Statements made by evangelists who claim scripture!

[electedbyHim]

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 acts 1:8 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission as Christ! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!


Spiritual Fathers have care for our souls!

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Jn 21:17 feed my sheep:

Heb 13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you

1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

That makes Paul and John spiritual fathers, pastors of our souls!

Please provide proof that Apostles exist today.

Show proof of raising the dead, divine healing, etc.

Link to said apostles websites that do this.

Do you not think that if real Apostles walked the earth today that there would be evidence somewhere?

please do not link TBN the false prophet channel.

Grace and peace to you.

 

[donadams]

Please provide proof that Apostles exist today.

Show proof of raising the dead, divine healing, etc.

Link to said apostles websites that do this.

Do you not think that if real Apostles walked the earth today that there would be evidence somewhere?

please do not link TBN the false prophet channel.

No chance of that one. Lol

Grace and peace to you.

Why do you need this kind of proof?
Matt 28:19 acts 1:8
Matt 16:18-19 Jn 2:21-23 eph 2:20
All demand successors
You have the example of the successors of Moses who must be obey according to Jesus Christ until their authority is given to the apostles. Thanks

 

[electedbyHim]

No chance of that one. Lol

Why do you need this kind of proof?
Matt 28:19 acts 1:8
Matt 16:18-19 Jn 2:21-23 eph 2:20
All demand successors
You have the example of the successors of Moses who must be obey according to Jesus Christ until their authority is given to the apostles. Thanks

Because you claim that apostles are among us today.

But that is not so.

 

[Iconoclast]

Salvation and the new covenant church do not exist today???

The truth & the church is divine and eternal and cannot change

That is not what he said

 

[donadams]

Because you claim that apostles are among us today.

But that is not so.

Then there was a no church no kingdom no possibility of salvation?
Matt 28:19-20
Jn 20:21
Jn 21:17
Acts 1:8
Acts 1:15-26
All prove the apostles continue to send apostles till the return of christ
The church is founded on a jurisdictional hierarchical authority:

Thanks

 

[donadams]

Because you claim that apostles are among us today.

But that is not so.

Jesus Christ “did not” establish a church and send the Holy Spirit to cos spiritual blindness, anarchy, and chaos!
They have changed the spirit of truth into a spirit of error, and the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church the bride of Christ into a harlot of 30,000 sects .


Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church for the salvation of all men! (Jn 1:16-17) Christ is the truth! (Jn 14:6) Christ and his church are one!
(Acts 9;4 eph 5:32)
The church is the pillar of truth
(1 Tim 3:15) that must teach all men (Matt 28:19) without error guided by the Holy Spirit
(Jn 16:13) Thru the grace of God in the sanctification of souls applied in the seven sacraments!

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42
1 Tim 3:15

Until He returns

 

[donadams]

Visible church of apostles / bishops exercises the authority of Christ!

Ignatius of Antioch speaks of a visible Church when he outlines its nature in 107, marking it, for the first time of which we have record, as the “Catholic Church”: “Where the bishop is found, there let the people be, even as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.”

Codification of the Bible. The Bible did not codify itself, did not specify which books, among many, were to be seen as inspired. A visible, authoritative body, comprised of bishops, decided the content of the canon.

The worldwide councils. Christianity’s doctrinal parameters have been charted by the ecumenical councils, now numbering 20, each conducted under the authority of the visible, universal Church. Not once in those 21 sessions did an “invisible” group of bishops meet and deliberate. 3. The Lord’s day. The Christian Sunday replaced the Saturday sabbath of the Old Testament. The visible Church made this change.

Christmas and Easter. The Bible nowhere mentions the word “Christmas” or the date for Christmas. The celebration of Christmas on December 25 was a decision of the Church. (The feast didn’t arise all by itself.) Much the same can be said for Easter as a feast separate from the other Sundays which commemorate the Resurrection. It was a visible Church, headed by a definitely locatable pope, that settled the dates of observance for the two key feasts.

The calendar. It is Christ’s visible Church, its reach extending into the secular realm, which has given us the Gregorian calendar, named after Pope Gregory XIII.

 

[donadams]

That is not what he said

Statements have consequences
Examples:
The prophet speaks for God, to believe the prophet is to believe God, to reject the prophet is to reject God who sent Him. Isa 53:1 who hath believed our report.


To believe the apostles is to believe Christ who sent them to teach and sanctify all men, Matt 28:19 to reject the apostles is to reject Christ.
To accept the church and her teaching is to accept Christ, to reject the church is to reject Christ who established the church.

 

[donadams]

Because you claim that apostles are among us today.

But that is not so.

What is the alternative to a church of apostles with authority from Christ?
A bunch of erroneous opinions the tradition of men!

Truth is revealed by God to His apostles in His church (Jude 1:3) then the church / apostles / bishops must propose these truths. (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 15:1-5)

Church / apostles are the means of transmission of the truths revealed by God in Christ. Matt 5:14 Matt 16:18-19 Matt 18:18 Matt 18:17 Matt 28:19 Jn 20:21-23 acts 1:8 acts 8:31 Lk 1:4

Jn 14:6 refers to Christ and not us, we are not and cannot be the only arbiter of truth, nor can we through private judgment (spiritual pride) give meaning and interpret scripture or decide doctrine, let humble ourselves and obey Christ and His church and be taught. Lk 1:4 Matt 11:29

The prophet speaks for God, to believe the prophet is to believe God, to reject the prophet is to reject God who sent Him. Isa 53:1 who hath believed our report.


To believe the apostles is to believe Christ who sent them to teach and sanctify all men, Matt 28:19 to reject the apostles is to reject Christ.
To accept the church and her teaching is to accept Christ, to reject the church is to reject Christ who established the church.

The person of an apostle is endowed with power and authority, not only their writings.

2 John 1:12
Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full.

The divine & apostolic tradition opposes the erroneous opinions of men, mere human tradition, or sentiments found in the five Protestant sola’s.

Rebellion and Heresy is the fruit of pride.
Humility is truth, pride is error, and falsehood.
Faithfulness and obedience are the fruit of humility.

The truth will set you free, so false doctrine enslaves you in spiritual bondage and spiritual blindness.
Jn 8:32

Blinding light of Christ vs erroneous opinions of the 16th century!