Supreme Court Overturns Roe v. Wade

[jerry63935]

Isn’t the biggest cause having sex?

Anyway, I think that while abortion should be banned, it should also be put into law that a man can be compelled to provide DNA, and if found to be the father of a child, be likewise compelled to provide all the support necessary.

agreed 100 %

 

[evenifigoalone]

do you have any idea what your saying ? easier they give them med card free health care many times a check food stamps ... many times low income apartments how more do they need gezzz talk to a family service case worker ask them the real story

And this is why the pro choice movement doesn't take us seriously. (Yes, I'm prolife.)

 

[evenifigoalone]

Such a question posed.if you can drive that big truck you can't pay for child support?

The response my dad owns it .he don't want to support a grand kid .

The view of welfare as yes .my brother has 4 kids in his house .his wife didn't work all through that and my mom and dad helped and the in laws when needed.

My sister has three kids,no father to support them .

That's not an excuse . My church has helped others directly or through care met

I'm not saying that no help is currently available. But that we can do much, much better.

 

[evenifigoalone]

I'm out, some of y'all are part of the problem.

 

[jasonc]

Isn’t the biggest cause having sex?

Anyway, I think that while abortion should be banned, it should also be put into law that a man can be compelled to provide DNA, and if found to be the father of a child, be likewise compelled to provide all the support necessary.

That is already a law.

Useless,jail a man ,he can't work

I'm not saying that no help is currently available. But that we can do much, much better.

Well yes if more churches sent Godly men to preach at these places and supported the outreach

 

[evenifigoalone]

I'll just leave this thread with this:
If y'all actually care about reducing abortions, in addition to outlawing them (because, yes, murder shouldn't be legal), we need to also provide better pregnancy, birth, infant, and child care. No "well they're just need to get to work!", no "they're just lazy". No excuses for not doing our part. If you want to actually see the number of abortions going down, and they will still continue whether it's legal or not, you should do your part in individual, community, state, and federal support.

This is not to say that we don't help already. I donate to the local crisis pregnancy center. I participate in awareness events for it. But that sometimes what we already do isn't enough, and that we can do better.

 

[jerry63935]

And this is why the pro choice movement doesn't take us seriously. (Yes, I'm prolife.)

who is us? everything on help i have seen and known personally. there is help for pregnant moms/ teens even places willing to adopt the unwanted baby

 

[jerry63935]

that we can do better.

they way to do better is educate them we can help till funds run out.. it does not solve the problem its not the end of a world if young girls gets pregnant . we dont throw them under the bus ..but a mother who has kids by 3 different father ? that tells a story not very many of my generation behaved and waited till after marriage have sex.. one its a guy thing and so often one the girl wants it and or the guy talks her in to it.. why i say it takes 2 make one .they enjoy the s ex but not the responsibility

 

[Free]

I'll just leave this thread with this:
If y'all actually care about reducing abortions, in addition to outlawing them (because, yes, murder shouldn't be legal), we need to also provide better pregnancy, birth, infant, and child care. No "well they're just need to get to work!", no "they're just lazy". No excuses for not doing our part. If you want to actually see the number of abortions going down, and they will still continue whether it's legal or not, you should do your part in individual, community, state, and federal support.

This is not to say that we don't help already. I donate to the local crisis pregnancy center. I participate in awareness events for it. But that sometimes what we already do isn't enough, and that we can do better.

I completely agree. Defund abortion and put that money to helping support the child after birth. It’s everyone’s responsibility.

 

[jasonc]

I'll just leave this thread with this:
If y'all actually care about reducing abortions, in addition to outlawing them (because, yes, murder shouldn't be legal), we need to also provide better pregnancy, birth, infant, and child care. No "well they're just need to get to work!", no "they're just lazy". No excuses for not doing our part. If you want to actually see the number of abortions going down, and they will still continue whether it's legal or not, you should do your part in individual, community, state, and federal support.

This is not to say that we don't help already. I donate to the local crisis pregnancy center. I participate in awareness events for it. But that sometimes what we already do isn't enough, and that we can do better.

You could if able or other churches simply send persons to reach them

 

[Free]

That is already a law.

Useless,jail a man ,he can't work

If it is already a law in some (or all) jurisdictions, then stronger laws for enforcement need to be looked at.

