of the flood was to do away with this Satanic corruption, destroy the giants, and preserve the pure Adamite line, thus guaranteeing of the coming of the Seed of the woman, as God planned.



Being defeated before the flood didn't stop Satan from making a further attempt to prevent the coming of the Redeemer who would be his final downfall. It was now to his advantage that God had promised never to send another universal flood upon the earth. Satan therefore reasoned that he should make a second attempt to do away with the Adamite line. If he came within "eight souls" of doing it before the flood, his opportunities were now even greater with the promise that there would be no such flood. This is the reason the second group of fallen angels married the daughters of men. Again the unions produced giants whose races occupied the land of promise -- where the Seed should be born -- in advance of Abraham. Limited by His promise of no flood, God had to destroy the giants another way. This explains why He commanded Israel to kill every one of them, even to the last man, woman and child. It also explains why He destroyed all the men, women and children besides Noah and his family, at the time of the flood it answers the skeptics' question regarding why children were taken away with adults in the flood. God had to end this corruption entirely to fulfill His eternal plan and give the world its promised Redeemer. The Redeemer has come now, so Satan is reserving his forces for a last stand at the second coming of Christ.



Thus, it is clear from Scripture that there were giants in the earth both before and after the flood and that they came from a union of fallen angels and the daughters of men.





b [in those days] The days of Noah before the flood. There were giants "in those days" and "also after that," i.e., after the flood.



c [when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown] This verse reveals three facts:



1. Fallen angels married earthly women twice -- before and after Noah's flood



2. Both times these angels fathered children by the women.



3. All those children were giants.



d [daughters of men] Not the daughters of Cain as supposed, for no daughters of Cain could be on this side of the flood. They were all killed by the flood (Gen. 6:18; 7:7; 8:18; 9:1; 1Pet. 3:20).



e [they bare children to them] Women had children by both fallen angels and men. It wasn't necessary to emphasize children by men, but having children by angels was significant (Gen. 6:4; Jude 1:6-7). Because of this sin "it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth" (Gen. 6:1-6).



f [renown] Hebrew: shem (HSN-<H8034>), men of name, honor, and authority (Num. 16:2; Ezek. 16:14-15; 34:29; 39:13; Dan. 9:15). The giants became the heroes of Greek mythology as Biblical truth became corrupted by transmission. See Giants and the Sons of God.

—Dake's Study Notes

 

[ronniechoate34]

I don't know. The pastor who talked me out of believing that the Sons of God were the angels is starting to really cause me to question his motives. I really thought a lot of him but now he seems creepy and deceitful, even sort of hateful at time.


It's funny that this topic keeps coming up. At least to me it is.

 

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I don't know. The pastor who talked me out of believing that the Sons of God were the angels is starting to really cause me to question his motives. I really thought a lot of him but now he seems creepy and deceitful, even sort of hateful at time.


It's funny that this topic keeps coming up. At least to me it is.

take the signs bro..........Just a little food for though,,,I think one of the poster "Researcher" mentioned this,,,,,,,

That the sons of God in the old testament are already refered to angels,,,,because Christ had not came and made us sons of God yet.....

SO in the new testament sons of God can mean people,,,but in the Old testament it always means angles......Somethimes very bad angels..........

 

[ronniechoate34]

I don't know. The pastor who talked me out of believing that the Sons of God were the angels is starting to really cause me to question his motives. I really thought a lot of him but now he seems creepy and deceitful, even sort of hateful at time.


It's funny that this topic keeps coming up. At least to me it is.

take the signs bro..........Just a little food for though,,,I think one of the poster "Researcher" mentioned this,,,,,,,

That the sons of God in the old testament are already refered to angels,,,,because Christ had not came and made us sons of God yet.....

SO in the new testament sons of God can mean people,,,but in the Old testament it always means angles......Somethimes very bad angels..........

Joh:1:12: But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


Yup, I thought about this verse too. It's too bad. I really liked this pastor and now I don't know for sure. I have tuned him out though. I can't say for sure but this guy seems to be right on the inside of something that he kept denouncing.

