The Beast with Seven Heads, Ten Horns Video

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The Beast with Seven Heads and Ten Horns



1 Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.

2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. (Revelation 13:1-3)



John points to Daniel as the key to interpreting the symbolism by saying "then I stood on the sand of the sea", because Daniel did the same when "four great beasts came up from the sea" in Daniel 7:3. Another clue is the seven heads and ten horns, if you add up the heads on Daniel's four beasts, they total seven heads and the fourth beast in Daniel has ten horns (Daniel 7:3-7). The final kingdom Nebuchadnezzar saw had ten toes, on two legs symbolizing Eastern and Western parts of the Roman Empire (Daniel 2:40-41). Another fact, in Daniel 7:17 the beasts are also the kings who rule the kingdoms. That explains how the Beast kingdom in Revelation can also refer to the Antichrist ruler of it.



Unlike Daniel, John sees the composite kingdom, the final form of Daniels fourth beast with ten horns. As the Dragon is described as having seven heads ten horns we must conclude its through these Satan has fought against the Kingdom of God on earth.



The angel supplies the clue which kingdoms are the Seven head kingdoms, five of which are fallen (Rev. 17:10) but "one is" as John wrote:

1)Ancient Babylon with its Tower, 2)Assyria, 3)Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon, 4)Medo-Persian, 5)Grecian 6)"one is" Roman, 7) the British Empire.



Without the British Empire and its Belfour declaration modern Israel wouldn't exist which was necessary for many of the End Time prophecies to occur. It fits perfectly the description it had "not yet come" but "when he comes he must continue a short time." In 1917 the British issued the Balfour Declaration, expressing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine. In 1920: The League of Nations awarded Britain the mandate over Palestine following the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in World War I. In 1922: The Mandate for Palestine officially took effect, with Britain administering the region. In 1947: The United Nations proposed a partition plan to create separate Jewish and Arab states. In 1948: Britain ended its mandate on May 14, 1948, and Israel declared independence on the same day. The Belfour declaration made Israel happen, but Britian controlled Israel only for a short time, its UN mandate ended and it left.



In Revelation 17:11 the angel reveals the Beast John saw rise from the sea is "the eigth kingdom", arising from the seven kingdoms before it. This eighth king is the ten horn version of the Roman Empire that rises for seven years in the End Time Week. It goes off into total destruction at Armageddon.



The final ten horned form of the Roman Empire will rise in the last seven year week revealed in Revelation. How do we know the end time is seven years long? God's two witnesses Moses and Elijah preach for 3.5 years, when at mid week (Daniel 9:27) the "man of sin" Chancelor Adonikam reveals he is the "seed of Satan" thus "rising from the abyss" of evil morphing into the "Son of Perdition" prophesied to come (Genesis 3:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:3), and then he kills the two witnesses (Revelation 11:7). Now speaking through his blasphemous mouth, he rules another 3.5 years or forty two months (Revelation 13:5-6). That totals seven years.



The "two phases" of the Antichrist, first the benign "Chancelor" false Christ who speaks with the "lion's mouth" (Revelation 13:2) making a covenant with the world's religions they could continue to worship their own gods (Daniel 9:27), then changes like the Dark Sith Lord in Star Wars to become the evil Emperor speaking out of his blasphemous mouth that was given at that time (Revelation 13:5; Daniel 7:8, 20; 8:11-12; 9:27; 11:36-37; 2 Thessalonians 2:4).



As for the ten horns, they only for "one hour as kings with the beast" (Revelation 17:12) so we don't know who they will be, yet.



The New World Order rises from the "sea of chaos," home to Leviathan that crooked serpent "the dragon who lives in the sea" (Isaiah 27:1). Satan demanded a global liaison be created so he could work with the entire earth and not nations separately. When Michael and his angels cast Satan and his angels out of heaven, they appear on earth claiming to be the "Elohim Designers" of life on earth, and that Yahweh God is a jealous extraterrestrial who doesn't want humanity to achieve great knowledge and attain immortality. The Dragon Commander Satan claims he has come to liberate the earth from the tyranny of Yahweh. With this Big Lie he hopes to change times and law (Daniel 7:25) the foundation of human governance.



In Daniel 2 we learn the composite Roman Empire is made of countries from the Eastern and Western parts of Rome. From the overlap in Daniel 7 and 8 and the focus on Antiochus in Daniel 11, we conclude Adonikam is the Assyrian (Micah 5:5-6; Nahum 1:11), a Descendent of Antiochus so of Grecian descent. That is why the body of the beast is a leopard. From the phrase "God of his fathers" (Daniel 11:37-38) and Paul's likening him to Judas the "son of perdition" (2 Thessalonians 2:3; John 17:12) its clear Adonikam is a miracle working Christian Jew like Judas, who betrays Christ.



When the apostate Church accepts his claims (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4), it ends the Christian "daily sacrifice" of taking up the cross of Christ (Daniel 8:12-13; 11:31; 12:11). This has nothing to do with a Jewish Temple because in the New Covenant the Church is the Temple of God (1 Corinthians 3:16-17; 6:19; 2 Corinthians 6:16; Ephesians 2:21), its members are Temple priests (1 Peter 2:5). Christians offer up "the Daily Sacrifice" (1 Peter 2:5; Romans 12:1; Luke 9:23; Hebrews 13:15). Paul would never call as Christ rejecting Temple the "Temple of God" and Jesus' prophecy of the literal Temple's destruction is in force until Israel cries out "blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord" (Matthew 23:38-39).





