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Testing?? Why So? Or ONLY 'FAITH' Alone.

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Heb. 12 tells why, if seen in the NT with all of His fully saved ones as Israel.
The Lord requires MATURITY. Nah. 1:9. And this is the way that it is done. The hardest thing to do differs per person no doubt & can find one as seen.. [[A PARRTAKER]] (Rom. 8:1) and then refusing by our own free 'will' to go on any further as seen in Rom. 8:14 of being LED to becoming a verse 8 bastard. (fatherless)

Yet matured the wrong way. Most all know the trouble that they are in? (Rev. 17:1-5) But this is the greatest failure of man while he reaches towards maturity. Such as that of the sin of omission. Dirty church's required hard Loving work. And the WORD of James pen about work.. satan has about blotted out! And why?? Just check the success he has of the matured ones in the wrong direction of Rev. 17:1-5!

So as found in the Lord's own Words, TESTING of anyone is the only means to SEPERATE the ones with WORKING OBEDIENT FAITH from the ones who become bastards. The Power was 'FREELY' there for these [[PARTAKERS]] LOVING USE (Phil. 4:13 + 2 Cor. 12:9) at the START of Acts 5:32 REQUIREMENT, yet the COST (Luke 14:28 ) WAS JUST MORE THAN THEY WOULD ACCEPT as time MATURED ON!

[1] Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
[2] Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
[3] For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
[4] Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
[5] And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

[6] For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

[7] If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

[8] But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Saved in sin & not from sin? No Law, under Grace, + old Israel's choice of the Lord's HOUSE over the LORD of the House, (Isa. 5:3) chastisement (punishment) was the tool used for having the 'house' saved & it ALWAY DID PRODUCE SUCH, A 'LITTLE REMNANT' of fully Matured who would die before dis/honor! Heb. 11:13

--Elijah

























 
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Deuteronomy 11:1-9
1 Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, alway.

2 And know ye this day: for I speak not with your children which have not known, and which have not seen the chastisement of the LORD your God, his greatness, his mighty hand, and his stretched out arm,

3 And his miracles, and his acts, which he did in the midst of Egypt unto Pharaoh the king of Egypt, and unto all his land;

4 And what he did unto the army of Egypt, unto their horses, and to their chariots; how he made the water of the Red sea to overflow them as they pursued after you, and how the LORD hath destroyed them unto this day;

5 And what he did unto you in the wilderness, until ye came into this place;

6 And what he did unto Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, the son of Reuben: how the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their households, and their tents, and all the substance that was in their possession, in the midst of all Israel:

7 But your eyes have seen all the great acts of the LORD which he did.

8 Therefore shall ye keep all the commandments which I command you this day, that ye may be strong, and go in and possess the land, whither ye go to possess it;

9 And that ye may prolong your days in the land, which the LORD sware unto your fathers to give unto them and to their seed, a land that floweth with milk and honey.

Job 34:31, 32
31 Surely it is meet to be said unto God, I have borne chastisement, I will not offend any more:

32 That which I see not teach thou me: if I have done iniquity, I will do no more.

Just as a child when our parents chastised us so even greater is our maturity in doing that which is right from to allow our Father in heaven give us correction that we may always be pleasing children to him.
 
[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

(Tested?? How so?????? by force or Loving Born Again Works?
There are these ones who do not believe it is needed to do Your WORK of Loving Obedience Lord! Kind of like Cain, who just flat out will not OBEY! Gen. 4:7)

[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (and what is that Lord?? 1 John 3:4
‘Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.’

So James 2:10 finds who all of these ones are! James 2 :10 ‘For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.’

But Lord, these have been around a long long time doing these ‘wonderful works they say! and casting out devil’s in YOUR NAME! But will NOT OBEY YOU, You document! )

[24] Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
[25] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
[26] And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
[27] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
[28] And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:

But did they OBEY IT?? Naw, not these ones, for you have the same repeat seen just before Christ Comes the Second time again seen in Rev. 17:1-5! Lord! Lord, I,I,I,I,I did this, I did that, look at me, I BELIEVE!! I AM SAVED!!!

--Elijah
 
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