The Moon Turning to Blood - Light and Dark

[whirlwind]

The ultimate goal of this thread is to understand....the moon turning to blood on the day of the Lord. This subject, as many others, doesn't stand alone so to fully understand it is necessary to address connecting topics.

Genesis 1:3-4 And God said, "Let there be light;" and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day (day one.)

• 1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of Him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.

Notice how the same subject is given in the same chapter and verse number of Genesis and 1 John. By chance? This light is not the sun! Another witness that tells us what that Light is can be found in.....

• Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Genesis 1:14-16 And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth:" and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: He made the stars also.

• We as children of the light are ruled by the "greater light." There are other children. :verysad

John 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.

• 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us

1:4-5 In Him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

• If we receive that light, His life, then we live. We are spiritually alive. We are, or will be, "as the lightening (shining) cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." [Matthew 24:27]
  
  That is the body of Christ shining over the world. That is us. We are to shine His light on others, "upon the earth" and we are all of the earth. This includes those of the earth that are "ruled by the night."

1:6-9 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, Which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

• God sends us too, He sends the man child(ren), to bear witness of the Light, of Jesus. We, as witnesses are to give witness of that Light. Why? So that ALL MEN, not just the elect, not just the chosen but ALL MEN "might believe."

1:12 But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name:

Jesus is the Light and that Light dwells in us If we receive Him. As Jesus is the Light....who is the darkness? Who are those that darkness dwells in? And what do they have to do with the moon turning to blood?

 

[whirlwind]

As Jesus is the Light...who is the darkness? Who is the "lesser of the great lights," the one that rules the night?

• Ephesians 6:12 (666) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Well...that certainly has his number, 666, on it. :o Notice that there are "rulers," plural, of the darkness, all answering to the "lesser of the lights." The moon! The moon is the lunar light from which we get...lunatic or..."raving mad." Consider....

• Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
  
  [list:2vfeii70]To and Fro - Apostatize. Those who turn aside to lies. The Septuagint, Swete's edition, vol. iii, p. 572(A) reads = "till many shall have gone raving mad." E.W. Bullinger

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All Biblical prophecy about Satan is given in months...lunar/moon. The moon is the lesser of the great lights and it rules the darkness.

• Isaiah 24:20-21 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

We are made of the earth, those of us not in Christ shall "reel to and fro" in apostasy....going raving mad with deception. In that day, the Lord's Day, He will punish those causing the deception, the lunacy, both in heaven and on earth. Again notice that those on high are shown in plural, the "high ones," just as the "kings of the earth" are more than one.

• 24:22-23 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited. Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

The wicked are gathered in the pit for the duration of the millennium. When they "shall be visited," I believe, is when they are judged by God at the great white throne judgment. [Revelation 20:11-15] Then we shall see the "new heaven and a new earth," for we will then be in the eternity. Then the "moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed," for The LORD is there as written of in.....

• Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

But, what of..... "before that great and terrible day of the LORD?"

 

[whirlwind]

Before that great day....the moon, the lesser light, still shines, still influences, has it's way in the tidal pulls of the sea and earth (humanity).


Joel 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for He hath given you the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.

• The "former rain" makes the seed sprout but it is the "latter rain," given in the hot, dry time of summer...before the time of harvest, that brings the plant to fruition. Without it the plants would "blast," in the field (the world). The gentle former rain, the milk, on the child, the tender seedlings but the stronger latter rain, the meat, on the mature plants...on the man child.
  
  [list:10k4frhq] Deuteronomy 32:2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, My speech shall distil as the dew, As the small rain upon the tender herb, And as the showers upon the grass:

That former rain is showered on everyone as He wants "all to come to repentance."

• Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

But...not so with the latter rain, which I believe are God's deeper truths, for they are only given to the "children of Zion," in the "first month." The first month of, I believe, the three and one half year tribulation. The first month of our time in the wilderness. [/list:u:10k4frhq]


Joel 2:27-30 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and My people shall never be ashamed. And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out My spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out My spirit. And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

The children of Zion, those that receive the latter rain, are those that shall KNOW Jesus is IN US and we IN HIM! They/we are the Israel He is in the midst of, we are Zion, His holy mountain/nation....

• Joel 3:17 So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, My holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more. (21) For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion.