The Wound to the Head killed a head (ancient Babylon), but the Beast survives a sword wound without healing.



Many overlook the shift from past tense (Revelation 13:11) to present tense (Revelation 13:12–18). This proves the wound to the head and the wound to the beast occurred at different times. Other differences confirm this. The head wound killed the head and a miracle healing caused it to rise from the dead. Ancient Babylon was dead and buried under desert sand, until revived by Satan whose fallen angel technology fills the city with Babylonian Tower-like wonders that causes the earth to marvel and worship both the New World Order and the Dragon.



The Sword Wound to the Beast only weakened it, and it survives without healing.



The Beast’s wound was by a sword and it survived (Revelation 13:14). The sword wounded it when forces from rebuilt Babylon's North (Russia, Iran, Turkey Jeremiah 50:41-42; 51:47-48) destroyed it (Jeremiah 50:3, 13, 39-40; 51:29; Rev. 18:2-10). Thus all Old Testament prophecies of Babylon's destruction were literally fulfilled. This was God's judgment against her (Revelation 17:16-17; 18:8, 21; Isaiah 13:19-22; Jeremiah 51:63-64).

 

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Revelation 13 explains the persecution of the woman and her offspring from the previous chapter.
Revelation 12:14
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

The description of the beast of the sea that receives the power, the throne and the dragon’s great authority is taken from the animals of Daniel 7.
Daniel 7:2-4
7:2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

Most everyone agrees this is Babylon.
Daniel 7:5
7:5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

Same agreement that this is Medi-Persia
Daniel 7:6
7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

Pretty much all agree this is Greece
Daniel 7:7
7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

Here we see Pagan Rome with the ten horns, which are the nations which came up with it. The sea beast of Revelation 13 is similar to the leopard of Daniel 7, Greece, indicating it will be influenced strongly by Greek philosophy. It has feet like a bear, Medo-Persia, which points to the influence of Persian religion, Mithraism, on the sea beast. His mouth was like a lion of Daniel 7, reminiscent of Babylon and its military power.

The persecutions announced in Revelation 13 are directly related to “worship”. In the end there will be only two groups, those who worship God on His day, and those who worship the dragon and the beast on their substitute day.

John watches as a monstrous beast rises out of the sea. While a beast represents a political power, the description of the sea beast points to a political power that has religion as a dominant characteristic.

The sea symbolizes the largely populated area of Europe out of which the sea beast rises to power after the downfall of the Roman Empire as we see in Revelation 17.
Revelation 17:15
And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

John describes the beast as it emerges from the water. The beast has seven heads and ten horns, the same as the dragon in showing its close connection with pagan Rome in Daniel 7 beast, and we see the heads and horns.
Revelation 12:3
And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Revelation 13:1
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Upon the heads of the beast is a blasphemous name, and upon the horns are royal crowns. The heads of the beast are the kingdoms that Satan has used to persecute God’s people throughout history. The blasphemous name points to the divine title the beast claims. The ten horns point to Daniel 7 symbolizing the nations that sprang out of the Roman Empire after its demise. These characteristics of the sea beast all point to the papacy that grew out of the Roman Empire.

The dragon gave the beast his power, his throne, and great authority. Just as the God the Father has given His throne and authority to Christ, so Satan invests the beast as his coregent and representative on earth.

Now we see in verse Daniel 7:8 and verse 25 that the little horn had eye`s like the eyes of a man and a mouth speaking great things and it "he shall think to change the times and the law; and they shall be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time." or 1260 prophetic years.
Daniel 7:8
I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Dan 7:25. He shall speak words against the Most High and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and he shall think to change the times and the law; and they shall be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.

And we see that at the end the Little Horn power or Papal Rome will be destroyed at the coming of Christ...
Daniel 7:26
Dan 7:26. But the court shall sit in judgment, and his dominion shall be taken away, to be consumed and destroyed to the end.

So we see several points of history which show who the Little Horn power is as it came to power from among the ten divisions of Europe which were the ten horns. It began as "a little horn" or a little power at its beginning then after the three uprooted horns, the Heruli, the Vandals, and the Ostrogoths were taken out of the way as history shows us. So is we look at the little horn, we see it has a man at its head and it is different than the others.
Daniel 7:8
I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

The little horn, not only had temporal or "state" powers, but we see it starts to blaspheme 'mouth speaking great things', so the little horn was a "church-state" combination, and we see more.
Daniel 7:25
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

The Little Horn would speak 'great words against the most High' or blasphemy. And we see the definition of blasphemy from the Bible is to claim to be God and/or to claim to be able to forgive sin. The Little Horn power would persecute or 'wear out the saints' and kill many of the faithful. And we see this in the Dark Ages, during the 'time and times and the dividing of time' or 1,260 years this Little Horn entity's persecutions brought the death of millions and the Little Horn power would think to change times and law. We have to study and discern what scripture tells on this Little Horn entity, and understand..

