williamt
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Speaking of Scripture.... got John 6:44 yet?cute
Calvinism's godlet is still a monster having more in common with the demon "Allah" than with the God of scripture.
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Speaking of Scripture.... got John 6:44 yet?cute
Calvinism's godlet is still a monster having more in common with the demon "Allah" than with the God of scripture.
Hi Bill, That is what you get for studying all of the Bible....The Truth. I find it strange that many who claim to be Christians are waiting for a falling away of the Church using the Scripture text of (2 Thess. 2: 3) as proof. But the falling away from Church Doctrine of Christ as taught by the Disciples started right away and has increased through the ages. Reaching a zenith at one time, starting at some date in the 1st century, and became world wide as a corrupt Church and then broke up in to many corrupt doctrines. each claiming their own self willed worship not known to Christ and His Disciples. And yet, many a so called Christians are waiting for a falling away of the Church when they are standing in the middle of a multitude of corrupt teachings. What they call a falling away is a taken away of the Church. And so many self willed false religions are so intent that they are right, that when the Church is called out, they will explain it away.
- This is descriptive of the True God, not the god of arminism, pateism, freewillism which all tend to glorify the will of men, the creature, over and above the Will of God !
Since you seem to like to play "dueling proof-texts" I already posted Jhn 12:32 and I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.Speaking of Scripture.... got John 6:44 yet?
Since you seem to like to play "dueling proof-texts" I already posted Jhn 12:32 and I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.
Last time I checked, "all" meant "all."
Proof-texting is the source of an astounding accumulation of meadow muffins since it takes a verse (as if verses stand alone) out of its context and uses it to make a point that the rest of scripture does not support.
Cute and insulting
hello williamt, dirtfarmer hereSpeaking of Scripture.... got John 6:44 yet?
Verses are not written in a vacuum.hello williamt, dirtfarmer here
John 12:32 " And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me."
How would you harmonize this verse with the verse that you gave, John 6:44?
No it doesn't.It reads 1 Tim 2:4
4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
They suppose that Gods will here is subjected to the will of men,
No it doesn't.
There is not a hint of a suggestion that anyone thinks God's will might be subjected to the will of men.
Apparently you have not considered that, since God is completely sovereign, He is able to make the sovereign decision to allow men to exercise their free will.