The Gentiles coming occupation of Jerusalem

[for_his_glory]

The abomination which causes desolation is not a man sitting in a seat. No man has ever caused desolation by sitting down.

Also, Daniel made it very clear that it is not a man that places the abominstion that causes desolation in Jerusalem. It is placed there by the norths armed forces.When studying scripture, I'd advise you to pay attention to what the prophet says and less to people's interpretations of what the prophet has said.

Daniel 11:31 NIV: "His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.

Having relatives presently serving in the norths armed forces, I can assure you the armed forces will not place a man sitting in a seat in Jerusalem to destroy those nations who attack and kill our friend and ally Israel. Our armed forces will in fact carry out Israel's last option.
(The Samson option).

Daniel 7 explains the four Empires, Daniel 9: 24-27 explains the seventy weeks. In vs. 27 begins the 70th seven that began with Christ baptism in AD 29 and three years later at the end of the first half of the 70th seven sacrifices and offering ceased because Christ hung on the cross. From the giving of the law in 458BC when Ezra went to establish the law, or to rebuild the spiritual city right to the cross where the first 69 weeks. The 70th seven is from the time of the cross until Jesus comes back in the air to call his Bride home and for the overspreading of abominations he will make desolate bringing all transgressions against God to an end.

During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times by four Empires, the Babylonian Empire, Medo-Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and the Roman Empire in which received a deadly wound, but that wound was healed in 1929. The last abomination comes from a revived Roman Empire that will reign for 3 1/2 years with its own Luciferian military power. It's this revived
Roman Empire that will cause the last of many abominations before this one that will cause once again the destruction of Jerusalem.

The last battle after the beast and its false prophet are cast alive into the lake of fire, Rev 19:11-21, is that of the battle of Armageddon as Satan, who is released from his prison, goes out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, (Gog and Magog means lands) to gather them together to battle (those who are the enemies of God) the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them, Rev 20:7-10.



Daniel 11:2-35

Chapter 11 is largely taken up with detailed prophecies concerning the final kings of the Persian Empire, especially Alexander the Great and the Greek Empires of his successors, the Seleucid kings and the Ptolemaic kings that made up the Medo-Persian Empire. Daniel's prophecies given in 536 BC accurately predict the reign of kings hundreds of years after Daniel's time. These kings are important to God's people living in Judea/Jerusalem in those centuries since many of the battles take place in Palestine, located right between the rival kings of Egypt and Syria.

Below is that of the seven remaining nations described as four beasts in Daniel 7:1-8 and the three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn, which is the Roman Empire.

The three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:24 are the Heruli, Vandals, and Ostrogoths who were eliminated by the year 538 AD under the leadership of the Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian whose deadly wound came in 1798.

Seven remaining nations that still exist today:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire. This Empire ran approximately from 536BC - 330BC

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

 

[for_his_glory]

I have not refuted anything Christ has said.
I have refuted what you said.

You claim the son of perdition will reign in Jerusalem after the abomination of desolation is placed.
The armed forces of the north does not place the abomination of desolation in Jerusalem till after the king of the south(the beast) has attacked his armed forces in Jerusalem and has taken control of Jerusalem.

We will not tolerate those Muslim ragheads killing our friends and allies. When they attack Israel and our armed forces stationed in Jerusalem we will destroy all thier countries. We will destroy all thier cities. Our missiles will fall from heaven unto the earth so that they appear as falling stars. Our armed forces will destroy as far south as Egypt and no one will be able to set foot in Egypt for 40 years.

I never said the son of perdition will reign in Jerusalem after the abomination is placed. The son of perdition will cause this last abomination as he forces all to take it's mark or be persecuted making many martyr's of God's people.

I know you use Daniel 11:31 for your theory about some armed forces of the north, but you need to read the full context of chapter 11 along with the history of the Medo-Persian Empire.

Sorry, but it has nothing to do with the Muslims making war in Israel and conquering the promised land of God, but they do have something to do with the Dome of the Rock and who they are refurbishing it for.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Daniel 7 explains the four Empires, Daniel 9: 24-27 explains the seventy weeks. In vs. 27 begins the 70th seven that began with Christ baptism in AD 29 and three years later at the end of the first half of the 70th seven sacrifices and offering ceased because Christ hung on the cross. From the giving of the law in 458BC when Ezra went to establish the law, or to rebuild the spiritual city right to the cross where the first 69 weeks. The 70th seven is from the time of the cross until Jesus comes back in the air to call his Bride home and for the overspreading of abominations he will make desolate bringing all transgressions against God to an end.

