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The antichrist (coming false messiah)

2 Thessalonians 2:3
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a
falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"

1 John 2:18
"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even
now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."

The Antichrist is also known as:
son of perdition
man of sin
false messiah (this is not used in scripture but is what I call him)

"The Antichrist will be a man so wicked that, bad as other men are, wickedness should be his mark by
which he is distinguished from all others; a man who belongs to sin, in whom the ideal of sin has
become realised and incarnate. What kind of sin will be most prominent in him is not expressed in the
word itself; but the context points clearly to that which is, in fact, the crowning sin-spiritual pride
and rebellious arrogancy." -Ellicott commentary on 2 Thessalonians 2:3

The title "Man of Sin" excludes Satan, as Chrysostom remarks: Satan acts through the man to the full
extent of his power-"enters into him," as he entered into an earlier "Son of Perdition"-but
does not destroy his humanity.

2 Thessalonians 2:9
"even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,"

He will come to deceive the world that he is the messiah. He will be very charismatic to the unlearned eye.
Those that do not strictly follow Christ will not be able to distinguish between the spirit of the world (the Devil)
and the spirit of Christ. He will be able to perform miracles just as Jesus did, but it will be from Satan not God.

2 Thessalonians 2:4
"who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

Many Christians have mistakenly took the above scripture as the false messiah sitting
in a literal rebuilt temple.

"Though the image is drawn from the Jewish temple, we may say with some confidence that St. Paul
did not expect the Antichrist as a prose fact to take his seat in that edifice. Neither is the
metaphor to be pressed into a mere synonym of "the Church". The words, so far
need not necessarily mean that the Man of Sin will make special claims upon the Christian
community as such. Rather, the whole phrase, "taking his seat in the temple of God," is a poetical
or prophetical description of usurping divine prerogatives generally: not the prerogatives of the
true God alone, but whatever prerogatives have been offered to anything "called God." Though
the prophecy might be fulfilled without any symbolical act (e.g., of assuming any material throne),
yet the spontaneousness ("himself") and the openness ("showing himself") seem so essentially parts
of the prophecy as of necessity to imply that the Man of Sin will make formal claim to occupy
that central seat in men's minds and aspirations which is acknowledged to be due to God alone.
The formal making of this claim seems to be identical with the apocalypse of the Man of Sin,
the act by which he is manifested or revealed." - Ellicott commentary on 2 Thessalonians 2:4

Religions around the world are awaiting the arrival of their messiah.
Jews await the messiah. Even though He already came.
Buddhists await Maitreya.
Hindus await Kalki.
Muslims await Mahdi.
Taoists await Li Hong.
Zoroastrianists await Saoshyant.
And there are other false spiritual paths/religions that really just worship fallen angels (demons)
who also are expecting a messiah. They will all receive the Antichrist and one world religion gladly.

Even Christians await the return of Jesus Christ, the true messiah. But only true Christians that
read and study the word of God as if their lives depend on it, because it does, know that the
false messiah, the Antichrist must be revealed first to deceive the world that he is the
messiah, that he is God. Just as 2 Thessalonians 2:3 tells us.

This deception of the Antichrist that will deceive most of the world into believing that he is
the true messiah, that he is God. This may be part of the falling away spoken of in 2 Thessalonians 2:3.
Hypocritical Christians who do not walk in true obedience and faith with Jesus Christ and
Father Jehovah will be deceived by the Antichrist, and fall away.

This deception of the Antichrist may also be related to the delusion spoken of in 2 Thessalonians 2:11.
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"

I believe we are fast approaching these end time events that must happen before the return of
Jesus Christ. I believe we are only a short space away
from planned events to bring these prophecies to fruition.
 
Even Christians await the return of Jesus Christ, the true messiah. But only true Christians that
read and study the word of God as if their lives depend on it, because it does, know that the
false messiah, the Antichrist must be revealed first to deceive the world that he is the
messiah, that he is God. Just as 2 Thessalonians 2:3 tells us.

Amen.

The antichrist must be revealed first.

How is he revealed as the antichrist, the false christ, to the Jews so that they are deceived into believing their “messiah” has come?


“Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand. Matthew 24:15



JLB
 
It seems like I hear quite a bit of talk that Obama is the anti Christ. And I think that's so stupid and couldn't be, because isn't the Anti-Christ supposed to have charisma and many people love him? For real?! I think he's always acted like a punk and not likable at all.
 
The Bible never defines just one antichrist, but says even now there are many and in the end of days will be the last time, 1 John 2:18. We have to remember that Satan is a created spirit and needs to work through others in order to build his literal kingdom here on earth as the war in heaven between Michael and Satan has not happened yet, Rev 12:7-12. This will be a Luciferian system of political, economic, military, educational and false religious power that founded in 1534 with its headquarters in Rome, Italy that will sit upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north which is Jerusalem on the same Temple mount of God where the Dome of the Rock is being refurbished for the son of perdition to take its seat. This power of the beast out of the sea gives power to the beast out of the earth who will control the government of every nation and even now works its iniquity in the world, Rev 13.