 

[(THE)]

I don't know. The pastor who talked me out of believing that the Sons of God were the angels is starting to really cause me to question his motives. I really thought a lot of him but now he seems creepy and deceitful, even sort of hateful at time.


It's funny that this topic keeps coming up. At least to me it is.

take the signs bro..........Just a little food for though,,,I think one of the poster "Researcher" mentioned this,,,,,,,

That the sons of God in the old testament are already refered to angels,,,,because Christ had not came and made us sons of God yet.....

SO in the new testament sons of God can mean people,,,but in the Old testament it always means angles......Somethimes very bad angels..........

Joh:1:12: But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


Yup, I thought about this verse too. It's too bad. I really liked this pastor and now I don't know for sure. I have tuned him out though. I can't say for sure but this guy seems to be right on the inside of something that he kept denouncing.

Maybe he is a good pastor and just wrong on this issue......Or maybe you could even do your research and discuss it with him.....

I personally wouldnt (just me) wouldnt listen to him because I believe understanding who ,,and what the sons of God did,,,and understand who told them to do it,,,,is a big part of the bible..... To big for most people to handle.........

 

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The doctrine of "sons of God" is a very prominent one in both Testaments. Angels (Gen. 6:1-4; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7) and men are called sons of God (Deut. 32:18; Ps. 82:6; Rom.8:14-21; Gal. 4:28-30; 1 John 3:1; etc.). Adam was the only son of God by creation (Luke 3:38). Adam's sons are adopted into the family of God by the process of redemption. Men never become the sons of God in the same sense that Jesus did, for He is the only begotten Son of God (John 1:14, 18; 3:16-18). The new birth then is not the bringing into existence of a person but merely the cleansing of that individual from sin and renewing him spiritually by faith in the atonement—Dake's Topics

The book of Enoch is specific about the rebellious angels in the first few chapters alone
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/eth ... index.html

 

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The doctrine of "sons of God" is a very prominent one in both Testaments. Angels (Gen. 6:1-4; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7) and men are called sons of God (Deut. 32:18; Ps. 82:6; Rom.8:14-21; Gal. 4:28-30; 1 John 3:1; etc.). Adam was the only son of God by creation (Luke 3:38). Adam's sons are adopted into the family of God by the process of redemption. Men never become the sons of God in the same sense that Jesus did, for He is the only begotten Son of God (John 1:14, 18; 3:16-18). The new birth then is not the bringing into existence of a person but merely the cleansing of that individual from sin and renewing him spiritually by faith in the atonement—Dake's Topics

The book of Enoch is specific about the rebellious angels in the first few chapters alone
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/eth ... index.html

Not only the book of Enoch,,,but the book Jubilees does to,,,,,I dont really bring up the book of Enoch and Jubilees that much because are like :nag its not in the bible :nag it doesnt count :nag ,,,,,,,but I think we can get interesting facts the book of Enoch......

Jubilees 4:21 And he was therefore with the angels of God six jubilees of years. And they showed him everything which is on earth and in the heavens, the dominion of the sun. And he wrote everything,

Jubilees 4:22 And bore witness to the Watchers, the ones who sinned with the daughters of men because they began to mingle themselves with the daughters of men so that they might be polluted. And Enoch bore witness against them all.

CRAZy

 

[Benoni]

The “us†is Elohim which you are correct BUT has nothing to do with the doctrine of the trinity but is one of the many names of God; this word is used all though out the Bible.

It spelling or interpreted in scripture and Elohim is spelled both “god†and “Godâ€.

