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JackB03

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Hey all! Happy Sunday.

I’m in my late 30’s and looking to really give my life over to Christ. About 10 years ago, I went down this road and read the Bible everyday, brought God into my daily life(or at least constantly thought about him), discussed with others, and watched sermons.

It became very overwhelming for me because I would hear different interpretations of the Bible, I learned the sermons I watched weren’t the right ones, etc… basically I feel it came down to outside interference.

Since then, I always thought there was a creator but I questioned a lot of things. Now, I’m trying to dive deep back in the Word and really have a relationship with God.

Unfortunately, I just feel dread, depression, anxiety, and worry. I think society today is even worse with so many people disagreeing with one another and there is sooo much information, I don’t know what to believe. I’ve been praying hard, begging for God to show me the truth and that I want a relationship. I’ve got nothing.

People say they hear God guide them and things like that, but I haven’t. I don’t even fully know what that means. I really think no one will ever no the full truth, but it’s something I’m looking for.

I feel like this is the biggest decision of my life, but I can’t seem to find the truth. What religion is the truth? Am I understanding the Bible correctly? These are the questions I constantly ask myself.

Regarding Bible interpretation, I always get told that I need to pray and ask for God to show me the truth. My question is - if many Christians do this and come up with different interpretations, then how does that make sense?

How can we believe the Bible? Looking at this from a historical factor, these books were written years later. How do they know EXACTLY what Jesus said? I can’t remember what I ate a week ago…

Sorry for the long post. This is more getting things off my chest. I just really want a relationship with God, know the truth, and live with God forever. I just feel like I’m never going to have it.

Thank you,
Jack
 
Looking at this from a historical factor, these books were written years later. How do they know EXACTLY what Jesus said? I can’t remember what I ate a week ago…
Welcome to the forum.
I found it interesting you made no reference to attending church.
May I suggest that you look for a church, if you don't have one, with the christianityexplored.
Even sign up for a course to explore Christianity as well as to explore the church running the course.

2nd. About the bible.
May I suggest you read what sites like coldcasechristianity, winteryknight, reasonablefaith and answersingenesis have to say about the bible.
 
Welcome to the forum.
I found it interesting you made no reference to attending church.
May I suggest that you look for a church, if you don't have one, with the christianityexplored.
Even sign up for a course to explore Christianity as well as to explore the church running the course.

2nd. About the bible.
May I suggest you read what sites like coldcasechristianity, winteryknight, reasonablefaith and answersingenesis have to say about the bible.
Hey! Thanks for the reply.

re: Church - I do attend church online (Lakepointe Church) and watch every Sunday on YouTube. So I am able to do that, but will check out ChristianityExplored.

re: Bible - Looking forward to checking out those sites.

Thanks again!
 
Hey all! Happy Sunday.
Welcome to the forums!

I’m in my late 30’s and looking to really give my life over to Christ. About 10 years ago, I went down this road and read the Bible everyday, brought God into my daily life(or at least constantly thought about him), discussed with others, and watched sermons.

It became very overwhelming for me because I would hear different interpretations of the Bible, I learned the sermons I watched weren’t the right ones, etc… basically I feel it came down to outside interference.
Yes, there are good interpretations and sources--better and worse ones--and bad interpretations and sources.

Since then, I always thought there was a creator but I questioned a lot of things. Now, I’m trying to dive deep back in the Word and really have a relationship with God.
The only way to have a relationship with God is to repent of your sin and put your faith and trust in Jesus and his atoning work on the cross. But, you have to actually, truly understand and believe.

Unfortunately, I just feel dread, depression, anxiety, and worry. I think society today is even worse with so many people disagreeing with one another and there is sooo much information, I don’t know what to believe. I’ve been praying hard, begging for God to show me the truth and that I want a relationship. I’ve got nothing.
Do you truly believe you are a sinner in need of a Saviour? Or do you think you are basically a good person and that is good enough for a relationship with God?

People say they hear God guide them and things like that, but I haven’t. I don’t even fully know what that means. I really think no one will ever no the full truth, but it’s something I’m looking for.

I feel like this is the biggest decision of my life, but I can’t seem to find the truth. What religion is the truth? Am I understanding the Bible correctly? These are the questions I constantly ask myself.
There are very good reasons to reject other religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, etc. But, maybe start with understanding that Christianity is the only religion where a person cannot earn their salvation; one can never be good enough on their own.

Understanding the Bible correctly is more tricky, as it cannot be done without the help of the Holy Spirit, but there are a lot of good additional sources out there to help.

Regarding Bible interpretation, I always get told that I need to pray and ask for God to show me the truth. My question is - if many Christians do this and come up with different interpretations, then how does that make sense?
It is difficult, no doubt, but to simply "pray and ask for God to show [you] the truth," is inaccurate and naive. That is why those claim that is all that is needed contradict each other on various beliefs. Yes, we do need to ask God to help us understand what is written in the Bible when we read and study it, but that doesn't relieve us of the hard work of proper study, as God most often communicates to us through the Bible and through others.