 

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Now we go back and compare with Revelation 13 and we see in verse 5states that the period of the beast’s persecuting activities through Christian history is 42 “months”. As we have seen, persecution of the pure woman lasted for “a time and times and half a time;” that is three and a half “times” or prophetic “years”. Forty-two prophetic “months” equals 30 days multiplied by 42, or 1,260 days/years. We can compare the time given in Revelation 12, 13 and Daniel 12
Revelation 12:14
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Revelation 13:5
And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

The same is true for the time given "that it shall be for a time, times, and an half" for Daniel 12:7
Daniel 12:7
And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

In fact we can connect it to many more and also what the length of the period is for the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation as seen in the use of "time, times and half a time" (i.e. 1+2+0.5=3.5), "1,260 days" and "42 months". These references represent a period of 1260 years as you have to take in account of the 360 day Jewish year multiplied by 3.5. These time periods occur eight times in scripture:
Daniel 7:25, "time, times and a half".
Daniel 9:27, "half one set of seven".
Daniel 12:7, "time, times and a half".
Revelation 11:2, "42 months".
Revelation 11:3, "1260 days".
Revelation 12:6, "1260 days".
Revelation 12:14, "time, times and a half".
Revelation 13:5, "42 months".

Notice it is in the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation and clearly shows this period of 1260 years of the 'little horn/Beast' power prevailing in the church.

Therefore, “a time and times and half a time”, 42 “months”, and 1,260 “days” all refer to the same time period of 1,260 years. This phase ends when John sees “one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded” . The subsequent healing of this “deadly wound” points to a time after 1798 when the beast would be revived and its power restored, so we have to see how this happens.

Now history shows the 1,260 year Prophecy began in the year 538 AD when Belisarius, the famous general of Justinian I, defeated the Arian Ostrogoths surrounding Rome and were driven away, allowing the bishop of Rome to assert control of Christian churches according to the decree of Justinian in 533. The period ended in 1798 AD, when the French general Berthier entered Rome, proclaimed a republic and took the Pope prisoner.

This is a good study on the starting point of 538 AD for the 1260-year prophecy, and easy to grasp:

"But with the rise of Napoleon, and the exile into captivity of the pope by French general Berthier, there was a rare moment of near prophetic unanimity among Protestant expositors, who declared that this period ended in A.D. 1798. It was a matter, then, of running the period backward to find the starting point, which would be A.D. 538....A careful study of Daniel 7:24-26 and some related prophetic passages reveals that the decisive events of the terminal moments of the 1,260 years should be understood primarily legally, rather than militarily. Once this legal framework is understood and given its due weight it becomes clearer how the 538 event relates to the 1798 event. In a nutshell, the Justinian Code, which was completed in 534, 'enacted orthodox Christianity into law,' placed the pope as the formal head of Christendom, ?ordered all Christian groups to submit to [his] authority,? and gave him civil power of life and death over heretics.

This code, however, did not become legally promulgated and enacted on the ground until the siege of Rome was lifted in 538. Justinian's general, Belisarius, had entered Rome unopposed at the end of 536, but shortly thereafter the Ostrogoths came and laid siege to Rome. After about a year the siege was broken, and Belisarius had control of Rome and its environs.5 It was then that the provisions of the code elevating the Papacy could actually be implemented by Belisarius beyond the borders of Rome itself. The Gothic Wars continued, with the Ostrogoths being finally driven out in 553.

But these later battles and sieges did not nullify the papal-centered legal system that had been put into place in 538. Even when Rome fell again to the Goths, they did not control the Papacy, as at that time it was operating outside Rome. 'After 538,' Adventist scholar Jean Zukowski observed, ]the papacy never came back under the control of the Ostrogothic kings.'7 The papal system, placed at the head of Christendom and given the power of life and death over heretics by the Justinian Code, endured in the West for more than 1,000 years, being given a great boost in the legal revolutions of the eleventh and twelfth centuries, forming the legal scaffolding of many modern states.8 That is, until the secular revolutions of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, where the code and its religious character were explicitly rejected.

These secular revolutions began with the French Revolution, which soon led to the capture and exile of the pope by Berthier in 1798. But again, more significant than the military/political event of the capture and exile was the replacement of the religious-centric Justinian Code by the secular Napoleonic Code. The secular code was implemented by the famous bill number 8 of February 15, 1798, where General Berthier declared Rome an independent republic and 'in consequence, every other temporal authority emanating from the old government of the Pope, is suppressed, and it shall no more exercise any function.'" Understanding the 1,260-year Prophecy | Adventist World

 

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Now there are many Bible scholars who have gone over Daniel 7 and are in agreement that it is these empires Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, and Rome, with the Roman Empire then what arose in Rome after, a entity composed of a religious aspect but a temporal one also. Here is from a main religious site, What are the four beasts in Daniel chapter 7? | GotQuestions.org
'The first of Daniel’s four beasts is “like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle” (Daniel 7:4). As Daniel watches, the wings are torn off the beast, and the creature stands erect like a man and a human mind is given to it. Later, the angel who interprets the dream tells Daniel, “The four great beasts are four kings that will rise from the earth” (verse 17). This first beast is representative of King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. Its rise to human-like status reflects Nebuchadnezzar’s deliverance from a beastly existence and his insight into the true nature of God (Daniel 4:34–35).

The second beast in Daniel’s vision is “like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth” (Daniel 7:5). A voice tells the second beast to devour flesh until it is satisfied. This beast represents the Medo-Persian Empire; the raising up of one side of the creature indicates that one of the kingdom’s parts (Persia) would be dominant. The three ribs in the creature’s mouth symbolize nations that were “devoured” by the Medes and the Persians. These three conquered nations are known to be Babylon, Lydia, and Egypt.