"Afterward," after that latter rain is given to His children of Zion then....then does He "pour out My spirit upon all flesh." This is before the "great and terrible day of the Lord," before His second advent...during the five month great tribulation of Satan. That is when.....

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.

But still....what does that mean?

 

[whirlwind]

• Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.

The "great and terrible day of the Lord" begins with the second Advent of Christ. The above event happens BEFORE that day. Who arrives before the true Savior? The fake christ....anti christ, the instead of christ, the great deceiver. Earlier in this thread we saw that the "light" is God and that "darkness" is Satan. When the "sun shall be turned into darkness" is when the darkness arrives pretending to be the light, when the moon arrives pretending to be the sun, when Satan/darkness arrives pretending to be the Savior, the Son/Sun.

As he is the great deceiver he will, in every way, attempt to mimic Christ in order to deceive God's children. It is written! We must be wiser than the serpent!

• Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in My holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;

At hand...but not yet here. The trumpet sounding is an alarm to Zion, His holy mountain/nation, to those aware of the events, to those who receive the latter rain. This is the sixth trumpet. Satan's time, his hour of temptation. And, the inhabitants of the land should tremble.

• 2:2-3 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.

This is spiritual. They arrive to deceive and as written...nothing shall escape them, except those that heeded the alarm.

• 2:4-5 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run. Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.

Does that mean they will look like horses? No...when they appear, when it is their time at the sixth trumpet, they will appear as foretold in Scripture. What "horses and horsemen and chariots" are these? Those written of in Zechariah and Revelation, including.....

• Revelation 6:1-2 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, "Come and see." And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him; and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
  
  [list:3bj0ca45]This is the pretender. Satan arriving as Christ, darkness as the light. When he does, at the sixth trump it will be as written.....

6:12 (666) And I beheld when He had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.[/list:u:3bj0ca45]

That happens before the second Advent and it is Satan's tribulation, his hour of temptation. Look at the similarities of what happens immediately AFTER that tribulation....

• Matthew 24:29-30 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Here, at the true arrival, second Advent, the sun is darkened and moon doesn't give light as they are outshown by Jesus and His saints. The saints are the stars that fall with Him. They, Jesus and His saints, are the body of Christ coming in the clouds of heaven. Their "great glory" is what will outshine the sun and moon. Why do the tribes mourn? Because they will then realize they fell for the deception of Satan. They believed the fake was the Savior.

We must know the sequence of events. We must be aware of those that arrive before the true Savior or we will take part in the great apostasy. We will take the mark of the beast.

 

[Joe67]

Gal 6:17
17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus. KJV

Those who bear in their body the marks of the Lord Jesus will not be deceived by the mark of the beast.

Joe

 

[whirlwind]

In conclusion.....During the tribulation of Satan:

• Joel 2:9-10 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief. The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:

The "stars withdraw their shining," as these stars are leaving, being kicked out of...heaven. These are fallen angels, appearing as men (flesh and blood) but they are supernatural and for that reason, it is written both above and....

• Joel 2:7-9 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks: neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.

We see the words "to and fro" (apostasy), associated with them. The "city" they run through with their deception is Jerusalem...not the literal Jerusalem but us, believers, God's city. This is all spiritual. It is great deception, an imitation of the arrival of Jesus...the time of great apostasy when Christians take the mark, believe Satan's deception. But, not all will for He has a great army and that army put on their gospel armor...

• 2:11 And the LORD shall utter His voice before His army: for His camp is very great: for He is strong that executeth His word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?

The Holy Spirit will speak through His witnesses and many souls will be saved. This is when His spirit is poured "upon all flesh." [Joel 2:28-32]

• 2:15-17 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly: Gather the People, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet. Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, "Spare Thy People, O LORD, and give not Thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, 'Where is their God?' "

This is the blowing of the seventh trumpet! Satan's hour is over. The true Savior will arrive, "let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber" and He comes with His saints.

At the beginning the question was asked....what is meant by "the moon into blood."

• Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:
  
  Revelation 6:12 (666) And I beheld when He had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the (full) moon became as blood;

As darkness turns into the sun, the moon/darkness/Satan, is turned into blood. Does that mean the literal moon becomes blood? Does it mean the symbolic moon/Satan becomes blood, flesh and blood? Paul tells us...