How can we believe the Bible? Looking at this from a historical factor, these books were written years later. How do they know EXACTLY what Jesus said? I can’t remember what I ate a week ago…
Cultures largely passed things on orally. They were actually very good at remembering accurately. The NT was written years later, but all within about 65ish years of Jesus's resurrection. That is unheard of in ancient texts, where most were written hundreds of years later.



We can be certain that what we have is 99.5+% accurate, based on textual criticism.

Sorry for the long post. This is more getting things off my chest. I just really want a relationship with God, know the truth, and live with God forever. I just feel like I’m never going to have it.

Thank you,
Jack
Keep seeking and so with all your heart and God will answer.
 
Hey all! Happy Sunday.

I’m in my late 30’s and looking to really give my life over to Christ. About 10 years ago, I went down this road and read the Bible everyday, brought God into my daily life(or at least constantly thought about him), discussed with others, and watched sermons.

It became very overwhelming for me because I would hear different interpretations of the Bible, I learned the sermons I watched weren’t the right ones, etc… basically I feel it came down to outside interference.

Since then, I always thought there was a creator but I questioned a lot of things. Now, I’m trying to dive deep back in the Word and really have a relationship with God.

Unfortunately, I just feel dread, depression, anxiety, and worry. I think society today is even worse with so many people disagreeing with one another and there is sooo much information, I don’t know what to believe. I’ve been praying hard, begging for God to show me the truth and that I want a relationship. I’ve got nothing.

People say they hear God guide them and things like that, but I haven’t. I don’t even fully know what that means. I really think no one will ever no the full truth, but it’s something I’m looking for.

I feel like this is the biggest decision of my life, but I can’t seem to find the truth. What religion is the truth? Am I understanding the Bible correctly? These are the questions I constantly ask myself.

Regarding Bible interpretation, I always get told that I need to pray and ask for God to show me the truth. My question is - if many Christians do this and come up with different interpretations, then how does that make sense?

How can we believe the Bible? Looking at this from a historical factor, these books were written years later. How do they know EXACTLY what Jesus said? I can’t remember what I ate a week ago…

Sorry for the long post. This is more getting things off my chest. I just really want a relationship with God, know the truth, and live with God forever. I just feel like I’m never going to have it.

Thank you,
Jack

Greetings Jack, and welcome to the forum.

We decided to move your thread to Questions & Answers, since it is more interactive with the way you are presenting things. Maybe it will get more responses here.

Blessings in Christ, and glad you joined,
Hidden
 
The only way to have a relationship with God is to repent of your sin and put your faith and trust in Jesus and his atoning work on the cross. But, you have to actually, truly understand and believe.
Hey there! I have done this. I’ve prayed to God and told him that I repent of my sins. I think what’s holding me back is “understand” and “believe”. I don’t understand everything in His word. Also, I would say that I don’t “fully” believe either since I still question a lot of things. But I’ve prayed for God to show me the truth. To show me how to have a relationship with Him.

Unfortunately, my mind wants proof, so it’s holding me back. It’s hard for me to blindly believe because of the questions I have.

One other thing people have told me is that I need to give my life over to Jesus. How does one do that? I feel like there has to be a deeper explanation to this instead of “just give your life over to Jesus”. I’d love to know how you do that.


Do you truly believe you are a sinner in need of a Saviour? Or do you think you are basically a good person and that is good enough for a relationship with God?
I’m fully aware that I am sinner. I’m not a good person at all and believe that I do need a Savior. This is where my doubt comes in for Jesus though and his Resurrection. Reading the gospels, it seems all over the place to me and hard to believe. My mind can’t comprehend someone being resurrected. Also, Luke’s gospel is a little strange. He just ends it on verse 8 with very little detail of proof of his resurrection. I know some bibles have a longer ending but it’s not in the earliest manuscript.

The resurrection is tough for me to believe.

It is difficult, no doubt, but to simply "pray and ask for God to show [you] the truth," is inaccurate and naive. That is why those claim that is all that is needed contradict each other on various beliefs. Yes, we do need to ask God to help us understand what is written in the Bible when we read and study it, but that doesn't relieve us of the hard work of proper study, as God most often communicates to us through the Bible and through others.
Thanks! I do need to study more and be in the Bible more, so it’s something I plan on doing.

Cultures largely passed things on orally. They were actually very good at remembering accurately. The NT was written years later, but all within about 65ish years of Jesus's resurrection. That is unheard of in ancient texts, where most were written hundreds of years later.
I’ve recently been watching Wes Huff as well. I love how he breaks it down and gives us perspective on the culture based on when the books were written. I was someone who listened to Billy Carson once and immediately got worried that Christianity was a lie. I was glad to see Wes point out a lot of his “misunderstandings” in that debate.