The third of the four beasts is “like a leopard,” except it has four bird-like wings on its back and four heads (Daniel 7:6). This beast is given authority to rule. The third beast represents Greece, an empire known for the swiftness of its conquests. The four heads are predictive of the four-way division of the empire following Alexander the Great’s death. Daniel’s vision of the ram and the goat gives further details of the second and third kingdoms (see Daniel 8).

The final beast that Daniel sees rising from the sea is the most dreadful—“terrifying and frightening and very powerful” (Daniel 7:7). This fourth beast has “bronze claws” (verse 19) and “large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left” totally annihilating its prey (verse 7). The fourth beast has ten horns. This creature represents the Roman Empire, a mighty kingdom that indeed crushed all its foes.'....

 

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Here is another...

The first beast: the Chaldean or Babylonian Empire​

The lion was symbolic of the kingdom of Babylon and the “man’s heart” was that of its most notable king, Nebuchadnezzar, who is written about considerably in the first four chapters of Daniel.

As The Expositor’s Bible Commentary explains, “The lion symbol was characteristic of Babylon, especially in Nebuchadnezzar’s time, when the Ishtar Gate entrance was adorned on either side with a long procession of yellow lions on blue-glazed brick, fashioned in high relief” (1985, Vol. 7, pp. 85-86).

The eagle’s wings plucked off the lion were symbolic of Nebuchadnezzar’s time of insanity when he was humbled by God to learn that “the Most High rules in the kingdom of men” (Daniel 4:17, 34-37).

Nebuchadnezzar ruled from Babylon to Asia Minor and from the Caspian Sea to Egypt. Biblically, his most notable conquest was that of the nation of Judah, with Daniel being the most famous captive from that nation.

Following his father’s death, Nebuchadnezzar reigned as king of Babylon for 43 years, from 604-561 B.C. (JewishEncyclopedia.com/Nebuchadnezzar). After his death, Babylon continued as a strong empire until 539 B.C., when it was conquered by the second rising power in Daniel’s vision, the Medo-Persian Empire.

The second beast: the Medo-Persian Empire​

Daniel 7:5 says, “And suddenly another beast, a second, like a bear. It was raised up on one side, and had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. And they said thus to it: ‘Arise, devour much flesh!’”

This beast’s being “raised up on one side” represents the Persians being greater than the Medes in this federated empire. This is made plain to Daniel in a vision two years later when he sees a ram with two horns, one being higher than the other. Daniel is told by the angel Gabriel that the ram represents the kings of Media and Persia (Daniel 8:3, 20).

The three ribs that are devoured represent three empires conquered by Persia’s first great king, Cyrus the Great, and his son, Cambyses II. Cyrus came to power in 558 B.C. and conquered the Lydian Empire (Asia Minor) in 546 and the Chaldean Empire (Babylon) in 539; and Cambyses conquered Egypt in 525 (ibid., p. 86).

The Medo-Persian Empire lasted for 200 years and, under later kings, expanded toward Greece in the west and to India in the east. At one point, the Persian Empire covered parts of three continents: Asia, Africa and Europe. But, like the Chaldean Empire, the Persian Empire finally came to an end. A new beast was rising in the west, and its appointed time had come.

The third beast: the Greco-Macedonian Empire​

Daniel 7:6 says, “After this I looked, and there was another, like a leopard, which had on its back four wings of a bird. The beast also had four heads, and dominion was given to it.”

As with the second beast, the third beast is clearly identified by the angel Gabriel. It was Greece, and the “first king” was Alexander the Great. After his untimely death in 323 B.C., his empire was divided into four smaller kingdoms (Daniel 8:21-22).

The symbol of the leopard with four wings portrays the swiftness of Alexander’s sudden rise and conquest of the Persian Empire from 334-331 B.C. After his death, several years of struggle ensued that resulted in the division of his empire into four kingdoms. The new kingdoms were (1) Greece and Macedon, (2) Thrace and Asia Minor, (3) Middle East-Asia and (4) Egypt-Palestine.

“After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. It had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.”The last two were ruled by Seleucus, who began the Seleucid Empire, and Ptolemy, who began the Ptolemaic Empire. These two kingdoms are called the king of North and the king of the South in Daniel 11.

Approximately two centuries later, the fourth beast conquered all of these kingdoms and expanded far beyond the lands conquered by the previous beasts.

Daniel 11 shows that the king of North and the king of the South will revive and play major roles in end-time prophecies.

The fourth beast, dreadful and terrible: the Roman Empire​

Next in Daniel 7:7 we read, “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. It had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.”

The devouring teeth of iron and the trampling feet correspond with Nebuchadnezzar’s vision of the fourth kingdom being strong as iron, breaking in pieces and crushing all others (Daniel 2:40-41). When the Roman Empire came to power under the Caesars (44 B.C.) it devoured, broke in pieces and trampled the residue of its enemies with its feet—as was described in Daniel’s vision in Daniel 7.

The fourth beast is quite different from the previous beasts, in that it has 10 horns. Daniel 7:24 says, “The ten horns are ten kings who shall arise from this kingdom.” Historically, these revivals began to rise after the fall of Rome in A.D. 476, with the later ones under a new name: the Holy Roman Empire. (For additional information, see “What Is Babylon?”).

This fourth beast would continue to be revived off and on for over 1,500 years until the end-time 10th revival. The 10th and final revival will be destroyed by Jesus Christ at His second coming (Daniel 7:26-27).