• Ephesians 6:12 (666) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
  
  6:13-19 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints, And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

But, as shown above, in [Revelation 6:12], the moon doesn't just turn to blood but "became as blood."

• Revelation 17:5-6 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. (18) And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

There is part of the answer. That is the blood the moon is "turned into."

• Turned #2015 ~ to turn about or over; by impl. to change, overturn, return, pervert - become, change, come, be converted, give, make (a bed), overthrow (-turn), perverse, retire, tumble, turn (again, aside, back, to the contrary, every way) 2017, from 2015; an upset, i.e. (abstr). perversity; - turning of things upside down.

The darkness, there shown as the great whore, the great city Babylon....who is the first beast, wants, fights for and turns to the blood of the saints! She is "drunken with their blood." How does she accomplish this?

• Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
  
  13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues and nations.

How does she make war? With deception. Great spiritual deception. There we see the second part of the equation, when the "moon became as blood." The moon doesn't become flesh and blood but it "became as" blood. Those pretending to be flesh and blood are those written of in the second chapter of Joel. They are Satan's army of fallen angels. The horses, horsemen and chariots we are warned of for they are here to deceive God's children. And....they shall deceive many!

• 1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

 

[Ret]

The ultimate goal of this thread is to understand....the moon turning to blood on the day of the Lord. This subject, as many others, doesn't stand alone so to fully understand it is necessary to address connecting topics.

Genesis 1:3-4 And God said, "Let there be light;" and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day (day one.)

• 1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of Him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.

Positions ...out / in .... without / within .... darkness / light

• Luke 11:40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without
  make that which is within also? KJV
  
  Psalms 18:9 He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet.
  11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies. KJV
  
  Psalms 139:12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day:
  the darkness and the light are both alike to thee. KJV
  
  Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness:
  I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. KJV

To those who would understand the 7 seals, know that the BOOK has TWO sides...
INSIDE and OUTSIDE >> Humanity is able to see the outside (darkness) of this book,
but the inside (light) is SEALED ... is not comprehended by the darkness!

• Revelation 5:1
  5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book
  written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. KJV

The creation story is a SEALED BOOK ... so that 'light' and it's division from 'darkness' as shown in the 7 days of creation is hidden in the 7 seals of Revelation chapters 6-8.

 

[whirlwind]

The ultimate goal of this thread is to understand....the moon turning to blood on the day of the Lord. This subject, as many others, doesn't stand alone so to fully understand it is necessary to address connecting topics.

Genesis 1:3-4 And God said, "Let there be light;" and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day (day one.)

• 1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of Him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.

Positions ...out / in .... without / within .... darkness / light

• Luke 11:40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without
  make that which is within also? KJV
  
  Psalms 18:9 He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet.
  11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies. KJV
  
  Psalms 139:12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day:
  the darkness and the light are both alike to thee. KJV
  
  Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness:
  I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. KJV

To those who would understand the 7 seals, know that the BOOK has TWO sides...
INSIDE and OUTSIDE >> Humanity is able to see the outside (darkness) of this book,
but the inside (light) is SEALED ... is not comprehended by the darkness!

• Revelation 5:1
  5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book
  written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. KJV

The creation story is a SEALED BOOK ... so that 'light' and it's division from 'darkness' as shown in the 7 days of creation is hidden in the 7 seals of Revelation chapters 6-8.

Ret, it is good to have you back...I see you survived your grandchildren.

I love the point you made, for it is not one I had noticed before, about the "two sides" to the book. Your point is further made by the next verse....

• Revelation 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the book, AND to loose the seals thereof?"

The book must not only be opened but seals must be loosed (dissolved). Two different events. The loosening of the seals is the revealing of the light. He is the Light.

You state, "the seven days of creation is hidden in the seven seals of Revelation, chapters six to eight." This sounds like a really terrific study. Please teach what you are seeing.

 

[Ret]

Ret, it is good to have you back...I see you survived your grandchildren.

Hummm....that's an understatement

I love the point you made, for it is not one I had noticed before, about the "two sides" to the book.

