The 1st Day of Creation

[derowr]

The 1st Day of Creation:

"The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of GOD moved upon the face of the waters." (Gen 1:2)

Then GOD spoke HIS Word into being.......

"Let there be Light"!

And "There was Light".......(Gen 1:3)

And such 'Light' was to be, and is, Eternal!

So it is that Hope is Alive!

Even though this wicked world begins and ends it's day in darkness it is good to realize that the 1st Day of Creation, although begun midst the darkness, ended in 'Light'! (Gen 1:5)

And such 'Light' was not the sun, moon or stars for they were not created until the 4th Day. (Gen 1:14-19)

GOD's Word "Let there be Light" became "The Light which enlightens every man born into the world" and was "the glory The Messiah had with Our Father before the world began".......(John 1:9, 17:5)

LIGHT Begot Light.......

LIKE Begot Like.......

The Messiah, "The Light of the world".......(Jn8:12)

The Messiah, "The beginning of The Creation of GOD".......(Rev1:1, 3:14)

The Messiah, "The Son of The Living GOD".......(John 6:69)

And Our Father, HE "created all things by(of, in and thru) The Messiah".......(Ep3:9)

The 1st Day of Creation.

"And GOD called The Light, Day, and the darkness HE called night. And the evening(darkness) and The Morning(Light) was The 1st Day." (Gen 1:5)

Now if the beginning can not be 'seen' nor understood, then what of the end?

Confusion would reign! And today confusion does reign midst the religious systems of this world, for apart from "The Light" there is only darkness, "the blind leading the blind" ;-(

"The Light" reveals that Faith will not create a religion for Faith IS Family!

And the Apostle Paul saw "The Light" that is The Messiah on the road to Damascus:

"At midday, O king, I saw in the way a Light from Heaven, which was above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.

And when we had all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.

And I said, Who are you, Master? And The Messiah said, I am Y'shua(for He spoke in the Hebrew tongue) Whom you are persecuting". (Acts 26:13-15)

GOD's Word "Let there be Light" became "The Light which enlightens every man born into the world", "The Light" that is The Messiah, and was "the glory The Messiah had with Our Father before the world began".......(John 1:9, 17:5)

Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion "for the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one", indeed and Truth.......(1John 5:19)

Truth IS, a lie never was and is not.......

Abide in Truth.......

 

[AKJVReader]

There are many other passages that talk about "light" maybe you could use a computer program to find a keyword on the word "light" or go to this site:
Online Bible concordance, easy to use Bible search, online Bible text (KJV) and commentary.

John 1:
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the LIGHT of men.
5 And the LIGHT shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the LIGHT, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that LIGHT, but was sent to bear witness of that LIGHT.
9 That was the true LIGHT, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

 

[derowr]

Why use a computer, when what i had posted was revealed?

And why post additional scripture when that which was posted reveals The Messiah came into being on the 1st Day of Creation?

What was posted reveals that The Messiah was "The beginning of The Creation of GOD" just as was bore witness too in Revelations?

The ONE and Only True GOD spoke HIS Word into being ""Let There Be Light" and there was Light"!

LIGHT begot Light and was "the glory The Messiah had with The[Our] Father before the world began"!

Peace, in spite of the dis-eases(lies) that are of this world and it's systems of religion....... francis

 

[derowr]

Please forgive the "tone" of my last post.

As i reread your comment i believe i might have misunderstood your intent.

It is well to remember that "GOD Created all things by The Messiah". (Eph3:9)

Father Help! and HE does.......

Peace....... francis

 

[handy]

I do disagree that Genesis 1 teaches that the Messiah "came into being" or was created on the first day. By looking at the parralle texts in John 1:1-3 we see,

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

This is clear that He was already there in the beginning, and all things came into being through Him. Not "came into being" but "was in the beginning".

Micah 5:2 reinforces this "But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel his goings forth are from long ago, from the days of eternity."

 

[Nathan]

I agree with handy. And I was thrilled to see this thread because it contains so much needed nourishment. It was a good piece of 'meat' I ate when I again thought about the fact that, as you pointed out, the 1st day ended in light.

What a joy to think that this 'darkness' will soon end in light also. So I hope that it was just a 'misuse' of the terminology of Christ "came into being". There is plenty of evidence, which I am sure you have seen, that proves the eternal existence of Christ.

But thanks for the contemplation of the first day. What a wonderful thing to think about.

 

[Hitch]

God is not part of the creation.

 

[Elijah674]

God is not part of the creation.

Hi, Gen. also said that let us make man in our image. (+) And on in the Word of God it states that God is a SPIRIT. (Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost)

So Gen. one covers 6 days of Their (The Godhead) creation. With every day starting with 'morning & ending with evening'. But NOTICE the underlining of the Word GOD, by me??

Gen.1

[1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
[2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
[3] And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
[4] And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
[5] And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
[6] And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
[7] And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
[8] And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
[9] And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
[10] And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
[11] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
[12] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[13] And the evening and the morning were the third day.
[14] And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
[15] And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
[16] And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
[17] And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
[18] And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
[19] And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
[20] And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
[21] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[22] And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
[23] And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
[28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
[29] And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
[30] And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
[31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

OK: What did Adam & Eve do on their very first day of Life!? And what was their very first 7th Day Sabbath Sermon all about that you think that God preached to them?

And one more thing. You do understand that it was uninspired man who put up the verse numbers?


--Elijah

 

[Hitch]

OK: What did Adam & Eve do on their very first day of Life!? And what was their very first 7th Day Sabbath Sermon all about that you think that God preached to them?

And one more thing. You do understand that it was uninspired man who put up the verse numbers?