This leads to one other unusual feature of the prophecy of the fourth beast.

The little horn​

Daniel 7:8 says, “I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words.”

This little horn represents a powerful religious system that would align with the last seven of the 10 political horns that were to arise after the fall of Rome. This coordination between church and state produced what ultimately became known as the Holy Roman Empire.

In verses 21-22 and 25, this little horn makes war against the saints, speaks pompous words against God, intends to change times and law, and persecutes the saints for a “time and times and half a time” (literally three and a half years, but using the day-for-a-year principle of Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6, 1,260 years).

Evidence of this persecution can be seen through the centuries, as hundreds and thousands of people in Europe lost their lives...'

And many others although some try to place Antiochus Epiphanes as the 'little horn power', and this cant be as he doesnt fit at the time given. We can go over that more closely if need be...

 

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Rev 12:3 the other sign John saw was a great red dragon meaning Satan. Remember, this is a vision and a sign as Satan has not yet been cast out of heaven until the beginning of the 3 1/2 year tribulation. The description of the dragon being great and red depicts its nature and character as being fierce and murderous, John 8:44. This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. This is also confirmed in Rev 17 as mystery Babylon is described. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8. The last kingdom which stands greater than all the others is that of a revived Roman Empire that takes control over all the ten nations who then implements a deceiving peace treaty with the Muslims in which the Dome of the Rock will be given over to the son of perdition as he reigns from the very Temple mount of God. This is the abomination Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15, 16 that we are to flee from when we see the son of perdition take his seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years.

Rev 13 the beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system comprised of economic, political, militant, environmental and a false religious system. This beast system that Satan works through gives its power to the beast out of the earth as the beast out of the earth appears as the Lamb of God, but is a false Christ being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire that received its deadly wound back in 1798 by General Berthier who made his entrance into Rome and abolished the Roman government and established a secular one. That caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (ten horns). The wound was healed in 1929 by Mussolini.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation during the time of the seventh trumpet, not a seven year tribulation, as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 1/2 years or 3 Times as the Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 1/2 years.
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Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

No where in scripture does it mention a seven year tribulation, but only seven trumpets of God's fierce wrath as scripture says we will always have tribulations as the last time will be such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be, Matthew 24:21; Deut 4:30-31; 7:19; 29:1-6; 1 Samuel 26:24; Matthew; John 16:33; Romans 12:12; 24:21; James 1:2; 1 Peter 1:6.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13:3. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France, who made his entrance into Rome, abolished the Roman government and established a secular one and captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. In 1801 Napoleon made an agreement with Pope Pius II establishing Napoleon s Organic Articles of granting the Tribunal and the Corps legislative partial control of the concordat in order to help the state monitor any politically harmful Catholic or Protestant movements or activities. The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to Pope Pius XI and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty.

The Roman Empire began in 753BC by Romulus who founded Rome in 27BC with Augustus Caesar becoming the first emperor of Rome in 27 BC and died in 14AD. Rome controlled over two million square miles stretching from the Rhine River to Egypt and from Britain (England) to Asia Minor which made up the Grecian Empire of Greece, Turkey, Syria and Egypt. In 146BC the Romans destroyed Corinth during the Battle of Corinth and made the Greece Empire into a province of the Roman Empire. This timeline goes from 753BC to 27BC. Nero burned Rome in 64AD and blamed the Christian community in the city causing the Roman Empires first persecution of Christians. In 1453 was the rise of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Constantinople destroying the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) that reigned from 330AD to 1453AD. The Roman Empire was then called the Holy Roman Empire that was a political entity beginning in 800AD - 1806AD from the time of Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor) who protected Pope Leo III from Adrian's supporters in Rome to Francis II, King of France. Pope Pius VII was the Pope from 1800-1823. The Roman Empire is known today as Vatican City, a city-state surrounded by Rome and Italy who has diplomatic relations with every nation around the world.

The crowns on its heads show that this dragon claims royal authority against the true King who is God of all creation as he prepares to take his seat above all that which is Gods Kingdom claiming he is God as he prepares to deceive the world through that of an existing Roman Empire, Daniel 8:9-12; Isaiah 14:12-15.

The beast rises up out of the sea, Rev 13, as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:15-28.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (Germans in Great Britain), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

The beast out of the earth, Rev 13:11-18, is the revived Roman Empire (mystery Babylon) which causes man to take its mark. Daniel 7:25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time, 2 Thessalonians 2:13-12.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Rev 12:3 the other sign John saw was a great red dragon meaning Satan. Remember, this is a vision and a sign as Satan has not yet been cast out of heaven until the beginning of the 3 1/2 year tribulation. The description of the dragon being great and red depicts its nature and character as being fierce and murderous, John 8:44. This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. This is also confirmed in Rev 17 as mystery Babylon is described. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8. The last kingdom which stands greater than all the others is that of a revived Roman Empire that takes control over all the ten nations who then implements a deceiving peace treaty with the Muslims in which the Dome of the Rock will be given over to the son of perdition as he reigns from the very Temple mount of God. This is the abomination Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15, 16 that we are to flee from when we see the son of perdition take his seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years.