A little more about the book - two sides - bitter & sweet... My understanding is that the 'book' in Rev 5 and this 'little book' in Rev 10 have a similar message with Rev 5 - the book is 'sealed'... whereas, Rev 10 the 'little book is 'open' but gives the experience of John EATING the book...in his mouth it was SWEET 'as honey', next it was BITTER in his belly. (Justification is sweet - Sanctification is bitter >> the elect will 'eat the book' too!)

• Revelation 10:8-9
  
  8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
  
  9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. KJV

• Proverbs 27:7 The full soul loatheth an honeycomb;
  but to the hungry soul every bitter thing is sweet. KJV
  
  Isaiah 5:20
  20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil;
  that put darkness for light, and light for darkness;
  that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! KJV

Your point is further made by the next verse....

• Revelation 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the book, AND to loose the seals thereof?"

The book must not only be opened but seals must be loosed (dissolved). Two different events. The loosening of the seals is the revealing of the light. He is the Light.

Hummm... opened = loosed .... dissolved = judgment

• 2 Corinthians 5:1
  5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved,
  we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. KJV

Who is worthy to open the book?....Rev 5:5 says the 'Lion from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David'. However, v6 presents a 'Lamb, standing (judging) as if slain, with 7 horns and 7 eyes. So, how did the LION come to be a LAMB...? Here we have a sample of open/dissolve. The Lion opens the book...the Lamb dissolves, judges the Lion...

• Psalms 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder:
  the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. KJV
  
  1 Corinthians 1:27
  27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise;
  and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound
  the things which are mighty; KJV

WW...I'm starting on the 7-day creation/7-seals ...but have never put this together in written form before neither have I studdied anyone else putting these together...

 

[Ret]

You state, "the seven days of creation is hidden in the seven seals of Revelation, chapters six to eight." This sounds like a really terrific study. Please teach what you are seeing. [/b]

Rather than 'teaching' ... will share what the spirit of God impresses on my heart and mind.

In Genesis, The first Six days begin with 'EVENING'...darkness, flesh and it's understanding.
The first Six days, finish with 'MORNING'...as spiritual truth is given in the spirit.

Within this study, I will concentrate on 'MORNING', with occasional reference to 'EVENING'
and more specifically with the first 4 days & first 4 seals - 'The Moon Turning to Blood'
........................................

Genesis 1 - Day ONE...God says 'let there be LIGHT'. Then God divides the LIGHT from the DARKNESS. The LIGHT HE called - DAY .... The DARKNESS HE called - NIGHT!

• John 1:5
  5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. KJV
  
  John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. KJV

The first seal also has an EVENING/darkness/anti-christ truth followed by a MORNING/spiritual truth which IS NOT comprehended by the darkness. Egyptian HORSES are flesh and not spirit (Isaiah 31:3). Man has 'my bow' (Ps 44:6), and 'a deceitful bow' (Hosea 7:16). Also 'BOW' is an act of homage, or worship, either man's way or God's way.

Within the MORNING/spiritual understanding, God's has a bow which has more than one meaning. It is symbolic of 'covenant'. It is also symbolic of an instrument of war (conquering) and worship.

• Revelation 6:2 - The First Seal
  2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. KJV
  
  Isaiah 31:3 Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; and their horses flesh, and not spirit. KJV
  Zech 4:6 Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts. KJV
  
  Genesis 9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a
  token [sign] of a covenant between me and the earth.
  
  Psalms 7:11-13
  11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
  12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready.
  13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors. KJV
  
  2 Timothy 4:8
  8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. KJV

The bow, and the crown, are both in refrence to the ONE riding the WHITE HORSE, the horse of LIGHT - the LIGHT, the SPIRIT of Day ONE.

 

[Ret]

Genesis....Day TWO says the 'waters' (peoples) below were separated, divided from the 'waters' (peoples) that are ABOVE. This is what happens in the Second SEAL ...

• Revelation 6:4 - Second SEAL
  4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. KJV
  
  Matt 10:34
  34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. KJV
  
  Hebrews 4:12
  12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. KJV

God gives the elect a 'sword' (the WORD of GOD) ... this SWORD is what divides those (Gen day 2 waters/peoples) that live in heaven from those (Gen day 2/waters/peoples) that live on earth ....accomplished by the RED horse having the SWORD of the WORD!