During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times by four Empires, the Babylonian Empire, Medo-Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and the Roman Empire in which received a deadly wound, but that wound was healed in 1929. The last abomination comes from a revived Roman Empire that will reign for 3 1/2 years with its own Luciferian military power. It's this revived
Roman Empire that will cause the last of many abominations before this one that will cause once again the destruction of Jerusalem.

The last battle after the beast and its false prophet are cast alive into the lake of fire, Rev 19:11-21, is that of the battle of Armageddon as Satan, who is released from his prison, goes out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, (Gog and Magog means lands) to gather them together to battle (those who are the enemies of God) the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them, Rev 20:7-10.



Daniel 11:2-35

Chapter 11 is largely taken up with detailed prophecies concerning the final kings of the Persian Empire, especially Alexander the Great and the Greek Empires of his successors, the Seleucid kings and the Ptolemaic kings that made up the Medo-Persian Empire. Daniel's prophecies given in 536 BC accurately predict the reign of kings hundreds of years after Daniel's time. These kings are important to God's people living in Judea/Jerusalem in those centuries since many of the battles take place in Palestine, located right between the rival kings of Egypt and Syria.

Below is that of the seven remaining nations described as four beasts in Daniel 7:1-8 and the three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn, which is the Roman Empire.

The three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:24 are the Heruli, Vandals, and Ostrogoths who were eliminated by the year 538 AD under the leadership of the Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian whose deadly wound came in 1798.

Seven remaining nations that still exist today:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire. This Empire ran approximately from 536BC - 330BC

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

Gog does not Invade Israel until 1000 years after the war of Armegeddon when the beast is destroyed.
Have you ever read Revelation on th e subject?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I never said the son of perdition will reign in Jerusalem after the abomination is placed. The son of perdition will cause this last abomination as he forces all to take it's mark or be persecuted making many martyr's of God's people.

I know you use Daniel 11:31 for your theory about some armed forces of the north, but you need to read the full context of chapter 11 along with the history of the Medo-Persian Empire.

Sorry, but it has nothing to do with the Muslims making war in Israel and conquering the promised land of God, but they do have something to do with the Dome of the Rock and who they are refurbishing it for.

The abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem by our armed forces. We destroy almost all the middle east.
We will turn the sand to glass.

And yes, it is the Muslims who attack our armed forces stationed in Jerusalem.
The king of the south will come against us.

Daniel 11:40 - The King Who Exalts Himself

At the time of the end, the king of the South will engage him in battle, but the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots, horsemen, and many ships, invading many countries and sweeping through them like a flood.

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It shows you don't know who the king of the south is when you say the Muslims have nothing to do with it.

PS, those Muslims are not preparing anything for us. We don't even like muslims and in the end our armed forces will destroy many millions of Muslims.These are Muslims we wipe off the face of the earth.

Daniel 11:44 - The King Who Exalts Himself

But news from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will go out with great fury to destroy many and devote them to destruction.

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[for_his_glory]

Gog does not Invade Israel until 1000 years after the war of Armegeddon when the beast is destroyed.
Have you ever read Revelation on th e subject?

It takes more than just reading a few scriptures to understand the events that even now are unfolding and yet coming in the end of days and the order of these events. If you notice I give many scriptures from the OT and NT as it takes the full context from Genesis to Rev to understand what the Prophets have already written in the OT and what Jesus teaches us in the NT about end times events and these four Empires that have always persecuted God's people. It also takes praying and asking the Holy Spirit to teach us as we hear the voice of God and not the various end time commentaries of man that even they can not agree on with each other. It also takes studying the history of these four Empires in order to understand the revived fourth one whose deadly wound was healed in 1929 will once again rule over Jerusalem as its governing power and will once again, like in the past, persecute God's people, even to death for not bowing down to this beast out of the earth.

Preconceived ideologies that are nothing more than mans traditional hand me down theories that even they can not agree with, but have monetarily lined the pockets of all these jump on the bandwagon authors will always lead many astray from the truth that only God's Holy Spirit can give us if we hear His voice and are truly seeking truth. This is why I never use commentaries nor read their books as God gave us a text book we call the Holy Bible that He teaches us out of that book everything He wants us to learn. If one just sits and reads it like any other book they are not going to get the deeper Spiritual mysteries within it revealed to them.

