francisdesales
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RichardBurger said:francisdesales said:Faulty logic based on the worship of rational thought...
One can know that something exists, some basic ideas about something, but it doesn't follow that introducing some knowledge to someone means they are now experts and know everything about it...
Case in point. People married for quite a long time, they think they know their spouses very well.
And then they are proven wrong. Happens all the time. We are dealing with relationships and a transcendant Being, not the color of an apple... Even when people reveal something about themselves, it doesn't mean we know everything about them.
Funny how you focused on that one part and totally ignored the others.
Notice that in Acts 3:21 Peter is proclaiming things made known by the prophets since the world began. In contrast, in the book of Romans, 16:25, Paul is proclaiming things kept secret since the world began.
THINGS made known. Doesn't say EVERYTHING made known. What is made known is that God would save man through a suffering servant, turning out to be His Only Son. The Scriptures do not talk about the level of knowledge that knows the "mind of God" to the degree you try to pretend existed or exists even now...
If I tell you that the starting QB for the New Orleans Saints will be Drew Brees, does that mean you know everything about the New Orleans Saints? About how he will play, what plays he will run, what he will execute???? Hardly. It is something revealed - but it doesn't follow that this (or the revelation made to the prophets) was all-encompassing. That is poor logic.
RichardBurger said:Something made known cannot be a secret and something kept secret has not been made known.
Even Peter and Paul didn't know everything about God and His plan. For example, Paul thought the world was coming to an end when he wrote to the Thessalonians and Corinthians. This is nearly 30 years after his conversion experience - he STILL didn't know everything. No one knows everything but God. Why are you even pressing this issue, it is utterly ridiculous to claim that any Christian knows all about the mind of God.
RichardBurger said:Notice that Peter proclaimed the crucifixion of Jesus as something for the Jews to repent of (Acts 2) where Paul proclaimed that he gloried in the cross of Christ (Gal 6:11-15). Clearly, Peter and Paul proclaimed two different messages.
How about rationalizing the other two.
How about realizing that the Crucifixion occured for more than one reason?