I appreciate the feedback and information! Thank you.
 
Hey all! Happy Sunday.

I’m in my late 30’s and looking to really give my life over to Christ. About 10 years ago, I went down this road and read the Bible everyday, brought God into my daily life(or at least constantly thought about him), discussed with others, and watched sermons.

It became very overwhelming for me because I would hear different interpretations of the Bible, I learned the sermons I watched weren’t the right ones, etc… basically I feel it came down to outside interference.

Since then, I always thought there was a creator but I questioned a lot of things. Now, I’m trying to dive deep back in the Word and really have a relationship with God.

Unfortunately, I just feel dread, depression, anxiety, and worry. I think society today is even worse with so many people disagreeing with one another and there is sooo much information, I don’t know what to believe. I’ve been praying hard, begging for God to show me the truth and that I want a relationship. I’ve got nothing.

People say they hear God guide them and things like that, but I haven’t. I don’t even fully know what that means. I really think no one will ever no the full truth, but it’s something I’m looking for.

I feel like this is the biggest decision of my life, but I can’t seem to find the truth. What religion is the truth? Am I understanding the Bible correctly? These are the questions I constantly ask myself.

Regarding Bible interpretation, I always get told that I need to pray and ask for God to show me the truth. My question is - if many Christians do this and come up with different interpretations, then how does that make sense?

How can we believe the Bible? Looking at this from a historical factor, these books were written years later. How do they know EXACTLY what Jesus said? I can’t remember what I ate a week ago…

Sorry for the long post. This is more getting things off my chest. I just really want a relationship with God, know the truth, and live with God forever. I just feel like I’m never going to have it.

Thank you,
Jack
You certainly have a lot of questions and maybe even doubts but that is not unusual. Even Jesus' disciples doubted, every one of them, and they spent three years side-by-side with Him witnessing his teaching, miracles, and so forth.

Jesus certainly did warn to beware of wolves in sheep's clothing so finding many variations in teaching is one way that happens. He also said we would know those wolves by their fruits. In other words, we would know them by their lifestyles, their habits, their actions, their speech, and so forth. Do they shine the light of Jesus in these things?

If you struggle to answer that question, I might suggest that you work on getting to know Jesus. Not just learning about Him or who He was but really getting to know Him and who He is in a very personal way.

One place to start is the Bible. The Bible from Genesis to Revelation is all about Jesus. Find opportunities to get involved in Bible studies, prayer groups, and so forth to learn as much as you can. Read the Bible but don't just skim over the words. Open your heart and mind and truly read it, study it, consider the context of what you're reading, meditate on what it says, and pray for understanding and help. What is the Bible saying to you?

Whenever you listen or read something presented by another person, search the Scriptures to verify what they are teaching is true and lines up with Scripture. Remember that many times people will pull out specific pieces of Scripture to support something they are teaching, what is called proof texting, but Jesus isn't broken up in pieces. Take the entire complete Bible when considering what is taught.

The more you read God's Word, study it, meditate on it, pray about it, and let it envelope your being the more you will get to know Jesus. Think about it this way. Do you know your best friend? He/she is much more than just an acquaintance and it took time for you to truly get to know this person. Give Jesus your time.

God says we are to love God with ALL our hearts, ALL our minds, ALL our strength, and ALL our souls. Worldly things and life can be very distracting so dive into His Word as much as possible. Don't expect instant gratification. God works in His time, not ours.

“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened."
Matthew 7:7-8 NKJV

Just my $0.02.
 
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Hey there! I have done this. I’ve prayed to God and told him that I repent of my sins. I think what’s holding me back is “understand” and “believe”. I don’t understand everything in His word. Also, I would say that I don’t “fully” believe either since I still question a lot of things. But I’ve prayed for God to show me the truth. To show me how to have a relationship with Him.
Well, you don't have to understand everything. The basic gospel that one must understand is that everyone is a sinner, but can do nothing to merit salvation, so that without a Saviour, will spend eternity apart from God. God did what no man could do--came in the flesh, as one of his creatures, to live a perfect life and die in our place. In so doing, he paid the penalty for our sins that God's own justice demanded, so that whoever believes will no longer face his wrath. It is entirely a gift of his grace; he didn't have to do it, but he did.

Questioning things isn't bad either. Every Christian struggles with doubts and has questions, or at least they should (perhaps we could say that the unexamined faith is not worth believing). It is hard, because everything in this world is against us, but Jesus said this would be the case. He also said a person should sit down and count the cost of following him. It could, and should, be the hardest yet easiest and most rewarding thing a person could do.

Unfortunately, my mind wants proof, so it’s holding me back. It’s hard for me to blindly believe because of the questions I have.
No one should blindly believe. A Christian's faith should rest on evidence, although the evidence isn't always conclusive or exhaustive..