There is no mention of the word trinity in the word Elohim; Elohim

The name of God “Elohim†The only name used in the first chapter of Genesis, is GOD, or Elohim. This is the name we need to know before all others. And I declare, His children would have more peace if they knew it! Elohim, in the Hebrew, means "to swear." It describes One who stands i n a covenant-relationship ratified by an oath. Psalm 110:4 says, "The Lord sware and will not repent. . . "and this was prior to creation. So, before He even made man, God made a covenant concerning him! Under this name we see God, according to His own will, working on a dark and ruined creation till, by His Word, all is set in order and made very good. He brings back His light and life and then His image into the creature. In virtue of His own nature and covenant-relationship to His creation, He can never leave it, fallen as it is, till all again is very good.

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. . . " Gen. 1:26. This was God’s covenant with man. This was His purpose for making man — to have a visible expression of Himself!" "But," you may object, "the fall changed all that! Now man is but a fallen creature." I must answer that when God made covenant it was not dependent upon man’s keeping any part. It was strictly made on God’s part —an act of His will. This is proven by the statement: "Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things. . . but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundations of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you" I Peter 1:20. God knew that man would fail and fall and had made provision for that before it happened! Elohim is God in covenant. His people may not know it, but God has said ,My covenant will I not break, nor alter the word that is gone out of My lips" Psa.89:34.

When He assures us that He will be "our God" (Isa.40:1), He means: "For this is the covenant . . . I will put my laws into their minds, and in their heart will I write them; and I will be unto them a God and they shall be to Me a people" Heb. 8:10. God has sworn — pledging His Word both for Himself and for His creation. God promises for both parts — saying "I will" and "I shall." He loves, first of all, in virtue of relationship, which does not even consider our sinful condition. "For while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

If we are not children (sons) of God; then what are we? (Who are the morning stars; note plural. Jesus was called the Bright and morning star; that would be my answer Job 38:6-8 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? I understand this does not fit a lot of old wine skins; but there is something here.

Son’s of God mentioned eleven times in the Bible without hardly digging past all the bad interpretations. You would have to do a pretty deep and lengthy study on the word Elohim; which I admit would be deep and fascinating. Sons of Elohim; son’s of God; yes that is what the scripture is saying; note Job 1:6.

Look a little deeper at Ps. 82 and notice how the word Elohim was used with both a capital G and lower case; same word same meaning both Strong’s 430 and this has happen all thought out the KJV and who know what other translation.

Ps 82:6-8 6 "I said, 'You are "gods"; (Elohim) you are all sons of the Most High.' 7 But you will die like mere men; you will fall like every other ruler." 8 Rise up, O God (Elohim) , judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.

Job1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God (Sons of Elohim) came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Son: Heb. OT:1121
ben (bane); from OT:1129; a son (as a builder of the family name), in the widest sense (of literal and figurative relationship, including grandson, subject, nation, quality or condition, etc., [like OT:1, OT:251, etc.]):
God:

OT:430
elohiym (el-o-heem'); plural of OT:433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:

 

[XTruth]

The doctrine of "sons of God" is a very prominent one in both Testaments. Angels (Gen. 6:1-4; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7) and men are called sons of God (Deut. 32:18; Ps. 82:6; Rom.8:14-21; Gal. 4:28-30; 1 John 3:1; etc.). Adam was the only son of God by creation (Luke 3:38). Adam's sons are adopted into the family of God by the process of redemption. Men never become the sons of God in the same sense that Jesus did, for He is the only begotten Son of God (John 1:14, 18; 3:16-18). The new birth then is not the bringing into existence of a person but merely the cleansing of that individual from sin and renewing him spiritually by faith in the atonement—Dake's Topics

The book of Enoch is specific about the rebellious angels in the first few chapters alone
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/eth ... index.html

Not only the book of Enoch,,,but the book Jubilees does to,,,,,I dont really bring up the book of Enoch and Jubilees that much because are like :nag its not in the bible :nag it doesnt count :nag ,,,,,,,but I think we can get interesting facts the book of Enoch......


Jubilees 4:21 And he was therefore with the angels of God six jubilees of years. And they showed him everything which is on earth and in the heavens, the dominion of the sun. And he wrote everything,

Jubilees 4:22 And bore witness to the Watchers, the ones who sinned with the daughters of men because they began to mingle themselves with the daughters of men so that they might be polluted. And Enoch bore witness against them all.