 

[jasonc]

You could if able or other churches simply send persons to reach them

My church reaches only on saturday.there is a Friday that the children are murdered and no one goes to preach .we alone are the only protestant church that does this there .

It's a demon ,go and see that in person I did and we'll I had flash backs from it as I noticed the death and murder intent

 

[jerry63935]

You could if able or other churches simply send persons to reach them

its hard reach people you know who the hardest are ? those in the pews on Sunday morning

 

[jasonc]

If it is already a law in some (or all) jurisdictions, then stronger laws for enforcement need to be looked at.

I have lived this.

Jail the man ,he can't work ,so the states can simply hold him forever .he doesn't work in prison ,no money to take to be given .

My

 

[jasonc]

I have lived this.

Jail the man ,he can't work ,so the states can simply hold him forever .he doesn't work in prison ,no money to take to be given .

My

Jaci ,dad is this way ,Nathan's dad hasn't either .the state will pay up front and collect years later but well like anything ,cash only jobs exist .

Can't force a man to do anything good.a jail won't give him income enough

Ever heard of locks are for honest people?

 

[jerry63935]

Can't force a man to do anything good.

nope i know a person who gained enough weight to give health problems so he couldnt work

 

[jasonc]

I'm not for dead beat father's or mother's .just pointing out the toothless ability of the law .

In my state they take your dl .so if he drives for living that worked well. On that note my dad lost his license for health reasons.yet he was known for driving to get his meals early in the morning .

No law stopped him.if a cop pulled him over it's a fine .driving without a license had to types . criminal intent or the other .

 

[jaybo]

Being anti-abortion is the only legitimate Christian position.

This is absurd. Aren't women to be considered as full hamun beings with the right to make their own decisions? Do you think that the state should control people lives to that extent?

 

[Milk-Drops]

do you have any idea what your saying ? easier they give them med card free health care many times a check food stamps ... many times low income apartments how more do they need gezzz talk to a family service case worker ask them the real story

I had to regularly for my last job. This varies by state and .there are stipulations and restrictions. For the most part generally a single mother can get medicaid for the children, free school lunch, be applicable for low income housing, wic, and food stamps. Checks are rare and heavily depend on the state.

Usually the woman has to stay within a certain income bracket to recieve benefits.

Personally I think we should offer universal programs and remove the income restrictions. This way a person isn't restricted by job options. I had to suggest clients not get married or they would lose benefits. These were special needs individuals who could not work.

 

[jerry63935]

I had to regularly for my last job. This varies by state and .there are stipulations and restrictions. For the most part generally a single mother can get medicaid for the children, free school lunch, be applicable for low income housing, wic, and food stamps. Checks are rare and heavily depend on the state.

Usually the woman has to stay within a certain income bracket to recieve benefits.

Personally I think we should offer universal programs and remove the income restrictions. This way a person isn't restricted by job options. I had to suggest clients not get married or they would lose benefits. These were special needs individuals who could not work.

i can agree to income brackets my only beef on that is they cut them off cold turkey . its suppose to be a self help get them established on there feet. then cut the help yes i have seen this happen and i have seen the abuse of the programs. i have seen the mom/dad take advantage of the programs. the kids do with out and that ticks me off. we kept 4 kids with us off on for 7 years not once did we get help other than few times . the mom gave us her ebt /food stamp card we bought groceries.

when we started with the kids my wife baby sitted them in a run down trailer the carpet was shot .not much food in the place . she took her money which was not much and bought food to feed the kids. it started out with 3 girls she kept them clean and fed them.. then mom got pregnant with twins she carried for 7 months 2 boys the bigger stronger of the 2 passed away about a month or so later . william the one who survived 2lbs you could have held him i the palm of your hand .

there are mom who take advantage of the programs and move on to a better life.
then there are those who spit babies out like a copying machine . out of the 3 girls 2 different dads.
yes its said to be told live together or lose it .

this happens with older adults to.. it seems those who pass the help bills has no common sense . the democrats wants to create a socialist welfare state . make professional welfare recipients . the republican part wants to cut as much as they can out social security medicare / real help for working families to the point you make more not working living off the state . than get a job
i see it every day we hired the pied piper failed to pay , know we pay the price.

yet i a still pro life let the babies live