One other thing people have told me is that I need to give my life over to Jesus. How does one do that? I feel like there has to be a deeper explanation to this instead of “just give your life over to Jesus”. I’d love to know how you do that.
You have to be truly repentant and understand your need for a Saviour. You have to be willing to be Jesus's disciple and obey him, to be willing to do what he says here in Luke:

Luk 9:23 And he said to all, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. (ESV)

To deny yourself is to submit to Jesus entirely and die to yourself, to your own will, and surrender to God's will every day. It is to let God have control of your life, as well as being willing to literally die for your faith in Jesus. That latter part isn't likely to happen in the West, but it is entirely possible. The point is that one must be willing.

Luk 9:24 For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it.
Luk 9:25 For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses or forfeits himself?
Luk 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. (ESV)

I’m fully aware that I am sinner. I’m not a good person at all and believe that I do need a Savior. This is where my doubt comes in for Jesus though and his Resurrection. Reading the gospels, it seems all over the place to me and hard to believe. My mind can’t comprehend someone being resurrected. Also, Luke’s gospel is a little strange. He just ends it on verse 8 with very little detail of proof of his resurrection. I know some bibles have a longer ending but it’s not in the earliest manuscript.
I think you mean Mark, but yeah, Mark is an interesting book. There is a theory that the way he wrote, it actually was meant as a play, to teach the gospel, and ends with a cliff-hanger. It actually does seem to read that way, as you should notice a lot of uses of words such as "immediately." This is actually quite good:


I haven't watched all the parts. Just remember that each gospel was written for a particular audience for a particular purpose, so there will be differences, some big, some small.

The resurrection is tough for me to believe.
What do you find tough? If God exists and if God created everything that has come into being, including humans, then raising a body from the dead is easy. It is entirely consistent with the biblical God and with every other miracle, including the virgin birth, which really is the miracle of miracles.

Virtually all theologians and historians, whether atheist or Christian, and except Muslim, believe that Jesus was crucified. There is mainly only disagreement on whether or not he rose from the dead. This is one of those necessary doctrines, since, as Paul says, if Christ wasn't raised, then we are still in our sins and to pitied most of all people (1 Cor 15:12-19).

But, when one works through the possible scenarios, the best explanation, which is often what theology (like many fields) comes down to, is that the tomb really was empty because Jesus rose from the dead.

Thanks! I do need to study more and be in the Bible more, so it’s something I plan on doing.
I get it, it is a lot of work; that is why many Christians don't do it, and then wonder why they have stagnated. There is so much material in the Bible and a seemingly infinite amount of extra-biblical sources such as commentaries and dictionaries. It can be hard to get going, with paths going every which way, and it will take time to come to understand the different positions on things--some legitimate, some not--but it is worth it in the end.

I’ve recently been watching Wes Huff as well. I love how he breaks it down and gives us perspective on the culture based on when the books were written. I was someone who listened to Billy Carson once and immediately got worried that Christianity was a lie. I was glad to see Wes point out a lot of his “misunderstandings” in that debate.
I hadn't heard of Billy Carson until Wes released videos of the "debate." Yeah, Billy was way off on a lot of things. There are a large number of theologians and scholars that could have debunked Billy's claims. I'm glad someone finally did and that it was someone as sharp as Wes.

I appreciate the feedback and information! Thank you.
You're welcome.
 
Adding to my last post a little bit here are some things that I do.

I attend Sunday worship services as much as I can. I also attend other gatherings for prayer or Bible study at a local Bible camp a few times each year. Every Tuesday morning I attend a prayer breakfast sponsored by another local church. I am a member of Gideons International and we meet every Saturday morning for a prayer breakfast plus I get involved with other Gideon events as well as Bible distributions. I also try to spend a little time each morning in prayer, thanking God for everything in my life although I could certainly expand in this area.

On January 1, every year for about the last 8 years or so, I make it a point to either read or listen to the entire Bible from beginning to end. I find it easier to listen to it because when I try to read it, I struggle to stay awake. That has nothing to do with it being the Bible but just reading in general puts me to sleep. My favorite audio version is found at Biblegateway.com and is a dramatized version based on the NIV translation.

One thing that stands out is that every time I do this, I learn something new or something seems to jump out at me. One of those things is God's desire for us to know Him, to truly and deeply know Him.

Hope this is helpful.
 
I recommend shepherds chapel. They're on you tube. The pastor teaches sound doctrine. Amos chapter 8. We're in time of famine. Many people will be hard pressed to find pastor who teaches sound doctrine. It's up to you what ever you decide. I offered honest advice. take care.
 