CRAZy

Agreed, The book of Enoch isn't in the canon so we can't hold it as high in authority as the 66 books we do have in our Bible, but the Book of Enoch is quoted from in Jude 14-15 so it must be looked at as having truth. I've read it all and have found nothing that condradicts Scripture... it seems to only be more detailed about many subjects the Bible leaves us w/ more questions about. Enoch speaks about the second coming of Christ before ever mentioning the first coming... its a very interesting read... reads more like the New Testament than the Old; deals mostly w the last 7 years of this age.

 

[ronniechoate34]

The doctrine of "sons of God" is a very prominent one in both Testaments. Angels (Gen. 6:1-4; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7) and men are called sons of God (Deut. 32:18; Ps. 82:6; Rom.8:14-21; Gal. 4:28-30; 1 John 3:1; etc.). Adam was the only son of God by creation (Luke 3:38). Adam's sons are adopted into the family of God by the process of redemption. Men never become the sons of God in the same sense that Jesus did, for He is the only begotten Son of God (John 1:14, 18; 3:16-18). The new birth then is not the bringing into existence of a person but merely the cleansing of that individual from sin and renewing him spiritually by faith in the atonement—Dake's Topics

The book of Enoch is specific about the rebellious angels in the first few chapters alone
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/eth ... index.html

Not only the book of Enoch,,,but the book Jubilees does to,,,,,I dont really bring up the book of Enoch and Jubilees that much because are like :nag its not in the bible :nag it doesnt count :nag ,,,,,,,but I think we can get interesting facts the book of Enoch......

Jubilees 4:21 And he was therefore with the angels of God six jubilees of years. And they showed him everything which is on earth and in the heavens, the dominion of the sun. And he wrote everything,

Jubilees 4:22 And bore witness to the Watchers, the ones who sinned with the daughters of men because they began to mingle themselves with the daughters of men so that they might be polluted. And Enoch bore witness against them all.

CRAZy

I don't believe in the apocrypha. Too many things in them that are askew from reality and the Word of God. I have seen truth in them but that does not surprise me because the devil is the master of disinformation.

 

[ronniechoate34]

The doctrine of "sons of God" is a very prominent one in both Testaments. Angels (Gen. 6:1-4; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7) and men are called sons of God (Deut. 32:18; Ps. 82:6; Rom.8:14-21; Gal. 4:28-30; 1 John 3:1; etc.). Adam was the only son of God by creation (Luke 3:38). Adam's sons are adopted into the family of God by the process of redemption. Men never become the sons of God in the same sense that Jesus did, for He is the only begotten Son of God (John 1:14, 18; 3:16-18). The new birth then is not the bringing into existence of a person but merely the cleansing of that individual from sin and renewing him spiritually by faith in the atonement—Dake's Topics

The book of Enoch is specific about the rebellious angels in the first few chapters alone
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/eth ... index.html

Not only the book of Enoch,,,but the book Jubilees does to,,,,,I dont really bring up the book of Enoch and Jubilees that much because are like :nag its not in the bible :nag it doesnt count :nag ,,,,,,,but I think we can get interesting facts the book of Enoch......


Jubilees 4:21 And he was therefore with the angels of God six jubilees of years. And they showed him everything which is on earth and in the heavens, the dominion of the sun. And he wrote everything,

Jubilees 4:22 And bore witness to the Watchers, the ones who sinned with the daughters of men because they began to mingle themselves with the daughters of men so that they might be polluted. And Enoch bore witness against them all.

CRAZy

Agreed, The book of Enoch isn't in the canon so we can't hold it as high in authority as the 66 books we do have in our Bible, but the Book of Enoch is quoted from in Jude 14-15 so it must be looked at as having truth. I've read it all and have found nothing that condradicts Scripture... it seems to only be more detailed about many subjects the Bible leaves us w/ more questions about. Enoch speaks about the second coming of Christ before ever mentioning the first coming... its a very interesting read... reads more like the New Testament than the Old; deals mostly w the last 7 years of this age.