Rev 13 the beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system comprised of economic, political, militant, environmental and a false religious system. This beast system that Satan works through gives its power to the beast out of the earth as the beast out of the earth appears as the Lamb of God, but is a false Christ being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire that received its deadly wound back in 1798 by General Berthier who made his entrance into Rome and abolished the Roman government and established a secular one. That caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (ten horns). The wound was healed in 1929 by Mussolini.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation during the time of the seventh trumpet, not a seven year tribulation, as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 1/2 years or 3 Times as the Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 1/2 years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

No where in scripture does it mention a seven year tribulation, but only seven trumpets of God's fierce wrath as scripture says we will always have tribulations as the last time will be such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be, Matthew 24:21; Deut 4:30-31; 7:19; 29:1-6; 1 Samuel 26:24; Matthew; John 16:33; Romans 12:12; 24:21; James 1:2; 1 Peter 1:6.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13:3. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France, who made his entrance into Rome, abolished the Roman government and established a secular one and captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. In 1801 Napoleon made an agreement with Pope Pius II establishing Napoleon s Organic Articles of granting the Tribunal and the Corps legislative partial control of the concordat in order to help the state monitor any politically harmful Catholic or Protestant movements or activities. The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to Pope Pius XI and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty.

The Roman Empire began in 753BC by Romulus who founded Rome in 27BC with Augustus Caesar becoming the first emperor of Rome in 27 BC and died in 14AD. Rome controlled over two million square miles stretching from the Rhine River to Egypt and from Britain (England) to Asia Minor which made up the Grecian Empire of Greece, Turkey, Syria and Egypt. In 146BC the Romans destroyed Corinth during the Battle of Corinth and made the Greece Empire into a province of the Roman Empire. This timeline goes from 753BC to 27BC. Nero burned Rome in 64AD and blamed the Christian community in the city causing the Roman Empires first persecution of Christians. In 1453 was the rise of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Constantinople destroying the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) that reigned from 330AD to 1453AD. The Roman Empire was then called the Holy Roman Empire that was a political entity beginning in 800AD - 1806AD from the time of Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor) who protected Pope Leo III from Adrian's supporters in Rome to Francis II, King of France. Pope Pius VII was the Pope from 1800-1823. The Roman Empire is known today as Vatican City, a city-state surrounded by Rome and Italy who has diplomatic relations with every nation around the world.

The crowns on its heads show that this dragon claims royal authority against the true King who is God of all creation as he prepares to take his seat above all that which is Gods Kingdom claiming he is God as he prepares to deceive the world through that of an existing Roman Empire, Daniel 8:9-12; Isaiah 14:12-15.

The beast rises up out of the sea, Rev 13, as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:15-28.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (Germans in Great Britain), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

The beast out of the earth, Rev 13:11-18, is the revived Roman Empire (mystery Babylon) which causes man to take its mark. Daniel 7:25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time, 2 Thessalonians 2:13-12.

You veil Revelation with a theory no one believed until the 1800s. As the video says, the math is elementary. Moses and Elijah preach 3.5 years and then are killed by the Beast. He isn't the beast the first 3.5. When he becomes the Beast, he kills Moses and Elijah, then rules as the Beast 3.5 years = 7 years.

 

[for_his_glory]

You veil Revelation with a theory no one believed until the 1800s. As the video says, the math is elementary. Moses and Elijah preach 3.5 years and then are killed by the Beast. He isn't the beast the first 3.5. When he becomes the Beast, he kills Moses and Elijah, then rules as the Beast 3.5 years = 7 years.

I'm going to need your source and scripture for this please. BTW I do not deal with theories, but only what is written in scripture.

 

[Alfred Persson]

I'm going to need your source and scripture for this please. BTW I do not deal with theories, but only what is written in scripture.

Find the gap theory in anything earlier than 1800's. It was invented and later popularized by the Schofield Bible. All sorts of cults and odd ideas were born in the 19th century, the gap theory one of them.

You cannot find Bible believers professing such nonsense prior to the 1800s.

Only those who veil the book of revelation with pre-trib nonsense can't see this is the rapture:

14 Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle.
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, "Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe."
16 So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.
(Rev. 14:14-16 NKJ)

Like Paul says, the falling away and Man of sin appear first, before the Day of Christ gathering (2 Thess. 2:1-4). Changing the wording to "Day of the LORD" and then inventing a distinction between that and the "Day of Christ" is "inelegant", violates parsimony.

 

[for_his_glory]

Find the gap theory in anything earlier than 1800's. It was invented and later popularized by the Schofield Bible. All sorts of cults and odd ideas were born in the 19th century, the gap theory one of them.

Where did I leave a door opened for the gap theory or any discussion of this. If you do not want to give me what you use for your sources or scripture then I guess we are done here.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Where did I leave a door opened for the gap theory or any discussion of this. If you do not want to give me what you use for your sources or scripture then I guess we are done here.

So you accept the book of Revelation covers seven years?

You claim to believe scripture, but you ignored the math. Moses and Elijah preach for 3.5 years and then are killed by the Beast. The beast doesn't "ascend out of the abyss" until he claims to be the seed of satan, at mid-week. Then he ends all worship not directed to him (Dan. 9:27), and kills God's two witnesses. Then he rules another 3.5 years, 42 months.

3 "And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."
...
7 When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them. (Rev. 11:3-7 NKJ)

5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. (Rev. 13:5 NKJ)



How long the tribulation is, isn't defined. There is tribulation, and what is called the great tribulation. The Great tribulation is less than seven years, it begins when the Beast demands everyone take the mark, and true believers die as martyrs for Jesus refusing the mark.

