D46 said:
Sola Scriptura was created in the 16th Century, you wanna deny that?
Sola Scriptura is not found in the bible, you wanna show me otherwise?
No to both questions. Neither are popes, nuns, cardinals, monks, magisterium, dogmas,
litergies, the mass, the
eurcharist, the host, the monstrance,
sacraments, indulgencies, rosary beads, brown scapula,
baptising babies, confessional, the vicar of Christ, and on and on. 'nuff said?
You are incorrect on the ones bolded- they have clear, literal specific reference in scripture.
Liturgy
Acts 13:2
Leitourgounton (liturgy/the work of the people) de auton to kurion kai nesteonton
As they ministered to the Lord and fasted
Eucharist
Matthew 26:27
Kai labon to poterionkai Eucharistas (Eucharist/thanksgiving)
And He took the Cup and gave thanks
Sacraments/ Mysteries
The Lord instituted Holy Matrimony in Genesis Chapter Two, instituted the Eucharist on the night of His betrayal, Paul and James speak very clearly regarding Holy Unction (laying on of oil), The Lord commanded baptism and Paul confirmed it as our 'burial.' Ordination is clearly articualted in the selecting of the 70 and the 12 and the deacons and the elders. Confession is spoken of by James as essential for healing. Each has clear scriptural origin.
Baptizing babies
Baptizing households (oikos)
Acts 16:15 Lydia and her household
Acts 16:33 Phillipian jailer and his household
1 cor 1:16 Household of Stephanas
I won't make an argument for the remainder of those Catholic-specific terms, since Catholics can make their own quite nicely.
The term "Sola Scriptura" or "the Bible alone" as the measure of truth is short hand, as it were, for the emphatic and repeated statements of Scripture and of the commandment of God. The very phrase " It is written" means exclusively transcribed, and not hearsay. The command to believe what is written means to believe only the pure word of God. It separates from all other sources the corpus what a man is to believe. What is at stake before the All Holy God is His incorruptible truth. There is no place for the "traditions of men" as Jesus spoke of nor the addition of works so prevalent in the Catholic church.
Fiddlesticks. Sola scriptura means bible only/final authority, neither which are in the scriptures, both which are extra-biblical traditions. To the point: sola scriptura is deceptive, a lie, for all scripture is understood through a set of assumptions (traditions).
The principle of "Sola Scriptura" is consistent with the very way in which the word of truth that comes from God, is to be interpreted, as Psalm 36:9 explains, "For with thee is the fountain of life; in thy light we see light". God's truth is seen in the light of God's word.
It is completely INCONSISTENT with the authority invested in the Church.
In an attempt to justify a tradition as an authority, an appeal is often made to the very last verse in John's gospel where it is stated, "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen". (John 21:25) Of course there were many of the deeds and sayings of the Lord, which are not recorded in Scripture. Scripture is the authoritative record that Holy God has given His people. We do not have a single sentence that is authoritatively from the Lord, outside of what is in the written word. To appeal to a tradition for authority when Holy God did not give it is futile. The idea that somehow sayings and events from the Lord have been recorded in tradition is simply not true.
John 21 is merely one example of a nod in the direction of authority in the Church and Her tradition. The scriptures themselves are part of the tradition of the Church, as is Trintarian theology, Christ as fully God/fully man, and so on. One might argue "those are in the bible." We would say 'we know'- all our tradition does square with bible.
You want examples of "private intrepretation, read the unbelievablly boring document, "Council of Trent" and later in the '60's the ideas presented in that vile work that was ratified in Vatican II. This will give you a better understanding of the intrepretations of the RC church and how they twisted the scriptures for their own gain and false doctirnes.
I could find every wind of doctrine ever imagined on this board alone. Some believe that James is not for us, but for the Jewish Christians. Some would place Paul over Christ. Some would tell us that everyone who disagrees with OSAS or the pre trib rapture are damned.
Now THOSE are private interpretations. Trent and Vatican 2 are simply synodical decsiions by the Roman Patriarchate (I will not refer to them as councils, since no Oecumenical council can be held without representation from the other four ancient Patriarchates in full council).