That throws me that the Book of Enoch is quoted in Jude. Some of the things written in that book appear to be speaking directly to us. I know this is off topic but I have a quick question about the Book of Enoch. Isn't there something in the Book of Enoch about men who write down ungodly words so that when other men hear them spoken they will treat their neighbors ungodly?

 

[ronniechoate34]

Here it is.


Woe to you who rejoice in the tribulation 14 of the righteous; for no grave shall be dug for you. Woe to you who set at nought the words of 15 the righteous; for ye shall have no hope of life. Woe to you who write down lying and godless words; for they write down their lies that men may hear them and act godlessly towards (their) 16 neighbour. Therefore they shall have no peace but die a sudden death.


sorry i forgot the link. if you need it i can provide it just post for it.

 

[westtexas]

That throws me that the Book of Enoch is quoted in Jude.

Let me give you something to think about Ronnie. The Book of Enoch is not necessarily quoted in Jude. What the scripture says is ("And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,--Jude 14 KJV") This could have been oral tradition passed down thru the years. Obviously, Enoch prophesied this because scripture says he did, but scripture doesn't say it was a written prophesy. Elsewhere you will see-as was written by the prophets or as was written in the law or as was written etc., etc.,- That is not what Jude says.
Just my 2 cents worth, Westtexas

 

[XTruth]

That throws me that the Book of Enoch is quoted in Jude.

Let me give you something to think about Ronnie. The Book of Enoch is not necessarily quoted in Jude. What the scripture says is ("And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,--Jude 14 KJV") This could have been oral tradition passed down thru the years. Obviously, Enoch prophesied this because scripture says he did, but scripture doesn't say it was a written prophesy. Elsewhere you will see-as was written by the prophets or as was written in the law or as was written etc., etc.,- That is not what Jude says.
Just my 2 cents worth, Westtexas

It is a real quote......

JUDE 14-15
"14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. "

1 ENOCH 1:9
"9 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones
To execute judgement upon all,
And to destroy all the ungodly:

And to convict all flesh
Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed,
And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."

 

[tim-from-pa]

Angelic-human hybrids, the book of Enoch, the flood, are all subjects that interest me deeply. Understanding this is the very foundation of understanding what the bible is all about.

I once read an apocryphal story (that I believe can be backed up biblically, but the bible is coded so one has to "dig" for it) that Adam was created as a mere clay being in place of Lucifer who once ruled this planet but due to his sin became a waste and desolation (between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2). When God created Adam, he told all the angels to worship Adam (c.f. Hebrews 1:6 spoke of Christ, but Christ became all that Adam was supposed to have become). Satan was not about to worship a mere clay being, so he started right then and there to plot his demise.

The truth is, Adam was created to become as God, a God-being higher than the angels (as Hebrews clearly points out). If angels were not able to help and take proper stewardship of God's Kingdom, the idea was to create a being like unto Himself with the same mind (Spirit).

The rest is all Sunday School lessons. Eve was deceived, and Adam disobeyed by eating the forbidden fruit and they in fact turned the Lordship back over to Satan who is "the god of this world". The rest of the story becomes as UFO conspiracy sounding as any: Apparently demonic entities (or angels that fell because of this, either way it's the same) in Genesis 6 tried ruining Adam's race by interbreeding, and the wickedness was so great that this is why the flood was send to destroy all of them except for 8 people (1Peter 3:20), I.e. Noah and his wife, their 3 sons and their wives from whom all the nations in Genesis 10 (Noah's genealogy) come from. It is my opinion that the reason of course for interbreeding would be to place a Satanic element to the human race to secure permanent Lordship over the planet and thus mess up the lineage of the Second Adam to come.