The beast that will rise up out of the sea, as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15, gives power to the beast that comes up out of the earth who is the last antichrist/ false prophet/son of perdition. His works is the abomination that causes desolation that Jesus forewarned us of in Matthew 24:15 and Daniel who explained this last of the seven remaining nations that still exist today and has always persecuted God's people from the time of Babylon up to present day unto the end of days, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13; Revelation 17:15. This will be the time of the greatest falling away from truth as this last antichrist, through lying signs and wonders will promise peace and safety and then sudden destruction comes upon them who bow down and takes the mark of this beast, 1 Thessalonians 5:1-6.

Jesus said those who will endure in the faith of Christ unto the end the same shall be saved, Matthew 24:13. Satan said, I will ascend into heaven; I will exalt my throne above the stars of God (other ruling powers) I will sit also upon the Mount of the Congregation in the sides of the north (Jerusalem). I will ascend above the clouds, I will be like the Most High, Isaiah 14:12-15. The last antichrist, (as there have been many and even now are in the world), is the son of perdition being the false prophet that Satan works through as he will sit on the sides of the North declaring himself as being God and will cause many to bow down to him and take his mark as many will believe the lying signs and wonders he will show, Rev 13. Again, nowhere in scripture does it capitalize antichrist, but mans misinterpretations capitalize it and makes it one Antichrist that we are to watch for before Christ returns.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
But only true Christians thatr readand study the word of God as if their lives depend on it,

One of the things I find really disturbing about the second coming prophets is there repeated separating of Christians int 'true' or 'real', or some other adjective denoting the Christian from all other Christians.

I see no justification for this anywhere in scripture.
It is either one is a Christian or one is not.

It is like when charismatic gifts were all the fashion. If one spoke in tongues one was a proper Christian, if one didn't then you were 2nd class, a lesser Christian?

I wonder whether these deluded people realise how diversive they are being and how much against the Spirit of Jesus they are.
 
After further research I have concluded that I need to do even further research on the man of sin/son of perdition spoken of in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 as I am not entirely sure whether he truly is a single man or really just a succession of men or a mass movement (group). We all need to thoroughly research the word of God, the Holy Bible, and let God lead us.
 
After further research I have concluded that I need to do even further research on the man of sin/son of perdition spoken of in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 as I am not entirely sure whether he truly is a single man or really just a succession of men or a mass movement (group). We all need to thoroughly research the word of God, the Holy Bible, and let God lead us.

Maybe this will help with your study of the antichrist.

Rev 13:1-4
John saw a beast (beast is often referred to as nations in scripture) rise up out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns and upon his horns ten crowns, (crowns denotes Kings) and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

The beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is the Luciferian political, economic, educational and false religious system who gives its power and authority to the beast out of the earth who is the false prophet (son of perdition) who will cause a great falling away, but will be consumed by the spirit of the mouth of Christ when He returns, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 19:11-21. USA especially Washington DC was founded on this system and have always followed after the beast out of the sea. USA is a Christian nation and will come under great persecution from the two beast.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire and Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. The deadly wound was healed in 1929 by Mousilini.

Seven of these nations are the ancestors of the modern nations of Europe.
These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (English), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

The beast (NWO) was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies and power was given unto him to continue for three and a half years which equals 1260 days, Daniel 7:25; 12:7; Revelation 11:2, 3. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints and to overcome them and power was given him over all kindred’s, and tongues, and nations. Daniel 7:24, 25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Their secret mission will soon come to fruition in the last days before the great and terrible day of the Lord as we see during the seventh trumpet how this beast will deceive the world into taking its mark. The mark of the beast could possibly be some barcode or micro chip one has to receive in order to buy or sell, but what is important is the thoughts of the mind and actions of the hands of what one will subject themselves to in order to survive as much of the worlds resources will be gone during the time of the first six trumpet chastisements of God as He warns people they need to repent and turn back to Him, 2 Chronicles 7:14.

The mark of the beast is to those who have no understanding of the word of God as they reject the teachings of Christ as they are lovers of self, 2 Timothy 3:1-7 and will allow themselves to be deceived in their mind as they reach out with their hands and bow down to this Luciferian false religion that promises them provision, peace and safety during the time of Gods great wrath in the end of days as they have no faith in Jesus who supplies all our needs, Philippians 4:19. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints as they wait upon the Lords return. They will have to wholeheartedly draw on the Lords strength without hindrance while enduring the 3 1/2 years of this beast in the end of days.
 
read and study the word of God as if their lives depend on it,

You have this strange idea of works that saves.

Scripture is clear we are saved by faith and that is a gift from God.

We do not have to be packed and ready to leave, merely living as Christians.

So many of these obsessive second comers make an issue out of we must dot the I and cross the t's of the correct orthodox reformed weird believe and it is totally unnecessary.

Jesus knows those who are his and he will not loose any of them.
 
You have this strange idea of works that saves.

Scripture is clear we are saved by faith and that is a gift from God.

We do not have to be packed and ready to leave, merely living as Christians.

So many of these obsessive second comers make an issue out of we must dot the I and cross the t's of the correct orthodox reformed weird believe and it is totally unnecessary.

Jesus knows those who are his and he will not loose any of them.


But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
“Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:13-21


  • But he who endures to the end shall be saved.



JLB
 
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