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Other than Genesis 10:2 Magog being the son of Japheth and in 1 Chronicles 5:4 Gog being the son of Joel scripture and history is silent on these two men. There is much speculation on who or what they are as not even theologians who have searched for centuries have no clue, but in Rev 20:8 Gog and Magog are called nations from the four corners of the earth. Says nothing about any army from the North or even any Muslims as it is Satan that goes out to deceive the nations.

Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the ruling leaders from every nation that followed after the beast are destroyed by the coming of the Lord in the air, Rev 19:11-21, are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. They are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints during the battle of Armageddon that are camped upon the breadth of the earth after he is released for a season, Psalms 2:7-10; 110; Ezekiel 36; 37; Rev 20:7-9.

The saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Zechariah 14:1, 2; Luke 21:20; Rev 16:16 mentions the battle of Armageddon when Christ and His army of angels return as Christ plants His feet on the mount of Olives for the final battle as Gog and Magog found in Ezekiel Chapter 38 is the battle of Rev 20:7-9.


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[Shilohsfoal]

It takes more than just reading a few scriptures to understand the events that even now are unfolding and yet coming in the end of days and the order of these events. If you notice I give many scriptures from the OT and NT as it takes the full context from Genesis to Rev to understand what the Prophets have already written in the OT and what Jesus teaches us in the NT about end times events and these four Empires that have always persecuted God's people. It also takes praying and asking the Holy Spirit to teach us as we hear the voice of God and not the various end time commentaries of man that even they can not agree on with each other. It also takes studying the history of these four Empires in order to understand the revived fourth one whose deadly wound was healed in 1929 will once again rule over Jerusalem as its governing power and will once again, like in the past, persecute God's people, even to death for not bowing down to this beast out of the earth.

Preconceived ideologies that are nothing more than mans traditional hand me down theories that even they can not agree with, but have monetarily lined the pockets of all these jump on the bandwagon authors will always lead many astray from the truth that only God's Holy Spirit can give us if we hear His voice and are truly seeking truth. This is why I never use commentaries nor read their books as God gave us a text book we call the Holy Bible that He teaches us out of that book everything He wants us to learn. If one just sits and reads it like any other book they are not going to get the deeper Spiritual mysteries within it revealed to them.

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Other than Genesis 10:2 Magog being the son of Japheth and in 1 Chronicles 5:4 Gog being the son of Joel scripture and history is silent on these two men. There is much speculation on who or what they are as not even theologians who have searched for centuries have no clue, but in Rev 20:8 Gog and Magog are called nations from the four corners of the earth. Says nothing about any army from the North or even any Muslims as it is Satan that goes out to deceive the nations.

Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the ruling leaders from every nation that followed after the beast are destroyed by the coming of the Lord in the air, Rev 19:11-21, are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. They are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints during the battle of Armageddon that are camped upon the breadth of the earth after he is released for a season, Psalms 2:7-10; 110; Ezekiel 36; 37; Rev 20:7-9.

The saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Zechariah 14:1, 2; Luke 21:20; Rev 16:16 mentions the battle of Armageddon when Christ and His army of angels return as Christ plants His feet on the mount of Olives for the final battle as Gog and Magog found in Ezekiel Chapter 38 is the battle of Rev 20:7-9.


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Gog does not Invade Israel till 1000 years after the beast is destroyed at Armegeddon.

Yes zechariah talks about armeggrdon and how the nations which attack Jerusalem take control of it and rape the women of Jerusalem.
But that is not what happens 1000 years later while the saints live there. Gog does not take control of Jerusalem and Gog does not rape the women of Jerusalem.
Gog is soundly defeated by God before he even has the chance to enter Jerusalem where the saints reign with Christ.

At the time Gog invades Israel, it is Gog who encompasses the breadth of the earth. The saints are camped at Jerusalem.

Revelation 20:8 - Satan Cast into the Lake of Fire

and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to assemble them for battle. Their number is like the sand of the seashore.

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Revelation 20:9 - Satan Cast into the Lake of Fire

And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them.