However, and that being said, the verse in Genesis 6:4 gives me the chills when it says:

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Did you catch that? "and also after that". After what? After the days of Noah. What was after the days of Noah? That the sons of God came unto women and bare giants. This explains giants after the flood such as when the children of Israel tried taking the land. And this makes sense because it takes me to one of my favorite subjects--- the paranormal.

It all makes sense now, as this is why we hear stories of Poltergeists having "inappropriate contact" with women and alien's "doing reproductive experiments". In the old days it was incubus and succubus legends. Right over in the next town to me a pastor reported a dark entity (a poltergeist) touching his wife inappropriately. You have the so-called famous Smurl Poltergeist case right up from me and countless alien abduction stories. If anyone wonders why this subject is on ghost's and alien's minds, I say go back to Genesis 6--- it all fits together.

And this gets equally creepy when Jesus said, "As in the days of Noah....." oh, oh! We're in for some serious trouble! :help :crazy

 

[(THE)]

Angelic-human hybrids, the book of Enoch, the flood, are all subjects that interest me deeply. Understanding this is the very foundation of understanding what the bible is all about.

I once read an apocryphal story (that I believe can be backed up biblically, but the bible is coded so one has to "dig" for it) that Adam was created as a mere clay being in place of Lucifer who once ruled this planet but due to his sin became a waste and desolation (between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2). When God created Adam, he told all the angels to worship Adam (c.f. Hebrews 1:6 spoke of Christ, but Christ became all that Adam was supposed to have become). Satan was not about to worship a mere clay being, so he started right then and there to plot his demise.

The truth is, Adam was created to become as God, a God-being higher than the angels (as Hebrews clearly points out). If angels were not able to help and take proper stewardship of God's Kingdom, the idea was to create a being like unto Himself with the same mind (Spirit).

The rest is all Sunday School lessons. Eve was deceived, and Adam disobeyed by eating the forbidden fruit and they in fact turned the Lordship back over to Satan who is "the god of this world". The rest of the story becomes as UFO conspiracy sounding as any: Apparently demonic entities (or angels that fell because of this, either way it's the same) in Genesis 6 tried ruining Adam's race by interbreeding, and the wickedness was so great that this is why the flood was send to destroy all of them except for 8 people (1Peter 3:20), I.e. Noah and his wife, their 3 sons and their wives from whom all the nations in Genesis 10 (Noah's genealogy) come from. It is my opinion that the reason of course for interbreeding would be to place a Satanic element to the human race to secure permanent Lordship over the planet and thus mess up the lineage of the Second Adam to come.

However, and that being said, the verse in Genesis 6:4 gives me the chills when it says:

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Did you catch that? "and also after that". After what? After the days of Noah. What was after the days of Noah? That the sons of God came unto women and bare giants. This explains giants after the flood such as when the children of Israel tried taking the land. And this makes sense because it takes me to one of my favorite subjects--- the paranormal.

It all makes sense now, as this is why we hear stories of Poltergeists having "inappropriate contact" with women and alien's "doing reproductive experiments". In the old days it was incubus and succubus legends. Right over in the next town to me a pastor reported a dark entity (a poltergeist) touching his wife inappropriately. You have the so-called famous Smurl Poltergeist case right up from me and countless alien abduction stories. If anyone wonders why this subject is on ghost's and alien's minds, I say go back to Genesis 6--- it all fits together.

And this gets equally creepy when Jesus said, "As in the days of Noah....." oh, oh! We're in for some serious trouble! :help :crazy

It is my opinion that the reason of course for interbreeding would be to place a Satanic element to the human race to secure permanent Lordship over the planet and thus mess up the lineage of the Second Adam to come.

That isnt a opinion its fact,,,,anyhow,,,,I hope people begin to understand that this idea of mating to mess up a bloodline was first orchestrated by satan in the garden....

Satan tried it first it worked,,,but Eve had a twin,,,,,so that kinda messed things up because Christ could have been born through Abel.....So Cain kills Abel ,,,after Abel died Christ didnt even have a bloodline to come through :verysad until Seth :P

 

[westtexas]

That throws me that the Book of Enoch is quoted in Jude.

