stir up the gift of GOD

[jerry63935]

2 Timothy 1:6 (NKJV)
6 Therefore I remind you fto stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands.


The Greek word translated “stir up” denotes the kindling of a fire, as by bellows. Anyone who has ever tended a campfire knows that stirring up the glowing embers of a dying fire can cause those embers to flame up again and burn more brightly. Timothy was to see to it that his spiritual gift did not grow cold through disuse; he was to “stir it up” and keep the fire going.

 

[jerry63935]

2 Timothy 1:6 (NKJV)
6 Therefore I remind you fto stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands.


The Greek word translated “stir up” denotes the kindling of a fire, as by bellows. Anyone who has ever tended a campfire knows that stirring up the glowing embers of a dying fire can cause those embers to flame up again and burn more brightly. Timothy was to see to it that his spiritual gift did not grow cold through disuse; he was to “stir it up” and keep the fire going.

lol rekindle the fire in your heart is pretty boring stuff

 

[eddif]

lol rekindle the fire in your heart is pretty boring stuff

Boring or exciting.

Start a fire from scratch.
Find:
Dry starter fiber
Dry tiny twigs
Dry larger wood
Dry limbs
Then damp wood will work
Process to start fire:
Steel and flint
Marches
Is there a breeze
Is it misty damp out

Re kindle
Take leftover carbon fire chunks
Make a little pile of the charcoal
Blow on the ember that is still glowing. Usually you get a tiny flame pretty quickly. Placed next to other chosen charcoal you can have a flame within a short time. Charcoal from a campfire usually takes off burning again.

Evidently stirring up a previous spiritual gift works the same way. The breath of the spirit causes a rekindling.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[jerry63935]

Evidently stirring up a previous spiritual gift works the same way. The breath of the spirit causes a rekindling.

the greatest gift is salvation/our relationship the Laodicean Church was neither hot nor cold. they had let the fire die down to warm ashes . the Sardis church some was alive the rest was spiritually dead .they had not put any more wood /fuel on the fire . paul wrote to timothy to stir up the gift / my point is stir up rekindle our relationship with Christ. do we still have the same amount of zeal.. is Church as exciting /the need as it once was? our prayer life ? in acts they prayed and the place was shaken/stirred up by prayer they had rekindled the fire with in. next one that probably gets us is the reading of the word? i have 2 times with the word i read it so as i can remember it 2nd my study time i go deep i search what others say abut the scripture. i look up words .. yes sometime in reading i do some research . does the word reach out and grab us...

might i add that was sarcasm on my 2nd post.. to be honest with you subjects like this is not popular in forums.. sometimes in church

 

[andy pandy]

In this respect I had a very interesting experience. I was in a meeting where some prophecies were given. A man who I did not know prophesied over me that I was being called by God to a ministry of teaching. At another meeting with different people, a man prophesied over me that I was being annointed for a teaching ministry. The following week in a different church again someone prophesied that I was being called to a teaching ministry. And finally it happened for a fourth time. None of the people that prophesied knew each other so it was totally spontaneous.

To point out I did not have a specific desire to be a teacher, but after the four prophesies I gained a desire to search the scriptures in a new way. Add to that I ended up going to university to get a post graduate degree in teaching, so it meant I was called by God and trained by the world. The secular training was very good because it taught me about things not to do if you were teaching.

As an example they taught us not to teach front of class for more than 20 minutes because after that it goes in one ear and out of the other. I actually tested this in the church and after a 45 minute sermon I asked people what they thought about it and usually they said it was very good. So I asked them what it was about and in nearly every case they could not remember but they did know it was good.

I thought that it was pointless if it was good or bad if people could not remember what was said. Mind you I am not surprised because the New Testament Church rarely preached sermons. They taught (the apostles doctrine) and utilised the time discussing and diaologing with each other.