Hey JackB03
Unfortunately, I just feel dread, depression, anxiety, and worry. I think society today is even worse with so many people disagreeing with one another and there is sooo much information, I don’t know what to believe. I’ve been praying hard, begging for God to show me the truth and that I want a relationship. I’ve got nothing.
Well, without the Lord and the Spirit to guide us and teach us, we are likely to feel dread concerning a lot of what is going on in the world. But for those who have studied the Scriptures, what we see happening in the world is the fulfillment of prophecy. Jesus' return is likely very near. By that I mean in the next 30-40 years or so, but that's not a promise from me.

But the falling away into sin is something that Jesus spoke of. He encouraged us to persevere. He spoke of a day coming when the love of most will grow cold. I believe that he was speaking of the love that believers claim to have for him. Paul wrote of a great apostasy, a falling away of the church. And the letters to the churches found in the opening of the Revelation of Jesus are real letters making real claims about real activities going on among the people of his church.

But as to what you should believe? Believe both God's testimony to you and Jesus' testimony to you. Those are the only sources from which we can know that it is the truth. God cannot lie and neither will Jesus. When speaking of our place being established in God's Kingdom, he said that if it were not so he would have told us so.

Now, from reading your post, you sound like someone who is on the fence. Let me encourage you to study Daniel chapter 9. God told His people Israel that they can know the true God through prophecy. That is the test that God has given us to assure ourselves that He exists, and He is truthful to us.

Open up your copy of God's word and begin reading Daniel's testimony of the visitation that he received from the angel Gabriel concerning the 70 sevens (Daniel 9:20-27). As you read, ask yourself these questions and find out the answers:

When did Daniel live?
When did Daniel die?
When was the decree spoken of issued?
Was the city built in troublous times?
When would the 69 sevens, that speak of Jesus being with us and being cut off, end?

Finally, after you have gathered all that information, simply ask yourself, "How did Daniel know these things?" Who could have possibly told him such things that were fulfilled down to the very year of the prophecies completion of the 69 sevens? Trust me, if you work that out, there will be no doubt in your mind that God exists. That His testimony to us is true.

If I can be of further help feel free to PM me if you have other questions.

God bless you as you seek Him. His promise is that He will be found by those who earnestly seek Him.
 
God is constantly in contact with us, but we are not in contact with ourselves. We are always trying to change who we really are, hiding behind our fears, our insecurity, our shame, and not being true to ourselves. This is why Jesus said:

Mark 10:15
"Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it."

Children are very bad at hiding their intentions or hiding their personality. They always show who they truly are—good or bad, they never betray their true nature, and they never lie in spirit. This is why they are nearer to God: because they are always nearer to themselves.

Sadly, we live in a society built on hiding intentions, so your path is not easy because everything around you moves in the opposite direction. This is why... Matthew 10:16.

Summarizing: If you want a relationship with God, you must first have a relationship with yourself. You will not reach God by changing yourself but by discovering who you really are. There are good and bad things in you—find them, accept them, and integrate them into your personality.

What religion is the truth? Am I understanding the Bible correctly? These are the questions I constantly ask myself.

When Jesus was asked by Pilate, "What is truth?" Jesus remained silent. Behind this silence lies a universe.
Truth is not knowledge but an experience. The experience of truth can only be given by God. We are completely incapable of fully understanding the truth. Pretending to know the truth is like pretending to move the moon—this is entirely beyond your (or my) abilities.

Religious texts, however, offer many valid interpretations. This is one of the mysteries of religion: there is not a single meaning but many different meanings, all of which can be equally valid. That said, there are deeper meanings and more superficial ones.

How can we believe the Bible? Looking at this from a historical factor, these books were written years later. How do they know EXACTLY what Jesus said? I can’t remember what I ate a week ago…

Globally, what is said about Jesus is historically correct, matches a specific historical period, and shows no signs of forgery. I mean, if you are going to doubt Jesus, then we might as well start doubting Julius Caesar, Plato, Khufu (Kheops), or Moses. Do we know all the details of their lives? No. It’s likely we believe incorrect things about Khufu or Julius Caesar, but that does not make them any less real. The same applies to Jesus.

Be careful, because there is a lot of disinformation on the internet. Specific pressure groups attempt to cast doubt on everything related to Jesus and religion due to certain political, economic, and social interests that have nothing to do with truth, rights, or freedom. These are merely Trojan horses designed to spread toxic ideas among the public.

We are in the information age, and we must be extremely cautious with information today. You can't invent a character like Jesus without being like Jesus yourself.
 
Hi JackB03 and hope you are still around with us.

Our relationship with Jesus depends on how we personally interact with Him everyday by developing our relationship with Him. We have many influences in our life telling us what is right and what is wrong, what you should and should not do and it all comes down to only confusing our mind and even pushing us further away from.