Let me give you something to think about Ronnie. The Book of Enoch is not necessarily quoted in Jude. What the scripture says is ("And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,--Jude 14 KJV") This could have been oral tradition passed down thru the years. Obviously, Enoch prophesied this because scripture says he did, but scripture doesn't say it was a written prophesy. Elsewhere you will see-as was written by the prophets or as was written in the law or as was written etc., etc.,- That is not what Jude says.
Just my 2 cents worth, Westtexas

It is a real quote......

JUDE 14-15
"14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. "

1 ENOCH 1:9
"9 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones
To execute judgement upon all,
And to destroy all the ungodly:

And to convict all flesh
Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed,
And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."

You didn't read what I wrote. I don't disagree that it is a quote from Enoch. The question is whether or not this quote is from the Book of Enoch. The problem is that people use this verse to justify the entire Book of Enoch by saying "It is quoted in the Book of Jude" so it must be a true and reliable book. Jude did not say "as was written in the Book of Enoch". He said, "Enoch prophesied, saying,". Jude does not say this quote comes from the Book of Enoch or even that it was a written prophesy. Obviously Enoch said this because scripture says he did, so that makes these verses in 1 Enoch true because they agree with scripture. The rest of the book is just interesting reading. I enjoy reading the pseudographic and apocryphal books, but if they are not backed up by scripture that is all they are, interesting reading.
Westtexas

edited because I can't spell

 

[prough91]

You didn't read what I wrote. I don't disagree that it is a quote from Enoch. The question is whether or not this quote is from the Book of Enoch. The problem is that people use this verse to justify the entire Book of Enoch by saying "It is quoted in the Book of Jude" so it must be a true and reliable book. Jude did not say "as was written in the Book of Enoch". He said, "Enoch prophesied, saying,". Jude does not say this quote comes from the Book of Enoch or even that it was a written prophesy. Obviously Enoch said this because scripture says he did, so that makes these verses in 1 Enoch true because they agree with scripture. The rest of the book is just interesting reading. I enjoy reading the pseudographic and apocryphal books, but if they are not backed up by scripture that is all they are, interesting reading.
Westtexas

True dat.

 

[n2thelight]

Hope this helps

23. "THE SONS OF GOD" IN GEN. 6:2, 4.

It is only by the Divine specific act of creation that any created being can be called "a son of God". For that which is "born of the flesh is flesh". God is spirit, and that which is "born of the Spirit is spirit" (John 3:6). Hence Adam is called a "son of God" in Luke 3:38. Those "in Christ" having "the new nature" which is by the direct creation of God (2Cor. 5:17. Eph. 2:10) can be, and are called "sons of God" (John 1:13. Rom. 8:14, 15. 1John 3:1). (*1)

This is why angels are called "sons of God" in every other place where the expression is used in the Old Testament. Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Ps. 29:1; 89:6. Dan. 3:25 (no art.). (*2) We have no authority or right to take the expression in Gen. 6:2, 4 in any other sense. Moreover, in Gen. 6:2 the Sept. renders it "angels".

Angels are called "spirits" (Ps. 104:4. Heb. 1:7, 14), for spirits are created by God.

That there was a fall of the angels is certain from Jude 6.

The nature of their fall is clearly stated in the same verse. They left their own oijkhthvrion (oiketerion). This word occurs only in 2Cor. 5:2 and Jude 6, where it is used of the spiritual (or resurrection) body.

The nature of their sin is stated to be "in like manner" to that of the subsequent sins of Sodom and Gomorrha, Jude 7.

The time of their fall is given as having taken place "in the days of Noah" (1Pet. 3:20. 2Pet. 2:7), though there may have been a prior fall which caused the end of "the world that then was" (Gen. 1:1, 2. 2Pet. 3:6).

For this sin they are "reserved unto judgment", 2Pet. 2:4, and are "in prison", 1Pet. 3:19.