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The saints don't March across of the breadth of the earth, Gog does. The saints who reign with Christ are at Jerusalem. That is where thier thrones are.
Keep in mind, Gog invades Israel 1000 years after the beast is destroyed. God mentions this time period no less than 6 times in 6 straight verses just to get his point across.

A thousand years
A thousand years
A thousand years
A thousand years
A thousand years
A thousand years

 

[for_his_glory]

In Rev 20:8 Gog and Magog are the prophesied invader of Israel as evil forces opposed to the people of God. Revelations is given to all nations and tongues that live throughout the whole world as in Jew and Gentile. Israel is mainly mentioned in the Bible as not all nations existed yet during the time of the prophets and Apostles writings. Those who are washed in the blood of the Lamb are joined as a branch with Israel as God is the root of that branch and those who are sealed by His Holy Spirit are His own who find favor in Him, Romans 11:11-31. Therefore, our attention needs to be on those things that are happening in Israel especially Jerusalem as being Gods Holy City where the son of perdition will be headquartered to rule his reign of terror over all nations.

When we read vs. 8 it is written that Satan, (not the son of perdition), at the end of the 1000 years that will be set free from his prison to go out and deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Gog and Magog are symbolic of those evil nations (people), the number of whom is as the sand of the sea as many nations (people) throughout the four corners of the earth are opposed to God's people that are still alive here on earth at that time.

Vs. 9, 10
And they (evil nations/people that Satan works through) went up on the breadth of the earth, (breadth means the full width of the earth) and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city (Saints are camped about every nation, plus Jerusalem) and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Notice it says in vs. 10 the beast and false prophet/son of perdition are already cast into the lake of fire before the 1000 years begin, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, Rev 13; 19:11-21.

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

In Rev 20:8 Gog and Magog are the prophesied invader of Israel as evil forces opposed to the people of God. Revelations is given to all nations and tongues that live throughout the whole world as in Jew and Gentile. Israel is mainly mentioned in the Bible as not all nations existed yet during the time of the prophets and Apostles writings. Those who are washed in the blood of the Lamb are joined as a branch with Israel as God is the root of that branch and those who are sealed by His Holy Spirit are His own who find favor in Him, Romans 11:11-31. Therefore, our attention needs to be on those things that are happening in Israel especially Jerusalem as being Gods Holy City where the son of perdition will be headquartered to rule his reign of terror over all nations.

When we read vs. 8 it is written that Satan, (not the son of perdition), at the end of the 1000 years that will be set free from his prison to go out and deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Gog and Magog are symbolic of those evil nations (people), the number of whom is as the sand of the sea as many nations (people) throughout the four corners of the earth are opposed to God's people that are still alive here on earth at that time.

Vs. 9, 10
And they (evil nations/people that Satan works through) went up on the breadth of the earth, (breadth means the full width of the earth) and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city (Saints are camped about every nation, plus Jerusalem) and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Notice it says in vs. 10 the beast and false prophet/son of perdition are already cast into the lake of fire before the 1000 years begin, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, Rev 13; 19:11-21.

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Revelation 20 is not about every Christian that ever lived.
It's only speaking of the saints who are resurrected in the first resurection who died for thier testimony of Christ and who has not worshiped the beast or recieved its mark.
They will live and reign with Christ.
THE REST OF THE DEAD LIVE NOT AGAIN TILL THE 1000 YEARS ARE COMPLETED.

As much as I hate to admit, I will not be resurrected in this first resurrection. I'm not one of those who are killed for my testimony of Christ and I will not be reigning with Christ during that 1000 years. I don't even live in the beast's kingdom. I live in one of the other beasts kingdoms that are not destroyed.

 

[Corn Pop]

Gentiles have occupied Jerusalem since around 70ad.

 

[Corn Pop]

The Gentiles coming occupation?.

The Gentiles have occupied Jerusalem since 70ad, Jerusalum was completly destroyed and burned with fire and the temple thrown to the ground.

Jonah went to Nineveh and told them to repent and without complaint Nineveh repented at Jonah, so after the 40 days nothing happened.

Jesus went to Jerusalem and said repent someone greater than Jonah is here, and Jerusalem did not repent. What happened exactly 40 days later. It was overthrown by the gentiles in 70ad.

Strike the Shephard and the sheep will be scattered to the nations.

God said he will revive after the second day as we come to the end of the second day our Jewish friends are heading back to Jerusalem. Exactly what God said.