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The History Of Plumbing

From what I understand a lot of the old Roman plumbing is still operational even now, thousands of years later. Would that we had the wherewithal to install such quality. We're lucky to get 20 years out of our systems before they start becoming an annoyance to us.Technology my butt, lol.

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<when that happens, the bill goes up. No way around it, lol.
 
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we are still using pipes,from the 1920's here and cisterns from the ww2 navy and the 50's
 
Yeah I know, but the service life of plumbing and sanitation systems seems to be getting shorter and shorter as time goes on. I work on new stuff as much or more than I do old stuff.
 
Yeah I know, but the service life of plumbing and sanitation systems seems to be getting shorter and shorter as time goes on. I work on new stuff as much or more than I do old stuff.
I'm not saying modern plumbing isnt cheaply made just that the Roman aquaducts needed a ton of attention.
 
The problem, though, with the Roman aquaducts is that they became a huge achilles heel. It was their main source of water into the city, so all an invading army had to do was demolish part of it and suddenly Rome was without water.
 
Yeah I know, but the service life of plumbing and sanitation systems seems to be getting shorter and shorter as time goes on. I work on new stuff as much or more than I do old stuff.
The days of life-time appliances and household systems is gone.
When I first got in the heating and air business we were changing out units that were 18, 20, even 22 years old...in Florida. (where they get used a lot). Nowadays they're lasting 10-12, maybe 15 years. I'm guessing by the problems were having with our new units recently installed that the industry is producing units that will only last 10 years.

You see it's basic psychology that the man who is well fed today starts thinking about how to feed himself tomorrow. Thus the planned obsolescence of the units he's producing today. The reason the automobile industry stopped thinking like that was because the public started saying something about it. And now it seems John Q Public wants a continuous flow of new cars anyway.
 
we are still using pipes,from the 1920's here and cisterns from the ww2 navy and the 50's
Galvanized pipe builds up a nice layer of deposits on the inside that keeps the water from making direct contact with the metal walls of the pipe. I don't know if that build up occurs in lead pipes over time, but it is said that lead poisoning was a terrible problem during their day.
 
Galvanized pipe builds up a nice layer of deposits on the inside that keeps the water from making direct contact with the metal walls of the pipe. I don't know if that build up occurs in lead pipes over time, but it is said that lead poisoning was a terrible problem during their day.
It has been ruled out as its been said that the scaling of pipes eliminates the risk of poisoning
 
Jethro Bodine said:
Thus the planned obsolescence of the units he's producing today.

An alternate theory. The bank is creating so much inflation that many customers can't afford to pay for superior quality parts anymore.

The reason the automobile industry stopped thinking like that...

Maybe because cars got so expensive (inflation) that most customers couldn't afford to buy them anymore at all ($30,000 for a car?) So customers started leasing cars instead of buying them. Leasers demanded that the cars last long enough that they could get their investment back in them (lease plus resale value).
 
An alternate theory. The bank is creating so much inflation that many customers can't afford to pay for superior quality parts anymore.



Maybe because cars got so expensive (inflation) that most customers couldn't afford to buy them anymore at all ($30,000 for a car?) So customers started leasing cars instead of buying them. Leasers demanded that the cars last long enough that they could get their investment back in them (lease plus resale value).
well since this is my field when inflation was way less of on the way of cost. how many engines actually lasted to 10000 miles? very few.you nor I remember every thirty thousand miles ripping apart these for simple maintance. generators(brush failure), carb cleaning. the sulfur in oil reduced the life of engines. cars are made much better then back then. there is of course in some means planned obsolence that is because well build a car to outlive the the customer or a long time , you wont be around to sell and another car.
 
It has been ruled out as its been said that the scaling of pipes eliminates the risk of poisoning

I don't think lead builds up deposits. The galvanized pipes will, after the water has washed off the galvanization and expose the raw steel of the pipe beneath, then it begins rusting.
 
I don't think lead builds up deposits. The galvanized pipes will, after the water has washed off the galvanization and expose the raw steel of the pipe beneath, then it begins rusting.
Wiki says otherwise.it has pics.
 
Wiki says otherwise.it has pics.

I don't know. I'm just going by experience. Some stuff may stick to the inside of lead pipes, but it's not caused by a reaction with the metal or there would be more of it (like galvanized pipes).

Your link to some pics took me to a movie theater, lol.
 
I don't know. I'm just going by experience. Some stuff may stick to the inside of lead pipes, but it's not caused by a reaction with the metal or there would be more of it (like galvanized pipes).

Your link to some pics took me to a movie theater, lol.
I haven't posted it.that's my siggy.link was to the old vero drive in
 
Wiki on Rome said:
...the level of lead in this water continued to be 100 times higher than in local spring waters...

Yuck. Who would want to drink that?
 
This is an important topic, Lewis, and one worth bringing up. The concept behind ancient plumbing can help us locate the Holy Temple's original location. The water entered at Wilson's arch and travelled via aqueducts to various points on the temple compound. By definition, an aqueduct is a channel that brings water to a location, usually open. This is important because so many people today think the Dome of the Rock is where the temple was located, but if so, then the open water would have to run uphill 20 meters. The only way this is possible was if some of the aqueducts were sealed and maybe ran through an inverted syphon. As long as the water supply (a distant lake) is higher than the end point this would work. An inverted syphon, much like your trap in a sink drain, was prone to get clogged, however.

Important equations plumbers use to calculate water flow and pressure is the source's "head". In physics, potential energy E=mgh where m is mass, g gravitational acceleration, and h is the height. A similar formula for the pressure (head) is P=ρgh where ρ (rho) is the density of the fluid, and g and h are the same. Thus, you can calculate water pressure of a water tower, say, 50 feet off the ground. Modern electrical pumps give "head" mechanically. This is static pressure and pressure is the measure of force per unit area, which is the same as energy contained in a given volume of fluid.

As for flow, I won't get into the details of the math as it's a bit more complex, but there's something called Bernoulli's equations that states the static and dynamic (moving water) pressures are a constant. There's also a useful formula plumbers use to calculate the pressure drop from friction in a pipe given a certain water flow rate. This is the Darcy- Weisbach equation and is analogues to electronics where voltage (pressure) = current(flow) X resistance.
 
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