the Lord's supper in the gospels

[Mysteryman]

HI

Just for your info, and because I love you and everyone else here - The NIV is a joke ! Just compare it to the many other translations, and it should be evident.

Fine.

Let's look at a few others and you can tell us how they differ in meaning:

NIV:
27Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.

KJV:
27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

Douay-Rheims Bible
27 Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord

ESV:
27Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. 28Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself.

Hi Chester

Now do a comparison of verse 18

 

[chestertonrules]

Now do a comparison of verse 18

New International Version (©1984)
In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church, there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it.
New Living Translation (©2007)
First, I hear that there are divisions among you when you meet as a church, and to some extent I believe it.

English Standard Version (©2001)
For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you. And I believe it in part,

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that divisions exist among you; and in part I believe it.

International Standard Version (©2008)
For in the first place, I hear that when you gather as a church there are divisions among you, and I partly believe it.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
In the first place, I hear that when you gather as a church you split up into opposing groups. I believe some of what I hear.

King James Bible
For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

American King James Version
For first of all, when you come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

 

[Mysteryman]

Now do a comparison of verse 18

New International Version (©1984)
In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church, there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it.
New Living Translation (©2007)
First, I hear that there are divisions among you when you meet as a church, and to some extent I believe it.

English Standard Version (©2001)
For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you. And I believe it in part,

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that divisions exist among you; and in part I believe it.

International Standard Version (©2008)
For in the first place, I hear that when you gather as a church there are divisions among you, and I partly believe it.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
In the first place, I hear that when you gather as a church you split up into opposing groups. I believe some of what I hear.

King James Bible
For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

American King James Version
For first of all, when you come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

Now verse 19

 

[francisdesales]

Now do a comparison of verse 18

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Now verse 19[/quote]

Is there a point to this, or are we going to cite all the various translations of the entire chapter???

Trolling???

 

[chestertonrules]

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Now verse 19

Give me a break. Just admit you don't accept the bible as written. You won't be alone.

 

[Mysteryman]

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Now verse 19

Give me a break. Just admit you don't accept the bible as written. You won't be alone.

You are the one who wanted to do this the hard way. So I was just entertaining your wish.

Our translations are not the Spirit of truth ! Those who have the Spirit of Truth will understand the truth. Those who rely upon their translations for everything, will come away with what only their physical eyes see .

 

[chestertonrules]

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Our translations are not the Spirit of truth ! Those who have the Spirit of Truth will understand the truth. Those who rely upon their translations for everything, will come away with what only their physical eyes see .

Thus saith Pope Mysteryman.


Jesus only started one Church, however, so I don't accept your claim to infallible authority.

 

[MMarc]

So when Jesus broke the bread and said eat for this is my body, if I follow your logic, the bread turned into real physical flesh? Ok.....

Slowly backing away... :D

Another unbeliever...

The Eucharist is a sacrament that ultimately depends upon faith. Faith in the Words of our Lord who SAID "THIS IS MY BODY". Did it turn into physical flesh? No. It remained bread in appearance, physically. The form remains bread, but it is now flesh. The flesh of Jesus, as He said.

You are indeed "backing away", just as the original Jews who left the Christ did in John 6.

I was backing away from your ignorance on spiritual matters.

But leaven always puffs up the blind. Oh well

 

[francisdesales]

Our translations are not the Spirit of truth ! Those who have the Spirit of Truth will understand the truth. Those who rely upon their translations for everything, will come away with what only their physical eyes see .

You are a deluded individual, aren't you...

Before continuing, give some evidence of your argument. Contrary to popular opinion, I am not aware of anyone who asserts that YOU have more knowledge on this than the REST of the translations available... We just will not simply take you at your word.

So if you cannot provide any support for your assertion that we do not have the Word of God, stop trolling.

 

[francisdesales]

I was backing away from your ignorance on spiritual matters.

But leaven always puffs up the blind. Oh well

Ah, name-calling. I was wondering when you'd get to it.

 

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