First of all I have no idea what you asking here.

Second I cant figure out how this relates to what I posted.

Originally Posted by Hitch
God is not part of the creation.

 

[derowr]

I do disagree that Genesis 1 teaches that the Messiah "came into being" or was created on the first day. By looking at the parralle texts in John 1:1-3 we see,

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

This is clear that He was already there in the beginning, and all things came into being through Him. Not "came into being" but "was in the beginning".

i respond with a comment i made to someone else @ a different forum.

Someone had commented, "I am interested in how you synchronize your doctrine on GOD creating The Light with John's version".

i believe you are referring to John 1:1-5 and how John's testimony bears witness to The Messiah being "The Light" begotten by Our Father the 1st Day of Creation.

Father Help! and HE does.......

(John 1:1) "In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with GOD, and The Word was GOD."
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"In the beginning was The Word"

The 1st Day of Creation was the beginning.

And "In the beginning" GOD(Creator) WAS, and HE spoke The(HIS)Word "Let There Be Light" and "There was Light"!

"and The Word was with GOD"

GOD spoke The(HIS)Word "Let There Be Light" and The(HIS)Word "Let There Be Light" became "Light" and "was with GOD", HE WHO IS LIGHT!

"and The Word was GOD"

GOD spoke The(HIS)Word "Let There Be Light", "The(HIS)Word was GOD" and became Light!

LIGHT Begot Light!

The Messiah, "The True Light(The Light of Truth) which enlightens every man born into this world."(John 1:9)

The Messiah, "The beginning of The Creation of GOD(Our Father)!"(Rev3:14)

So it is that The Messiah, the first begotten of Our Father, testified "The Father is Greater than I."(John 14:28)

"The Light", "the glory The Messiah had with Our Father before the world began."(John 17:5)
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(John 1:2-5) "The same was in the beginning with GOD. All things were made by Him, and without Him was not any thing made that was made. In Him was Life; and The Life was The Light of men. And The Light(The Messiah)shinned midst the darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."

"To make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning (as in John 1:2) of the world has been hid in GOD, WHO Created all things by The Messiah(The(GOD’S)Word "Let There Be Light")."(Eph 3:9)

Our Father(Creator)created "all things" of, by, in and thru The Messiah(The(GOD’S)Word "Let There Be Light").
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(John 1:14) "And The(GOD’S)Word("Let There Be Light") was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His(The Messiah) glory, the glory as of the only begotten of The Father, full of Grace and Truth."

"The Light" was "the glory The Messiah had with Our Father before the world began."(John 17:5)



And finally it was as The Messiah testified, "He answered and said unto him, "if a man loves Me, he will keep My Words, and My Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that does not love Me does not keep My sayings, and The Word which you hear is not Mine, but is The Word of The Father WHO sent Me."" (John 14:23-24)

Father Help! and HE does.......


So there is Hope!

For Miracles do happen.......


Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is receiving "the love of The Truth" for they will "see" The Light that is The Messiah.......


Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this wicked world. for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth.......(1John5:19)

Truth IS, a lie never was and is not.......

Abide in Truth.......

 

[jasoncran]

how that which was created in the beginning be God.

john 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God.

also paul didnt state that a women couldnt teach a man at all. if so then where was timothy gonna the word that he heard from his mother and grandmother.

so God made jesus and yet he was God too? read unto vs 14. there and kindly explain.

 

[derowr]

God is not part of the creation.

Absolutely!

For The ONE and Only True GOD, Father of ALL, HE IS Creator of ALL!

"GOD Created all things by The Messiah"! (Eph 3:9)

 

[derowr]

how that which was created in the beginning be God.

john 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God.

also paul didnt state that a women couldnt teach a man at all. if so then where was timothy gonna the word that he heard from his mother and grandmother.

so God made jesus and yet he was God too? read unto vs 14. there and kindly explain.

A man and wo-man's relationship is quite different than a child with mother and grandmother!

As for your other remarks, i believe they were already responded too in a previous post.

 

[jasoncran]

Absolutely!

For The ONE and Only True GOD, Father of ALL, HE IS Creator of ALL!

"GOD Created all things by The Messiah"! (Eph 3:9)

lovely. may i ask if you are jehovah's witness? that is what you are preaching. the messiah is God's son and some arc angel like micheal and was used by God to make creation.

 

[Alabaster]

What has this to do with anything here?

 

[jasoncran]

A man and wo-man's relationship is quite different than a child with mother and grandmother!

As for your other remarks, i believe they were already responded too in a previous post.

first off then keep that insult to handy off the open boards. violations of the tos will be dealt with.

and now that wasnt. basic english says that the messiah is GOD, is messiah God and fully God.

if not you have a problem.

 

[derowr]

And one more thing. You do understand that it was uninspired man who put up the verse numbers?
--Elijah

Sadly, it is so ;-(

Have you not seen that there were two Creations separate one from the other?

Cain new his wife because she was of that first Creation.

 

[derowr]

first off then keep that insult to handy off the open boards. violations of the tos will be dealt with.

and now that wasnt. basic english says that the messiah is GOD, is messiah God and fully God.

if not you have a problem.

Your words reveal your problem ;-(

Simply sad for you ;-(

 

[jasoncran]

Your words reveal your problem ;-(

Simply sad for you ;-(

i can read buddy, i will say this openly, i ask for politeness from you to handy.

and i didnt believe in the trinity at all but was a jw for yrs. i came to christ and saw what the bible says. i know your entire argument from front to rear.

 

[Alabaster]

Sadly, it is so ;-(

Have you not seen that there were two Creations separate one from the other?

Cain new his wife because she was of that first Creation.

That's just crazy.