I was at that place at one time and almost gave up believing God and Jesus were even real. It wasn't until I got to the lowest place I could ever be in my life that I got on my knees bowing down to Jesus pouring out everything that was binding me from having that personal relationship with Him. Once I was done giving everything inside of me to Him I just laid there in complete silence (be still and know I am God) hoping to hear Jesus speak to me. I didn't care how long that would take, but I knew I was not getting up until I heard something or eventually nothing. That is where Jesus made Him self very real to me as I was surrounded in the most warmest and brightest light knowing It was Jesus picking me up into His arms as that was something I never felt before. I don't know if it was an angel Jesus sent or He himself, but a voice spoke to me and said greater things I have for you to do. That is when I completely gave myself to Him to follow after Jesus. I'm not saying He will literally speak to you, but in the stillness you will know He is there with you. I picked up my Bible and read the book of John that I had read many times, but was not truly understanding what it meant to be Spiritually born again and filled with the Holy Spirit. I started reading and the Holy Spirit made it so clear that I needed that personal relationship with Jesus and to be filled with the Holy Spirit. From that point onward I really started getting into the word of God allowing the Holy Spirit guide me into all truths as God's Spirit guided me to a Church I needed to be at to be Spiritually fed the word of God.

It comes down to you to pray, seek and find the Lord and start your relationship with Him. Will keep you in my prayers.
 
Scroll down through the forums and click on Members Writings and read my full teachings on Salvation, Holy Spirit, Faith and Baptism. I also wrote a book on Revelations you can find in the End Times forum under the sub forum Revelations,
HI for_his_glory

Just curious, but I did as you suggested and I scrolled through the 'forums' page and didn't see anything about 'Members writings'. Has that been moved since the makeover? If so, where would it be found now?
 
Scroll down through the forums and click on Members Writings and read my full teachings on Salvation, Holy Spirit, Faith and Baptism. I also wrote a book on Revelations you can find in the End Times forum under the sub forum Revelations,
HI for_his_glory

Just curious, but I did as you suggested and I scrolled through the 'forums' page and didn't see anything about 'Members writings'. Has that been moved since the makeover? If so, where would it be found now?
You have to go to the End Times forum and at the upper left you will see the sub-forum Revelation click on that and scroll down till you find all the chapters. The book is called "The Unveiling". PM me if you can't find it.
 
Hey! Thanks for the reply.

re: Church - I do attend church online (Lakepointe Church) and watch every Sunday on YouTube. So I am able to do that, but will check out ChristianityExplored.

re: Bible - Looking forward to checking out those sites.

Thanks again!
What fellowship is had with other Christians?
 
How can we believe the Bible?
Do you believe Africa and Antarctica exist? Why?
Looking at this from a historical factor, these books were written years later.
Yes, that is true, but comparatively speaking, the years separating the manuscripts we possess and the events on which they report is much, much, much, much, much closer in time than any other ancient writing. In other words, comparatively speaking, the "historical factor" of the Bible is exponentially more accurate than anything else in antiquity. Do you believe "The Birds" was written by Aristophanes? Why? That play was reportedly first performed in 414 BC but the oldest manuscripts of that play are centuries after that fact. Platos' "The Republic" was written circa 380 BC but the oldest manuscript we have dates back to the 9th century AD! We have portions of New Testament manuscripts that date back to within 60 years of the originals! Objectively speaking, that makes the New Testament possessing a much greater "historical factor" than any other ancient writing known to exist.

Why then do you believe Plato wrote "The Republic," but question the veracity of the New Testament?

The honest answer is, "I do not want to do so," and when you discover the answer to why it is you do not want to believe then everything in your life will change accordingly.

How do they know EXACTLY what Jesus said? I can’t remember what I ate a week ago…
Why is that important to you? Why are you imposing the word "EXACTLY" on the matter?

Answer: Because I want to maintain what I think is cautious skepticism.

Sorry for the long post. This is more getting things off my chest. I just really want a relationship with God, know the truth, and live with God forever. I just feel like I’m never going to have it.

Thank you,
Jack
The questions themselves aren't unusual, but neither are they completely honest. Every single Christian here has walked this path before you. I've taken the uncommon approach of asking you to consider the underlying, unstated presuppositions and motives prompting this op.


I recommend you pick up a copy of Francis Schaeffer's trilogy., or his "He is There and He is Not Silent." and read it. You could read an evidential apologetic, like Strobel's "The Case for Christ," and his other books of similar title, but facts in and of themselves do not usually change lives and no number of facts will ever be able to reach God. Getting at what lies underneath your own reasoning will be more effective. I, therefore, also recommend you commit to praying to God every day, maybe two or three times a day, about all your concerns and have Him bring you the things you need (whether that be people, things, or information) to be persuaded and changed.
 
Hey all! Happy Sunday.

I’m in my late 30’s and looking to really give my life over to Christ. About 10 years ago, I went down this road and read the Bible everyday, brought God into my daily life(or at least constantly thought about him), discussed with others, and watched sermons.