 

[eddif]

In this respect I had a very interesting experience. I was in a meeting where some prophecies were given. A man who I did not know prophesied over me that I was being called by God to a ministry of teaching. At another meeting with different people, a man prophesied over me that I was being annointed for a teaching ministry. The following week in a different church again someone prophesied that I was being called to a teaching ministry. And finally it happened for a fourth time. None of the people that prophesied knew each other so it was totally spontaneous.

To point out I did not have a specific desire to be a teacher, but after the four prophesies I gained a desire to search the scriptures in a new way. Add to that I ended up going to university to get a post graduate degree in teaching, so it meant I was called by God and trained by the world. The secular training was very good because it taught me about things not to do if you were teaching.

As an example they taught us not to teach front of class for more than 20 minutes because after that it goes in one ear and out of the other. I actually tested this in the church and after a 45 minute sermon I asked people what they thought about it and usually they said it was very good. So I asked them what it was about and in nearly every case they could not remember but they did know it was good.

I thought that it was pointless if it was good or bad if people could not remember what was said. Mind you I am not surprised because the New Testament Church rarely preached sermons. They taught (the apostles doctrine) and utilised the time discussing and diaologing with each other.

1 Corinthians 14:24 kjv
24. But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or oneunlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
25. And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.

In speaking we should supernaturally speak to a persons inner needs. If we do not get there people will go to sleep listening to us.

And note it several people at one meeting revealing the inner heart of people.

Who are these people?:
Unbelievers
Unlearned

Not lukewarm bench warmers (redneck guess).

I suppose after that it becomes stir up that which you received.

Today part of the message should touch that inner core.
If they are repenting on the inside you should help (and others).

It does not have to be Pentecostal as such, but the power should be evident.

eddif

 

[jerry63935]

prophesied over me that I was being called by God to a ministry of teaching.

to each there own but a calling from God is spoken directly to you. He puts on your heart. all i could hear when i was dealing with being called .i listened to a radio program the opening remark was something like this God is calling you and you need to do this. on our way to a gospel singing i told my wife God had called me to preach. her words she knew it .others had told her before i did . we went to a revival saw a evang we knew..i told him his words i knew it was going to happen... IF God is calling a person you will know it. no body needs to tell you. .. but my post is about stirring up the gift salvation and yes most certainly if God has given you a gift/ teaching preaching you need stirred up. KINDLE THE FLAMES throw another log on the fire. to many running around with wet wood

 

[for_his_glory]

So many say we need revival in the land, but revival starts with ourself as we need to have that Holy Spirit fire burning within us. So many teach that the gifts died when the Apostles died, but what the Holy Spirit gives to all men/women are just alive today as they were when the Disciples first received them for the edifying and lifting up of the body of Christ.

1Cor 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Cor 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
1Cor 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
1Cor 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

 

[jerry63935]

So many teach that the gifts died when the Apostles died,

i dont think the gifts left the problem i see with the gifts in todays world is to many worship the gifts instead of the giver of the gifts when i attend any service i expect everything to be done decently and in order . not a bunch of confusion. lets face it when hear the word gifts tongues comes up every time . i am not against tongues i am against all the jabbering at one time. man thinks he can create a spirit atmosphere . if people will come in with expectations and willing just be still. listen to what God has to say through the spirit. then if it is of God we will know. we had a wonderful service last Sunday. 2 brothers and there wives visited our church.. they was saved there over 40 years ago i invited them to to testify . let me tell you from that point on ..God took over it wasnt me or the brothers or others who testified it was By my Spirit saith the Lord . i had a young man preach for me it wasnt him.. it was HIM

 

[for_his_glory]

i dont think the gifts left the problem i see with the gifts in todays world is to many worship the gifts instead of the giver of the gifts when i attend any service i expect everything to be done decently and in order . not a bunch of confusion. lets face it when hear the word gifts tongues comes up every time . i am not against tongues i am against all the jabbering at one time. man thinks he can create a spirit atmosphere . if people will come in with expectations and willing just be still. listen to what God has to say through the spirit. then if it is of God we will know. we had a wonderful service last Sunday. 2 brothers and there wives visited our church.. they was saved there over 40 years ago i invited them to to testify . let me tell you from that point on ..God took over it wasnt me or the brothers or others who testified it was By my Spirit saith the Lord . i had a young man preach for me it wasnt him.. it was HIM

You just know when the Spirit is moving as so many like to play on others emotions, or even their own that can be very deceiving.

