[_ Old Earth _] The Flood & Dinosaurs

[Barbarian]

Here you have confused deism with science (or possibly with Christianity; it's hard to say)

 

[Barbarian]

Items are being found on dinosaurs that could never has lasted millions of years. Recently they have found T-rex tissue.

Not tissue; some biological molecules. Heme in the earliest case. And recently a bit of collagen.

Both times, investigation of the molecules confirmed the evolutionist prediction that birds are the closest relatives of dinosaurs.

 

[LittleNipper]

Items are being found on dinosaurs that could never has lasted millions of years. Recently they have found T-rex tissue.

Not tissue; some biological molecules. Heme in the earliest case. And recently a bit of collagen.

Both times, investigation of the molecules confirmed the evolutionist prediction that birds are the closest relatives of dinosaurs.

col·la·gen (kl-jn)
n.
The fibrous protein constituent of bone, cartilage, tendon, and other connective tissue that converts into gelatin by boiling.

And you can imagine this lasting for hundreds of thousands of years? Seems totally unreasonable to me-----and I'm not as brillant as you....

 

[Barbarian]

col·la·gen (kl-jn)
n.
The fibrous protein constituent of bone, cartilage, tendon, and other connective tissue that converts into gelatin by boiling.

And you can imagine this lasting for hundreds of thousands of years?

Yep. Dried collagen would be essentially inert in an anoxic environment.

Seems totally unreasonable to me-----

In the absence of enzymes or lots of heat, many organic processes have reaction rates in the millions of years. This is why you have enzymes; many of the reactions your body uses would take many, many millenia to happen if not catalyzed by enzymes.

But I'd be open to your evidence for faster rates under such conditions. It would be pretty weird, but I'm not rejecting it out of hand.

 

[LittleNipper]

In the absence of enzymes or lots of heat, many organic processes have reaction rates in the millions of years. This is why you have enzymes; many of the reactions your body uses would take many, many millenia to happen if not catalyzed by enzymes.

But I'd be open to your evidence for faster rates under such conditions. It would be pretty weird, but I'm not rejecting it out of hand.

How many environments can/would stay anoxic and inert for hundreds of millions of years? Also, such environments when they do become hospitable tend to be hypersensitive and encourage hyperactivity in the area of decay.

 

[Barbarian]

How many environments can/would stay anoxic and inert for hundreds of millions of years?

Any that are buried in stone, as these were.

Also, such environments when they do become hospitable tend to be hypersensitive and encourage hyperactivity in the area of decay.

Nope. If it dried out, collagen would not decay at all. It's quite resistant to decay if not wet. Think about how rapidly hair decays in damp compost piles, and yet is unchanged from the tombs of ancient Peruvians in very dry environments.