11 "And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
13 Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, "Write:`Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.'" "Yes," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them." (Rev. 14:11-13 NKJ)

9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"
11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.
(Rev. 6:9-11 NKJ)

13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?"
14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know." So he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Rev. 7:13-14 NKJ)

 

[for_his_glory]

So you accept the book of Revelation covers seven years?

You claim to believe scripture, but you ignored the math. Moses and Elijah preach for 3.5 years and then are killed by the Beast. The beast doesn't "ascend out of the abyss" until he claims to be the seed of satan, at mid-week. Then he ends all worship not directed to him (Dan. 9:27), and kills God's two witnesses. Then he rules another 3.5 years, 42 months.

3 "And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."
...
7 When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them. (Rev. 11:3-7 NKJ)

5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. (Rev. 13:5 NKJ)



How long the tribulation is, isn't defined. There is tribulation, and what is called the great tribulation. The Great tribulation is less than seven years, it begins when the Beast demands everyone take the mark, and true believers die as martyrs for Jesus refusing the mark.

11 "And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
13 Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, "Write:`Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.'" "Yes," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them." (Rev. 14:11-13 NKJ)

9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"
11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.
(Rev. 6:9-11 NKJ)

13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?"
14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know." So he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Rev. 7:13-14 NKJ)

What seven years?

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation during the time of the seventh trumpet, not a seven year tribulation, as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 1/2 years or 3 Times as the Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 1/2 years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

No where in scripture does it mention a seven year tribulation, but only seven trumpets of God's fierce wrath as scripture says we will always have tribulations as the last time will be such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be, Matthew 24:21; Deut 4:30-31; 7:19; 29:1-6; 1 Samuel 26:24; Matthew; John 16:33; Romans 12:12; 24:21; James 1:2; 1 Peter 1:6.

 

[for_his_glory]

Enoch, Moses, Abraham and Elijah were not taken up to the third Heaven as some teach as when they were seen (not Enoch or Abraham) of Peter, James and John in Matthew 17:1-9 it was only a transfiguration like a vision that they saw Jesus transfigured as was Moses and Elijah. There is no one in the third heaven except God, Jesus and the angels, John 3:13. Everyone that has ever died is asleep in their grave and when Christ returns they will hear His voice as He calls all of them to come forth, they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation, John 5:28, 29. It is only our spirit/breath/soul that goes back to God who gave it, Genesis 2:7; Ecc 12:7.

Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Does not say Enoch was taken up to heaven, but that he was only translated that he should not see death at that particular time being he was 365 years old. Should not see death means since Enoch walked with God he would not see the second death, Rev 20:6, but only that of the first death, Hebrews 9:27, as all his days were three hundred and sixty as he died, but no one knows where.

Genesis 49: 30 In the cave that is in the field of Machpelah, which is before Mamre, in the land of Canaan, which Abraham bought with the field of Ephron the Hittite for a possession of a burying place. 31There they buried Abraham and Sarah his wife; there they buried Isaac and Rebekah his wife; and there I buried Leah.

Deuteronomy 34:5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. 6 and he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Beth-peor: but no man knoweth of his sepulcher unto this day.

2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. (Heaven here means atmosphere, first heaven)

Elijah, having ascended into the air by a whirlwind was carried away out of sight beyond the horizon. Several years after he was taken away King Jehoram received a letter from him. How long after? There are some difficulties in figuring the exact chronology as it varies from 2 to 10 years or more. A note in Josephus (a Jewish historian of the first century A.D.) says 4 years, while the JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA figures it at 7 years.

Regardless of the exact number of years there came writing to Jehoram from Elijah the prophet, saying..." (2Chron 21:12). Now the wickedness of Jehoram, for which he was being rebuked in the letter, took place after Elijah was taken away, yet the letter speaks of these things as past events, and the punishment to come upon him as yet future. So the idea of some, that Elijah wrote the letter before he was removed by the whirlwind, is proved wrong.

Elijah was taken up by the whirlwind into the first heaven and transported to another location on Earth. God did not see fit in His purpose to reveal his whereabouts. Chariot of fire is used at times figuratively for host (angels) like in 2 Kings 2:11, 12: 6:17; Psalms 68:17; 104:1-4. Elijah, by his prayers and his counsel was the "chariot of Israel and the horseman thereof", meaning Elijah was the stronghold of Israel, the driving force of God. The Israelites never used chariots till the time of David.

When you compare 2 Kings 2:11-15 with 2 Kings 6:17 you see that God sent the host/angels down to Elijah who caught him up in a whirlwind and translated him to parts unknown. Several years after he was taken away King Jehoram received a letter from him.

Enoch died as per what Paul said In Hebrews 11:13 after speaking about all these men of faith that they all died in faith and never received the promise of heaven as one of the promises was a heavenly country, vs. 16. In Genesis 5:21-24 Enoch lived to be 365 years old and God took him. This is the same phrase in Psalms 37:36; 39:13; Matthew 2:18 to name a few that means they have passed away or would eventually die.

Psalms 89:48 David asked a question as he knew Enoch was dead in his grave. The words should not see death means that of the second death, John 8:51; 11:26; Rev 20:14, 15.

Based on Hebrews 9:27; 11:13; Romans 5:12-14 and all the scriptures I have given, especially John 3:13, no one has ever gone up to the third heaven, but only Christ. It's only man assuming without proof that say Elijah and Enoch were taken up to the third heaven where God sits on His throne. Scripture only says "they were not found".