 

[jerry63935]

You just know when the Spirit is moving as so many like to play on others emotions, or even their own that can be very deceiving.

honestly it does not take a rocket scientist to know . my biggest beef on lounges is so many are coached into to it .far to many people want a open display to capture attention for them selves . that goes for any type service/denom

 

[eddif]

honestly it does not take a rocket scientist to know . my biggest beef on lounges is so many are coached into to it .far to many people want a open display to capture attention for them selves . that goes for any type service/denom

Romans 3:1
1. What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2. Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
3. For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

This is the concept:
God used the Jews to preserve the oracles of God.
A lot of Jews worshiped idols.
Did that ruin the oracles? No.
Did all Jews worship other gods? No.

Concept of Spiritual gifts as power to witness:
A lot of people do not use tongues correctly or do them falsely.
Does that ruin the gift of tongues (or all spiritual gifts)? No.

Just 8 souls escaped the flood
Lot escaped with daughters

Sin by some does not make the spiritual gifts of no effect

eddif

 

[andy pandy]

but my post is about stirring up the gift salvation and yes most certainly if God has given you a gift/ teaching preaching you need stirred up.

It doesn't as most days I am teaching or studying the scriptures.

 

[andy pandy]

1 Corinthians 14:24 kjv
24. But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or oneunlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
25. And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.

In speaking we should supernaturally speak to a persons inner needs. If we do not get there people will go to sleep listening to us.

And note it several people at one meeting revealing the inner heart of people.

Who are these people?:
Unbelievers
Unlearned

Not lukewarm bench warmers (redneck guess).

I suppose after that it becomes stir up that which you received.

Today part of the message should touch that inner core.
If they are repenting on the inside you should help (and others).

It does not have to be Pentecostal as such, but the power should be evident.

eddif

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[eddif]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

The spiritual gifts are not so we can prophesy back and forth between mature believers, but that Unbelievers and Unlearned may be convinced of the reality of the knowledge of God.

If I have not said enough I will try again.

eddif

 

[eddif]

The spiritual gifts are not so we can prophesy back and forth between mature believers, but that Unbelievers and Unlearned may be convinced of the reality of the knowledge of God.

If I have not said enough I will try again.

eddif

The Corinthians have come out of pagan religion. They were led in the worship of idols, but did not know of spiritual gifts like Jews did. The Gentiles are being told about spiritual gifts and how they are used in worship.

Great commission
Immersed in the knowledge and practices of:
The Father - repentance
The Son - eternal life
The Holy Spirit. Power to witness

Teaching them all things: Healing, discerning spirits, wisdom, knowledge, faith, tongues, interpretation, miraculous miracles, prophesy. I listed them out of order.

eddif

 

[jerry63935]

A lot of people do not use tongues correctly or do them falsely.
Does that ruin the gift of tongues (or all spiritual gifts)? No.

i will not debate this point .but deep down i feel in todays church they dont really know about tongues all this is just IMO just not sure what is used today is what they done when the scriptures was wrote.. yes i been in service where tongues was used and then silence for a space then the interpretation. i dont know as if it was the correct one and why was it needed when the evang was speaking the message in English .

i know this will crinkle eye brows will bring about a full page of explanation . but before you all tie me to a steak to be burnt 2 .i dont go around knocking those who do use tongues nor do i feel the need to ask for it....


but never the less this has been a rabbit chase from the intended o.p

 

[andy pandy]

The spiritual gifts are not so we can prophesy back and forth between mature believers, but that Unbelievers and Unlearned may be convinced of the reality of the knowledge of God.

If I have not said enough I will try again.

eddif

That is not how I experience them.