 

[whirlwind]

You state, "the seven days of creation is hidden in the seven seals of Revelation, chapters six to eight." This sounds like a really terrific study. Please teach what you are seeing. [/b]

Rather than 'teaching' ... will share what the spirit of God impresses on my heart and mind.

In Genesis, The first Six days begin with 'EVENING'...darkness, flesh and it's understanding.
The first Six days, finish with 'MORNING'...as spiritual truth is given in the spirit.

Within this study, I will concentrate on 'MORNING', with occasional reference to 'EVENING'
and more specifically with the first 4 days & first 4 seals - 'The Moon Turning to Blood'
........................................

Genesis 1 - Day ONE...God says 'let there be LIGHT'. Then God divides the LIGHT from the DARKNESS. The LIGHT HE called - DAY .... The DARKNESS HE called - NIGHT!

• John 1:5
  5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. KJV
  
  John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. KJV

The first seal also has an EVENING/darkness/anti-christ truth followed by a MORNING/spiritual truth which IS NOT comprehended by the darkness. Egyptian HORSES are flesh and not spirit (Isaiah 31:3). Man has 'my bow' (Ps 44:6), and 'a deceitful bow' (Hosea 7:16). Also 'BOW' is an act of homage, or worship, either man's way or God's way.

Within the MORNING/spiritual understanding, God's has a bow which has more than one meaning. It is symbolic of 'covenant'. It is also symbolic of an instrument of war (conquering) and worship.

• Revelation 6:2 - The First Seal
  2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. KJV
  
  Isaiah 31:3 Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; and their horses flesh, and not spirit. KJV
  Zech 4:6 Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts. KJV
  
  Genesis 9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a
  token [sign] of a covenant between me and the earth.
  
  Psalms 7:11-13
  11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
  12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready.
  13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors. KJV
  
  2 Timothy 4:8
  8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. KJV

The bow, and the crown, are both in refrence to the ONE riding the WHITE HORSE, the horse of LIGHT - the LIGHT, the SPIRIT of Day ONE.

You have made some interesting connections. I just read your second post on this subject and can't wait to really study what you've written. I agree with your conclusions here except the main one. There are many here that agree with the first rider being the Light but I continue to see him as the fake Christ. You said...

• "In Genesis, The first Six days begin with 'EVENING'...darkness, flesh and it's understanding.".....
  
  "The DARKNESS HE called - NIGHT!"
  
  "The first seal also has an EVENING/darkness/anti-christ truth followed by a MORNING/spiritual truth which IS NOT comprehended by the darkness. Egyptian HORSES are flesh and not spirit (Isaiah 31:3). Man has 'my bow' (Ps 44:6), and 'a deceitful bow' (Hosea 7:16)."
  
  "The bow, and the crown, are both in refrence to the ONE riding the WHITE HORSE, the horse of LIGHT - the LIGHT, the SPIRIT of Day ONE."

I agree that "the bow and the crown are both in reference" to the rider of the white horse and I think you have drawn a great parallel between Genesis and Revelation but....I see the first rider associated with "evening, darkness, night." In other words, I see him as the fake Jesus, coming to deceive the world. He has the "deceitful bow." After the sixth seal we see the Light, the true Light. We may have to disagree on this one point.

 

[whirlwind]

Genesis....Day TWO says the 'waters' (peoples) below were separated, divided from the 'waters' (peoples) that are ABOVE. This is what happens in the Second SEAL ...

• Revelation 6:4 - Second SEAL
  4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. KJV
  
  Matt 10:34
  34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. KJV

• 
  
  
  :o That is a fascinating connection! I'm still seeing these riders as Satan's crew but again...very interesting parallel verse.
  
  

  Hebrews 4:12
  12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. KJV

God gives the elect a 'sword' (the WORD of GOD) ... this SWORD is what divides those (Gen day 2 waters/peoples) that live in heaven from those (Gen day 2/waters/peoples) that live on earth ....accomplished by the RED horse having the SWORD of the WORD!

What about the timing of the waters/people being separated "in the beginning" and the red horse with the sword now separating those in heaven and earth? Are you saying the red horse and the sword were dividing in the beginning or....am I being dense? :silly I'm seeing some of what you are saying but...the glass is still dark.

