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[ironmonk]

I said some unpleasant things here and I am sorry. I am still in alot of pain but I know I must return to god. I don't know anything about anything except that I am in need of a doctor, but the ones on earth are no good. So I must return to Jesus and learn from him or else I think I might go insane. Already I feel strengthened but I must not turn away or my heart will fail me.

 

[reba]

Thank you!
Trusting in some one you do not see with the natural eye can be difficult . Some time when i get all riled up i think on this...

Psa_46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: . . . .

 

[JLB]

I said some unpleasant things here and I am sorry. I am still in alot of pain but I know I must return to god. I don't know anything about anything except that I am in need of a doctor, but the ones on earth are no good. So I must return to Jesus and learn from him or else I think I might go insane. Already I feel strengthened but I must not turn away or my heart will fail me.

He will never leave you nor forsake you no matter how you feel.

He loves you dearly.

Be encouraged.


JLB

 

[Mike S]

I said some unpleasant things here and I am sorry. I am still in alot of pain but I know I must return to god. I don't know anything about anything except that I am in need of a doctor, but the ones on earth are no good. So I must return to Jesus and learn from him or else I think I might go insane. Already I feel strengthened but I must not turn away or my heart will fail me.

We're praying for you, Christopher, we all lose our way at times. Remember three words "Jesus, save me."

 

[Deborah13]

New American Standard Version

Romans 5
6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. 11 And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.

2 Corinthians 5
17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. 18 Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. 21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

 

[Eugene]

Dear christophercomplex, I have went back through all your posts and not found anything that was terribly out of line such as some trolls bring to us. You have been above board, asked for help, and we have failed you so far. You are hurting and to many of us that’s how we first began seeking an answer.

I wrote the following pamphlet posted in three parts I hope will give you the answer as to whether you ever were a Christian, and still are. May God bless it to your mental and spiritual health in Jesus’ name.

Salvation with Security – 1, 2, 3
http://www.christianforums.net/Fell...ds/salvation-with-security-parts-1-2-3.52236/

 

[Sandy Zalecki]

You have posted nothing to be sorry for. You are hurting and seeking right now. Remember, what you seek you will find. If He is on your heart, He has touched you. He is just waiting for you to say yes, and He will come into your heart. He is the answer to all the hurt you have.

 

[ironmonk]

Thanks for all your replies, its nice to see open hearts. I feel so strange right now, It's like a awfull feeling I have been lied to since birth. For years I been watching all the atheist on YouTube and believing that faith was opposite to evidence. Now I don't know what faith is but I awoke today to a thought about it. I thought, I need faith because I am blinded in this world and can't see one foot ahead of me.

 

[Deborah13]

Thanks for all your replies, its nice to see open hearts. I feel so strange right now, It's like a awfull feeling I have been lied to since birth. For years I been watching all the atheist on YouTube and believing that faith was opposite to evidence. Now I don't know what faith is but I awoke today to a thought about it. I thought, I need faith because I am blinded in this world and can't see one foot ahead of me.

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

He is not far from you.

 

[ironmonk]

Faith opposite to evidence?

Both are based on blind faith. If the Athiest is Science, science is a study of progress. There is no 'evidence'. Athiest is based on blind faith. They still searching for answers and knowledge. They dont hold no key to life. The best answer is a accident, a cause without reason, a miracle. That is blind faith my friend.

I spent a liitle while in the atheist camp, many atheists I met believed more than what the atheistic belief was. Atheism has nothing to do with science it's just a non belief in god(s) Neither is atheism a claim to free thinking it's just a non belief in god(s) In fact atheism is not a claim to anything but a non belief in god(s)

 

[Chopper]

Christopher my hurting friend. I think I can identify a little with you. I gave my life to Jesus in 1974. I entered Bible College in 1975 because I knew God wanted me to be a pastor. During my second year of College, all hell broke loose against me it seemed. It started with a sugar imbalance which I never had before and migraine headaches. I graduated in 1978 and was the pastor of a small country Baptist church. The headaches grew worse. Since then I arrived in Turners Falls MA. to pastor the First Baptist Church. Again, all hell broke loose with people hating the fact that I taught strictly out of the Bible. I started having heart trouble. Since then and until now I have had 2 failed spine surgeries, both hips replaced one stroke, 1 heart attack, a quadruple heart bypass, and several trips to have stints put in my heart.

I say all of this to say, God's enemy, Satan, did not like the ministry that God was doing through me and he fought me all the way. I'm retired now, but have a lot of health problems and the suggestion of a surgeon that I have colon cancer. Do I regret giving my life to Jesus Christ? NO! not in the least. Sure I'm in a lot of pain each day. I have to force my self thru each day, but somehow Jesus gets me thru. I have wanted to end my miserable life but to serve Jesus is that greatest honor and joy in the word.

Someday soon, Jesus is going to take me from my pain and take me to heaven to be with Him, and I can't wait.

Please, from one hurting person to another, give your heart to Jesus, you will never regret it, I promise. He may heal your body and circumstances, and He may not, but He will give you the strength to go thru anything that comes your way from this rotten old world....If He did it for me, He'll do it for you.

 

[Sandy Zalecki]

Christopher my hurting friend. I think I can identify a little with you. I gave my life to Jesus in 1974. I entered Bible College in 1975 because I knew God wanted me to be a pastor. During my second year of College, all hell broke loose against me it seemed. It started with a sugar imbalance which I never had before and migraine headaches. I graduated in 1978 and was the pastor of a small country Baptist church. The headaches grew worse. Since then I arrived in Turners Falls MA. to pastor the First Baptist Church. Again, all hell broke loose with people hating the fact that I taught strictly out of the Bible. I started having heart trouble. Since then and until now I have had 2 failed spine surgeries, both hips replaced one stroke, 1 heart attack, a quadruple heart bypass, and several trips to have stints put in my heart.