It became very overwhelming for me because I would hear different interpretations of the Bible, I learned the sermons I watched weren’t the right ones, etc… basically I feel it came down to outside interference.

Since then, I always thought there was a creator but I questioned a lot of things. Now, I’m trying to dive deep back in the Word and really have a relationship with God.

If you don't have a straight line by which to assess whether or not all other lines are straight, you will never be able to say "This line is straight and that line isn't." This is obvious, I know, but Christians seem to ignore the "straight line" of the Bible and rely instead on those proclaiming themselves teachers of the Bible who they trust to explain what the "straight line" of Christian belief and practice is to them. But how does a Christian assess the truth/accuracy of the claims of these teachers about the contents of the Bible? Maybe the teacher has made a "crooked line" out of God's word, bending and twisting it out of shape. How can you tell this is so except you've studied God's word carefully for yourself and know it well? Obviously, you can't. So, then, if you want to avoid the "crooked line" teacher, you have to be a student of God's word yourself, poring over it on your own, with lexicons, commentaries, interlinears, good logic and reasoning skills, sound interpretive hermeneutics and prayerful dependence on the Holy Spirit coming to understand what it says.

Most of God's word is not "up for grabs," its contents taking whatever shape the reader wants to give to it. Instead, most of the Bible is very plain and straightforward, its truth quite accessible even to the non-seminarian, and those who aren't fluent speakers of Koine Greek, or Hebrew, or Aramaic.

What does it mean to "bring God into your life"? You mention thinking about Him, but even demons do that (though, not happily).

Unfortunately, I just feel dread, depression, anxiety, and worry. I think society today is even worse with so many people disagreeing with one another and there is sooo much information, I don’t know what to believe. I’ve been praying hard, begging for God to show me the truth and that I want a relationship. I’ve got nothing.

Well, what do you expect God to do, exactly, in response to your prayer for Truth and a relationship with Him? Are your expectations reasonable? Do they align with what God has offered/promised to us in the Bible regarding interaction with Him?

We live in an instant-everything culture in North America and so many people are becoming increasingly impatient and averse to doing hard work in the attainment of what they want. But the really valuable things in life, the things most precious and enduring, exact a price from us. And the more valuable the thing, the higher the price, usually. So, then, since God's the very Greatest Thing Possible, since He's Lord, King and Creator of the Universe, should you not expect that, to enjoy Him fully, a great deal of investment of your time, energy and your material resources will be required in your pursuit of Him? Do you think knowing and relating with God should come cheap and easy?

Also, God has very clear "protocols of approach." Just as we can't approach our neighbor in any old way we like, treating them casually, disrespecting them, or taking advantage of them with impunity, we most certainly can't treat the Maker of, and Sovereign over, Everything in a light, casual, careless way. He's God and when we fail to approach Him as such, our attempts to connect with Him will always result in silence from Him and distance.

Do you know what the Bible says about who God is and the difference who He is makes to how we approach Him for relationship and fellowship?

People say they hear God guide them and things like that, but I haven’t.

What does the "straight line" of God's word say about how God guides people? Does it say that we all ought to expect to be guided by Him constantly in dramatic, overt, supernatural ways? No, actually the Bible doesn't say this. How does the Bible tell us God directs His children primarily today? An inner voice? No. Strong feelings? No. Strange coincidence? No.

2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

Psalm 119:105
105 Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.

Psalm 119:130
130 The unfolding of Your words gives light; It gives understanding to the simple.


I feel like this is the biggest decision of my life, but I can’t seem to find the truth. What religion is the truth? Am I understanding the Bible correctly? These are the questions I constantly ask myself.

And the only way to begin to answer them confidently is to make yourself a careful, thoughtful student of God's word. There's just no way around the necessary and prolonged consideration of the Bible in knowing and understanding God and His Truth. But there is, today, many more readily available aids to this study than perhaps there has ever been. There are a good number of excellent Bible study software programs you can purchase for your p.c., or use online (some are entirely free), that give you access to Bible lexicons, various commentaries, texts on the ancient cultures of the Bible, systematic theologies and instruction on sound interpretive hermeneutics. You don't have to attend an expensive seminary, or rely entirely on a "Bible expert," in discovering God's life-changing, eternal truth. With the plethora of study materials/helps available to the student of Scripture in North America, ignorance about the Bible is hard for a Christian to justify.

Regarding Bible interpretation, I always get told that I need to pray and ask for God to show me the truth. My question is - if many Christians do this and come up with different interpretations, then how does that make sense?

Well, praying to God for guidance in study of His word is predicated on the condition of the person praying. As I said, we can't approach God in just any way and in any condition we like. If we want God's ear, if we want His Spirit to teach us, we have to be before God in the way He has prescribed to us in His word. Being taught by God isn't accomplished just by asking Him to teach you. He'll very likely convict you before He'll teach you and prompt you to be properly submitted to Him, too. Holiness, love for, and surrender to, God are all necessary to full, unhindered interaction with Him, including His teaching.