 

[follower of Christ]

oh for pities sake.... :bigfrown
Where to begin and is it even worth the time and effort...

Why dont you guys just open a bible and throw darts at it...I mean, that certainly is one way to 'divide' it..even if its not 'rightly' done...

 

[Ret]

Genesis....Day THREE.

Earth and seas...dry land is called EARTH, the waters (peoples) gathered together are called SEAS. The earth brings forth vegetation and fruit trees, each of which produce fruitbearing seed/fruit "after their kind".

• Revelation 6:5,6 - Third SEAL
  
  5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
  
  6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. KJV[/b]

Black horse = balances the scales, desolation, mourning, a state of weakness ... selling the wheat and the barley, but does not dammage the oil and the wine.

• Jeremiah 14:2
  2 Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground (the earth/land is DRY-3rd day); and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up. KJV

OIL is produced from 'seed' and WINE is produced from fruit - the product of day 3. The Oil and the WINE of the 3rd seal are spiritually protected, because they have produced "AFTER their KIND" opposite to those that 'dwell on the earth' who have not produced OIL and the WINE - 'after their kind'!

On DAY THREE - dry land appears on the earth (not in heaven). When the land/earth is DRY, something is spiritually lacking...WATER! God corrects this condition with BALANCES by 'BALANCING' the TREES, LAND/EARTH...

• Ezekiel 17:24
  24 And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought
  ...down the high tree, have
  ...exalted the low tree, have
  ...dried up the green tree, and have
  ...made the dry tree to flourish:
  
  Isaiah 40:4 Every valley shall be exalted,
  and every mountain and hill shall be made low:
  and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: KJV
  
  John 4:14
  14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst;
  but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. KJV
  
  Rev 21:6
  6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. KJV

The EVENING and the MORNING of day 3 ... From Genesis to Revelation!

 

[whirlwind]

oh for pities sake.... :bigfrown
Where to begin and is it even worth the time and effort...

Why dont you guys just open a bible and throw darts at it...I mean, that certainly is one way to 'divide' it..even if its not 'rightly' done...

Well...FOC. I wondered where you were and here pops up your sweet old self. :D

 

[Ret]

Genesis....Day FOUR - The Moon Turning to Blood - Light and Dark

Day 4 of Genesis...Lights (not light but many lights), sun, moon, stars....

Purpose of these 'lights'?
A. To divide day from night
B. For Signs and seasons
C. For Days and Years
D. The greater light - the SUN to RULE and GOVERN the DAY...!
E. The lesser light - the Moon to RULE and GOVERN the NIGHT...!

• Psalms 121:5-7
  5 The LORD is thy keeper: the LORD is thy shade upon thy right hand.
  6 The sun shall not smite thee by day, nor the moon by night.
  7 The LORD shall preserve thee from all evil: he shall preserve thy soul. KJV

Revelation 6: - Fourth SEAL!

• Revelation 6:8
  8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth (not heaven), to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. KJV
  
  Romans 8:36-37
  36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long;
  we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
  37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. KJV
  
  Luke 12:5
  5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear:
  Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell;
  yea, I say unto you, Fear him. KJV
  
  Note: ...the sun, moon, and stars - all the host of heaven are given to the nations to worship, but they are not given to the children of God to worship. To the elect...God alone will be worshiped in the 'day of the Lord'.
  
  Amos 5:18
  18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you?
  the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. KJV
  
  Deuteronomy 4:19-20
  
  19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
  
  20 But the LORD hath taken you, and brought you forth out of the iron furnace, even out of Egypt, to be unto him a people of inheritance, as ye are this day.KJV
  
  Job 31:25-28
  25 If I rejoiced because my wealth was great, and because mine hand had gotten much;
  26 If I beheld the sun when it shined, or the moon walking in brightness;
  27 And my heart hath been secretly enticed, or my mouth hath kissed my hand:
  28 This also were an iniquity to be punished by the judge: for I should have denied the God that is above. KJV

Similar (overlapping/a deeper work) is the fourth angel in Rev 16....

• Revelation 16:8-9
  8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
  9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory. KJV

RE: The OP....The Moon Turning to BLOOD - Light and Dark... so it is, that all of this creation, land, earth, and sea...must die and be replaced with the real thing!