I say all of this to say, God's enemy, Satan, did not like the ministry that God was doing through me and he fought me all the way. I'm retired now, but have a lot of health problems and the suggestion of a surgeon that I have colon cancer. Do I regret giving my life to Jesus Christ? NO! not in the least. Sure I'm in a lot of pain each day. I have to force my self thru each day, but somehow Jesus gets me thru. I have wanted to end my miserable life but to serve Jesus is that greatest honor and joy in the word.

Someday soon, Jesus is going to take me from my pain and take me to heaven to be with Him, and I can't wait.

Please, from one hurting person to another, give your heart to Jesus, you will never regret it, I promise. He may heal your body and circumstances, and He may not, but He will give you the strength to go thru anything that comes your way from this rotten old world....If He did it for me, He'll do it for you.

I understand that. I gave my life to the Lord in 1992 and in 1994 I got poisoned by some chemicals I was working around. I went through 16 years of strange symptoms that no one could figure out or do anything about. Finally, the Lord gave me a way out and healed me. I think the devil was trying to destroy me because he knows who I am in Christ. Would I go back, never. I would not give up my salvation for anything!

 

[Deborah13]

christophercomplex

Many times we do not understand why things happen. When we give your lives to the Lord we become more than just His children. He is the King and we are His princes. When a king goes to battle his princes go with him to fight the battle, they are in the thick of things not standing back watching.

Chopper has not had an easy time of it being a prince. But the truth of it is Chopper doesn't know how many lives have been wonderfully touch by God through Chopper's faithfulness to the Lord even though he was suffering. That may have been one of the swords the Lord gave Chopper to fight the battle with. That is really an honor. The Lord knew that Chopper had the courage it took to wield that sword, not all of us are that strong.

My own relationship with the Lord is like having a father, a Dad, that is also my best friend. People can come and go from our lives. They move away, they get busy, they die, but the Lord is always there for us.
My grandson said to me when he was 7 or so. Grandma, I pray but Jesus isn't talking back to me. He had to learn to listen with his heart.

God loves you.

 

[Chopper]

christophercomplex

Many times we do not understand why things happen. When we give your lives to the Lord we become more than just His children. He is the King and we are His princes. When a king goes to battle his princes go with him to fight the battle, they are in the thick of things not standing back watching.

Chopper has not had an easy time of it being a prince. But the truth of it is Chopper doesn't know how many lives have been wonderfully touch by God through Chopper's faithfulness to the Lord even though he was suffering. That may have been one of the swords the Lord gave Chopper to fight the battle with. That is really an honor. The Lord knew that Chopper had the courage it took to wield that sword, not all of us are that strong.

My own relationship with the Lord is like having a father, a Dad, that is also my best friend. People can come and go from our lives. They move away, they get busy, they die, but the Lord is always there for us.
My grandson said to me when he was 7 or so. Grandma, I pray but Jesus isn't talking back to me. He had to learn to listen with his heart.

God loves you.

 

[for_his_glory]

Never stop asking questions for this is how we learn. Lean not unto your own understanding, but trust God in all things. You have taken the first step towards seeking God and now it's up to you to keep seeking knowledge and understanding through the Holy Spirit teaching you all things as you read the word of God to know Him and have that personal relationship with His Son, Christ Jesus. God never said it would be an easy walk as many of us know first hand and Satan will always try to come against us, but all he can do is try to steal our faith and he can only do that if we allow him to.


Psa 18:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David, the servant of the LORD, who spake unto the LORD the words of this song in the day that the LORD delivered him from the hand of all his enemies, and from the hand of Saul: And he said, I will love thee, O LORD, my strength.
Psa 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.
Psa 18:3 I will call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies.
Psa 18:4 The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly men made me afraid.
Psa 18:5 The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me.
Psa 18:6 In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears.

2Co 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
2Co 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
2Co 10:6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
2Co 10:7 Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.

 

[GrannyJ]

Hi Christopher

I've just been reading through some of your posts. It sounds like you're at the point of questioning everything; your own beliefs and everyone else's. I think this is a good starting point: you can't know what you are or what you believe without questioning and challenging. You also say that you accept Jesus's teachings as good. This is truly a rock on which you can build a house that will withold the storms. Read His teachings; ponder on them, taste how good they are and how perfect for building harmony on earth. But you need to go one step further, and realise fully the great love He had for you, personally, that made Him choose suffering and crucifixion rather than leave you in a world of confusion and insecurity.

Whether you go or stay, may God go with you and in His good time make you aware of His perfect love.

 

[Pizza]

I said some unpleasant things here and I am sorry. I am still in alot of pain but I know I must return to god. I don't know anything about anything except that I am in need of a doctor, but the ones on earth are no good. So I must return to Jesus and learn from him or else I think I might go insane. Already I feel strengthened but I must not turn away or my heart will fail me.

I have told the story here of how, at my most lowest point, I THOUGHT I had driven the Lord away. Within the hour, He spoke to me and I learned, over the next 12 hours, that He would never leave or forsake me. His point was that there was NOTHING I could do to drive Him away.

Oh, sure, we can run from Him or turn our back on Him. But HE never moves, it is us who move away. So turning back to Him is easy, and the restoration comes right away - you may not FEEL it, but it does.

My point: You have a shorter journey than you think you do.