Their progeny, called Nephilim (translated "giants"), were monsters of iniquity; and, being superhuman in size and character, had to be destroyed (see Ap. 25). This was the one and only object of the Flood.

Only Noah and his family had preserved their pedigree pure from Adam (Gen. 6:9, see note). All the rest had become "corrupt" (shachath) destroyed [as Adamites]. the only remedy was to destroy it (de facto), as it had become destroyed (de jure). (It is the same word in v. 17 as in vv. 11, 12.) See further under Ap. 25 on the Nephilim.

This irruption of fallen angels was Satan's first attempt to prevent the coming of the Seed of the woman foretold in gen. 3:15. If this could be accomplished, God's Word would have failed, and his own doom would be averted.

As soon as it was made known that the Seed of the woman was to come through ABRAHAM, there must have been another irruption, as recorded in Gen. 6:4, "and also after that" (i.e. after the days of Noah, more than 500 years after the first irruption). The aim of the enemy was to occupy Canaan in advance of Abraham, and so to contest its occupation by his seed. For, when Abraham entered Canaan, we read (Gen. 12:6) "the Canaanite was then (i.e. already) in the land."

In the same chapter (Gen. 12:10-20) we see Satan's next attempt to interfere with Abraham's seed, and frustrate the purpose of God that it should be in "Isaac". This attempt was repeated in 20:1-18.

This great conflict may be seen throughout the Bible, and it forms a great and important subject of Biblical study. In each case the human instrument had his own personal interest to serve, while Satan had his own great object in view. Hence God had, in each case, to interfere and avert the evil and the danger, of which his servants and people were wholly ignorant. The following assaults of the great Enemy stand out prominently :--

The destruction of the chosen family by famine, Gen. 50:20.

The destruction of the male line in Israel, Ex. 1:10, 15, &c. Cp. Ex. 2:5. Heb. 11:23.

The destruction of the whole nation in Pharaoh's pursuit, Ex. 14.

After David's line was singled out (2Sam. 7), that was the next selected for assault. Satan's first assault was in the union of Jehoram and Athaliah by Jehoshaphat, notwithstanding 2Chron. 17:1. Jehoram killed off all his brothers (2Chron. 21:4).

The Arabians slew all his children, except Ahaziah (2Chron. 21:17; 22:1).

When Ahaziah died, Athaliah killed "all the seed royal" (2Chron. 22:10). the babe Joash alone was rescued; and, for six years, the faithfulness of Jehovah's word was at stake (2Chron. 23:3).

Hezekiah was childless, when a double assault was made by the King of Assyria and the King of Terrors (Isa. 36:1; 38:1). God's faithfulness was appealed to and relied on (Ps. 136).

In Captivity, Haman was used to attempt the destruction of the whole nation (Est. 3:6, 12, 13. Cp. 6:1).

Joseph's fear was worked on (Matt. 1:18-20). Notwithstanding the fact that he was "a just man", and kept the Law, he did not wish to have Mary stoned to death (Deut. 24:1); hence Joseph determined to divorce her. But God intervened : "Fear not".

Herod sought the young Child's life (Matt. 2).

At the Temptation, "Cast Thyself down" was Satan's temptation.

At Nazareth, again (Luke 4), there was another attempt to cast Him down and destroy Him.

The two storms on the Lake were other attempts.

At length the cross was reached, and the sepulcher closed; the watch set; and the stone sealed. But "God raised Him from the dead." And now, like another Joash, He is seated and expecting (Heb. 10:12, 13), hidden in the house of God on high; and the members of "the one body" are hidden there "in Him" (Col. 3:1-3), like another Jehoshaba; and going forth to witness of His coming, like another Jehoiada (2Chron. 23:3).

The irruption of "the fallen angels" ("sons of God") was the first attempt; and was directed against the whole human race.

When Abraham was called, then he and his seed were attacked.

When David was enthroned, then the royal line were attacked.

And when "the Seed of the woman" Himself came, then the storm burst upon Him.


Appendixe 23 to The Companion Bible
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