Not all interpretations of the contents of the Bible are equal. A good many of them really stink, actually. But you'll only be able to see this as you know God's word well for yourself. Don't let the proliferation of interpretations make you think God's Truth is unknowable. This is a devilish lie that keeps many Christians from trusting in God's word and studying it for themselves. There are millennia-old doctrines and practices of the faith that are rightly considered Christian orthodoxy and to which all who profess to be Christians must hold. These doctrines and practices are not obscure, or arcane, or difficult to see in Scripture. As I said, much of God's Truth is as plain as the nose on your face, which is why this Truth has endured for twenty centuries as the unchanging core of orthodox Christian belief and practice.

How can we believe the Bible? Looking at this from a historical factor, these books were written years later. How do they know EXACTLY what Jesus said? I can’t remember what I ate a week ago…

There are myriad responses to your question here. Among the best, is the book "Evidence That Demands a Verdict," by Josh and Sean MacDowell. I strongly recommend you obtain a copy and read it.

I just really want a relationship with God, know the truth, and live with God forever. I just feel like I’m never going to have it.

Well, what you want should be properly offered to you in Christian discipleship but, these days, there's only "mentoring" that happens, or an endless, scatter-shot collection of Bible studies, if anything happens at all. It's very sad and very frustrating. But God CAN fulfill His promises to you, even when the Church is "dropping the ball" in Christian education as awfully as it presently is in many places.
 
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Hey all! Happy Sunday.

I’m in my late 30’s and looking to really give my life over to Christ. About 10 years ago, I went down this road and read the Bible everyday, brought God into my daily life(or at least constantly thought about him), discussed with others, and watched sermons.

It became very overwhelming for me because I would hear different interpretations of the Bible, I learned the sermons I watched weren’t the right ones, etc… basically I feel it came down to outside interference.

Since then, I always thought there was a creator but I questioned a lot of things. Now, I’m trying to dive deep back in the Word and really have a relationship with God.

Unfortunately, I just feel dread, depression, anxiety, and worry. I think society today is even worse with so many people disagreeing with one another and there is sooo much information, I don’t know what to believe. I’ve been praying hard, begging for God to show me the truth and that I want a relationship. I’ve got nothing.

People say they hear God guide them and things like that, but I haven’t. I don’t even fully know what that means. I really think no one will ever no the full truth, but it’s something I’m looking for.

I feel like this is the biggest decision of my life, but I can’t seem to find the truth. What religion is the truth? Am I understanding the Bible correctly? These are the questions I constantly ask myself.

Regarding Bible interpretation, I always get told that I need to pray and ask for God to show me the truth. My question is - if many Christians do this and come up with different interpretations, then how does that make sense?

How can we believe the Bible? Looking at this from a historical factor, these books were written years later. How do they know EXACTLY what Jesus said? I can’t remember what I ate a week ago…

Sorry for the long post. This is more getting things off my chest. I just really want a relationship with God, know the truth, and live with God forever. I just feel like I’m never going to have it.

Thank you,
Jack
Hello Jack, My name is Bruce and I'm 72. I hear you -every word. Advice generally falls flat because everyone has some of it to offer. But I will try.
(1) Never give up...you are saved because of what Jesus did, not by how much you know or how right you are (or aren't). That's it, just don't give up...
(2) the rest of it, God will do.
(3) Take as much rest as you need -Jesus said you are entitled to the peace. Jesus said because you believed, He paid your price (and mine as well).
If you feel that you need an undeniable proof, then ask Him for that.
I'm needy. I needed proof of everything and I was "all over the place" and then one day I received an undeniable proof. So if you need proof, I believe you will receive your "proof" if you do not give up seeking the truth.
Some people seem to never need proof -they live in a faith and they seem to be just fine there.
The hard part for me was similar to what you have stated above in your questions and concerns.
What helped was to remember that God gave me my initial spark of faith (in essence He sent me to Jesus). He did it through an introduction to the teachings of Protestantism at an early age. But then I drifted away and was tortured by every one of the issues you mentioned above.
Even after receiving a proof of the absolute truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, I eventually became tortured that I was fallen away and lost.
So my point is that for some people (me), satan never seems to stop trying to confuse them.
So what do I do? -even though I am absolutely certain that the Gospel of Jesus is true, and knowing that satan still tries to undo my relationship with God. I have learned to trust: it is God's Holy Son Jesus who repairs the broken connections, the misunderstandings, the damages of sin on an ongoing basis, and who breaks the sin nature over time as I keep "not giving up". He does this by the ongoing release upon me of the promise of the holy Spirit of God.
In short, I am not good enough -but He is. And He is my righteousness. He reveals the Holy Spirit and the power of God when I seek Him and He keeps me.
 
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