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I do not pray using Allah because I am not Arabic and do not pray to the God of Islam. I use the English 'God' because English is my first language and 'Allah' carries a different connotation. If, however, an Arab Christian uses Allah in their prayers in reference to the Christian God, I don't have a problem.TheStudent said:"the Bible teaches that Allah, as Islam reveals him, is also the God of Jews and Christians."
so you personally do not have a problem with using 'Allah' in your prayers?
not really, the bible isnt written chronologically at all.The Quran is different from the bible. it is not written as a story. When searching for answers you must piece together all of the verses which deal with a specific subject to get the full picture.
The Qur'anic Revelation appeared six centuries after Jesus. It resumes numerous data found in the Hebraic Bible and the Gospels since it quotes very frequently from the 'Torah' [ What is meant by Torah are the first five books of the Bible, in other words the Pentateuch of Moses (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy).] and the 'Gospels.' The Qur'an directs all Muslims to believe in the Scriptures that precede it (sura 4, verse 136). It stresses the important position occupied in the Revelation by God's emissaries, such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, the Prophets and Jesus, to whom they allocate a special position. His birth is described in the Qur'an, and likewise in the Gospels, as a supernatural event. Mary is also given a special place, as indicated by the fact that sura 19 bears her name.
Many Muslims make this claim but none has ever provided proof to back it up. Please, enlighten us and tell us what texts Muhammad copied of off to get the bits of truth that he does about Jesus. Or, if you want to claim that it was all revealed to him by Allah, which you will, then you need to provide proof from the texts in the original languages.TheStudent said:it means the ORIGINAL scripture, not the distorted ones in use today. so yes i believe that a gospel was revealed to jesus. but where today can you see a gospel of jesus?
if this original scriptures existed today then we wouldnt be having this conversation!
you wouldnt be a christian but a muslim.
so here we have multiple authors, none of them jesus. christians getting burned and killed by other christians!! thats one heck of a holy spirit you got there...
But yet you said:TheStudent said:dont you see??
if this original scriptures existed today then we wouldnt be having this conversation!
you wouldnt be a christian but a muslim.
If we don't have the original Scriptures of the Bible, then how do you know that the ones today are distorted? How do you know that the Bible has been changed from the originals?it means the ORIGINAL scripture, not the distorted ones in use today. so yes i believe that a gospel was revealed to jesus.
The keyword there is "eyewitnesses," of which Muhammad has none.TheStudent said:now we have the Bible. itself not the word of Jesus but was, as chrisitians admit, transmitted from person to person, the same as the collection of Hadith. itslef relied on eye witnesses and their truthfullness.
You need to clarify what mean by the "Bible." You seem to think that the Bible only consists of the 4 gospels which are only 4 of 66 books in the Bible. There are numerous writers.TheStudent said:does it just rely on the claims of 4 main writers?
Whether or not they were prophets is irrelevant. The question is did God speak to them; were their words inspired and given by God? Yes, they were.TheStudent said:but the main question to ask is 'where they prophets?' did they speak DIRECT with God? No.
And of course that has never happened in Islam. :roll: [/sarcasm]TheStudent said:not forgetting the fact that early christians were killed as heretics and had their copies of scripture burned if it didnt agree with Pauls teachings.