The Genealogy of the Antichrist

[teleoisis]

No that's the verse.

The "ruler who will come" comes from "the people... (who) ...destroy the city and the sanctuary.

The Romans did that in the first Jewish revolt. The Romans employed Europeans of various nationalities in their armies. Holding Israel was a minor feat. Both Jewish revolts aren't even counted in Roman history as wars; they happened during the Pax Romana.

The Arabs didn't destroy the city and the sanctuary. There won't even be any Muslims for another 500 plus years. They do occupy Jerusalem for much of its history since then, but by the time they do, the sanctuary has long been destroyed. So to conclude Daniel 9:26, a Muslim anti-Christ is eliminated from consideration.

This aspect of prophecy does not invalidate their own "messianic" King they're looking for, nor does it invalidate that a Muslim might yet arise to lead them all against the North. It is just that the Bible is silent as to the internal workings of the Southern Empire which I think Islam is capable of being.

Mark T.

 

[Vic C.]

The Romans did that in the first Jewish revolt.

Actually, Antiochus fulfilled this way before the Romans did.

It is an exciting time for Judah when the heroes of the revolt were kindled. In 168 BC Antiochus Epiphanes dared to occupy Jerusalem, enter the Holy of Holies, desecrate the sanctuary by offering unclean animals upon the alter of burnt-offerings, pollute the whole building by sprinkling it with water in which flesh had been boiled, dedicated the Temple itself to Jupiter Olympius, and erected the statue of that deity and plundered the temple treasures.

Antiochus Epiphanes represents the type of 'the abomination of desolation' foretold by the prophet Daniel, on the altar of the Lord in the inner court of the Temple. Antiochus Epiphanes serves as a foreshadowing of the Anti-christ to come in the days ahead. Many Old Testament types pointing to end time fulfillments are first in the natural and second in the spiritual, so we may see the spiritual temple defiled in these days. Prophecies concerning Antichrist would be 8th chapter of Daniel: first Greece and Alexander, then four notables. Daniel "And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences shall stand up. etc.." May also be prefigured in Dan 11.6 as the king of the north.
[08, 23, 319, 304, Daniel, 392]

http://latter-rain.com/Israel/antep.htm

Also, see this http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view. ... 9&letter=A and read I and II Maccabees.

 

[tim-from-pa]

I love genealogies, but I never thought to do this one. :-D

IMO, based on the book of Daniel, the antichrist will be Assyrian--- so that would be the lineage to trace back.

The book of Daniel keeps focusing in more and more in chapters 2, 7, 8, 9 and 11 as to who Antichrist is. To make a long story short, Daniel 8 speaks of the ram/goat vision, from which springs up this "little horn" (both historical character and prototype of future anitchrist):

And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

We know that was the Grecian Empire, but at this point we know not which part until chapter 11 where after Alaxander the Great died, it was divided into 4 parts: the two most noteworthy ones was the Ptolemaic and Seleucid portions. In the end there is this fight between the King of the North (Seleucid Empire) and the King of the South (the Ptoloemaic). This little horn guy is associated with the Seleucid Empire and at the very end of the chapter (v21 and v36 onward for sure) there are events described that never happened, and they are clearly (as many theologians will agree) that this is reference to Antichrist connected to the King of the North. The Seleucid Empire was where modern day Iraq, Iran maybe Syria are located.

 

[Vic C.]

I love genealogies, but I never thought to do this one.

Yes, I am one of the ones here that favors lineage as a determining factor. Not all agree and that's fine. There are SO many ways to interpret all of this. It also depends on your "angle"; whether your are pre, post or amillennial, or a futurist, historicist, preterist, etc.

It IS interesting though.

IMO, based on the book of Daniel, the antichrist will be Assyrian--- so that would be the lineage to trace back.

Could be, but keep in mind, the region you described above is due-east of Jerusalem, not quite north. IMO, one needs to go back to Ezekiel 38 and trace back to the region the nomadic descendants of Japheth settled.

Anything is possible though... after all, it is eschatological prophecies we are dealing with here. 8-)

 

[teleoisis]

The Romans did that in the first Jewish revolt.

Actually, Antiochus fulfilled this way before the Romans did.

Yes, and the Babylonians before him, however, there is one ingredient you have forgotten which specifies it was the Romans who are the people of the ruler who will come and not the Greeks: This happens after the sixty-two 'sevens' end with the coming of the Messiah.

Now the book of Daniel includes some very specific descriptions of the generational war between the Seleucids and Ptolemies in Dan 11:5-30, so much so that the critics think it was written as a history and this time is important because Antiochus IV Epiphanes serves as a prototype to the final ruler who will come.

Dan 9:26 describes three things that happen after the Messiah comes: He is cut off, the city and the sanctuary are destroyed, and wars continue until the end. Thus Dan 9:26's description of the people of the ruler who will come cannot refer to Antiochus, because that happens previously during the sixty-two 'sevens'.

Mark T.