 

[Alfred Persson]

What seven years?

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation during the time of the seventh trumpet, not a seven year tribulation, as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 1/2 years or 3 Times as the Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 1/2 years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

No where in scripture does it mention a seven year tribulation, but only seven trumpets of God's fierce wrath as scripture says we will always have tribulations as the last time will be such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be, Matthew 24:21; Deut 4:30-31; 7:19; 29:1-6; 1 Samuel 26:24; Matthew; John 16:33; Romans 12:12; 24:21; James 1:2; 1 Peter 1:6.

I don't believe the Tribulation is seven years. I said the book of Revelation covers 7 years. Daniel 9:27 is that week covered by the seals, trumpets and bowls. I gave you the scriptures proving it. God's two witnesses preach for 3.5 years until Antichrist kills them, and they rise from the dead into heaven. He killed them when he ascended from the abyss, and then with his blasphemous mouth he ruled another 3.5 years:

3 "And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."
...
7 When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them. (Rev. 11:3-7 NKJ)

5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. (Rev. 13:5 NKJ)

I confess I don't read your long posts, my eyes glaze over and I don't have time anyway. But neither do you read mine. This isn't the first time I gave you the math, the scriptures proving the book of Revelation, the seals trumpets and bowls cover 7 years.

Perhaps if you did as I have asked before, focus on one point...we might actually read what the other person says.

 

[for_his_glory]

You are wrong as I do read everything that you post and what I respond to, but usually do not always agree with your logical interpretations of hand me down theology that becomes a twisted word of God.

 

[Alfred Persson]

You are wrong as I do read everything that you post and what I respond to, but usually do not always agree with your logical interpretations of hand me down theology that becomes a twisted word of God.

Then doing as I ask should be your strategy. Focus on one point and prove it wrong or right. Then I'll respond. I don't have the time or inclination to read long posts rehashing what someone believes.

I'm just as guilty writing long posts no one reads. But if you want to engage me in a discussion, limit the point to a couple of sentences and cite the scripture support you appeal to. That I can respond to.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

One thing to be noted is that any depiction of the Beast with a cluster of seven heads is misleading. It is revealed to John that the seven heads of the Beast are seven kings, the ten horns are ten kings - ALSO kings. So what's the difference? The seven kings come and go in sequence, they do NOT exist simultaneously, there's only one head at a time; one head falls and the next succeeds it, till the seventh. At John's time, the sixth was in power, the seventh was the Antichrist empire which was yet to come. When it comes, it will receive a mortal wound, then miraculously heals, and the whole world will worship it, as though it were risen from the dead like Christ. It appears to be the eighth, but it's the revived seventh head. So if there're two phases, then they will be the seventh head phase before the head bash and the eighth head phase after that.

The ten horns, on the other hand, are ten kings that exist simultaneously, they are all on the same reigning head of the Beast. In the biblical narrative, a beast or an animal symbolizes a gentile nation, a horn usually is a civil power. This dragon beast is a hodgepodge of the mightest animals on earth, the ten horns are the coalition of all the earthly kingdoms united together against God, which is prophecied in Ps. 2.

Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?
The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the Lord and against His Anointed saying,
“Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us.”
He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.
Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:
“Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion.” (Ps. 2:1-6)

Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition. The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.” (Rev. 17:9-14)

 

[Alfred Persson]

One thing to be noted is that any depiction of the Beast with a cluster of seven heads is misleading. It is revealed to John that the seven heads of the Beast are seven kings, the ten horns are ten kings - ALSO kings. So what's the difference? The seven kings come and go in sequence, they do NOT exist simultaneously, there's only one head at a time; one head falls and the next succeeds it, till the seventh. At John's time, the sixth was in power, the seventh was the Antichrist empire which was yet to come. When it comes, it will receive a mortal wound, then miraculously heals, and the whole world will worship it, as though it were risen from the dead like Christ. It appears to be the eighth, but it's the revived seventh head. So if there're two phases, then they will be the seventh head phase before the head bash and the eighth head phase after that.

The ten horns, on the other hand, are ten kings that exist simultaneously, they are all on the same reigning head of the Beast. In the biblical narrative, a beast or an animal symbolizes a gentile nation, a horn usually is a civil power. This dragon beast is a hodgepodge of the mightest animals on earth, the ten horns are the coalition of all the earthly kingdoms united together against God, which is prophecied in Ps. 2.

Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?
The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the Lord and against His Anointed saying,
“Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us.”
He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.
Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:
“Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion.” (Ps. 2:1-6)

Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition. The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.” (Rev. 17:9-14)

The eighth is called the beast and its of the seven and it goes off into destruction, while the seventh continues only a short while.

How is the seventh the beast?

10 "There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time.
11 "And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.
(Rev. 17:10-11 NKJ)

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

The eighth is called the beast and its of the seven and it goes off into destruction, while the seventh continues only a short while.

How is the seventh the beast?

The beast only has seven heads in total, not eight; the seventh is the one that receives a mortal wound then heals, also, it's the seventh that only lasts a short while.

 

[Alfred Persson]

The beast only has seven heads in total, not eight; the seventh is the one that receives a mortal wound then heals, also, it's the seventh that only lasts a short while.

My Bible reads different:

11 "And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition. (Rev. 17:11 NKJ)

I only interpret scripture.

The 7 heads +1 (the entire beast Rev. 13:1ff) = "eight"