• Isaiah 60:19
  19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. KJV

 

[Ret]

You have made some interesting connections. I just read your second post on this subject and can't wait to really study what you've written. I agree with your conclusions here except the main one. There are many here that agree with the first rider being the Light but I continue to see him as the fake Christ. You said...

• "In Genesis, The first Six days begin with 'EVENING'...darkness, flesh and it's understanding.".....
  
  "The DARKNESS HE called - NIGHT!"
  
  "The first seal also has an EVENING/darkness/anti-christ truth followed by a MORNING/spiritual truth which IS NOT comprehended by the darkness. Egyptian HORSES are flesh and not spirit (Isaiah 31:3). Man has 'my bow' (Ps 44:6), and 'a deceitful bow' (Hosea 7:16)."
  
  "The bow, and the crown, are both in refrence to the ONE riding the WHITE HORSE, the horse of LIGHT - the LIGHT, the SPIRIT of Day ONE."

I agree that "the bow and the crown are both in reference" to the rider of the white horse and I think you have drawn a great parallel between Genesis and Revelation but....I see the first rider associated with "evening, darkness, night." In other words, I see him as the fake Jesus, coming to deceive the world. He has the "deceitful bow."

Agreed, the Anti-christ, has a 'deceitful bow', I also believe the Anti-christ comes 'first' as in Genesis evening comes before morning. My conclusion is that Rev 6:1-2 is talking about the Anti-christ within the understanding of "evening, darkness, night.". However, within the understanding of LIGHT/MORNING - I see in Rev 6:1-2 the true JESUS Christ as in Psalms...

WW, how do you see the BOW in Psalms...?

• Psalms 7:11-13
  11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
  12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready.
  13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors. KJV
  

After the sixth seal we see the Light, the true Light. We may have to disagree on this one point.

WW...I believe the 'true light' dawns on the Second seal / Day 2 of creation ... when the waters are separated from the waters - the 'RED HORSE' takes peace from the EARTH...thereby, spiritually I now LIVE in HEAVEN!

• 2 Peter 1:19
  19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: KJV

. . . . :amen

edit to clarify

 

[Ret]

What about the timing of the waters/people being separated "in the beginning" and the red horse with the sword now separating those in heaven and earth? Are you saying the red horse and the sword were dividing in the beginning or....am I being dense? :silly I'm seeing some of what you are saying but...the glass is still dark.

In our human flesh, we look at things through TIME, but TIME is not a limiting factor with God. God planned everything in this earth before the existence of TIME. Though not in the reality of TIME as perceived in the flesh, waters/people were separated "in the beginning" - in God's plan.

FOR ME, as the 'RED horse' slays with a SWORD (word of God) and takes peace from the 'earth' (MY EARTH) I no longer want to 'DWELL on this (MY) EARTH'! Likewise, each individual who would 'dwell in heaven' will endure the work of the SWORD of God! From the individual, the earth, the nations, to the church!

 

[whirlwind]

You have made some interesting connections. I just read your second post on this subject and can't wait to really study what you've written. I agree with your conclusions here except the main one. There are many here that agree with the first rider being the Light but I continue to see him as the fake Christ. You said...

• "In Genesis, The first Six days begin with 'EVENING'...darkness, flesh and it's understanding.".....
  
  "The DARKNESS HE called - NIGHT!"
  
  "The first seal also has an EVENING/darkness/anti-christ truth followed by a MORNING/spiritual truth which IS NOT comprehended by the darkness. Egyptian HORSES are flesh and not spirit (Isaiah 31:3). Man has 'my bow' (Ps 44:6), and 'a deceitful bow' (Hosea 7:16)."
  
  "The bow, and the crown, are both in refrence to the ONE riding the WHITE HORSE, the horse of LIGHT - the LIGHT, the SPIRIT of Day ONE."

I agree that "the bow and the crown are both in reference" to the rider of the white horse and I think you have drawn a great parallel between Genesis and Revelation but....I see the first rider associated with "evening, darkness, night." In other words, I see him as the fake Jesus, coming to deceive the world. He has the "deceitful bow."

Agreed, the Anti-christ, has a 'deceitful bow', I also believe the Anti-christ comes 'first' as in Genesis evening comes before morning. My conclusion is that Rev 6:1-2 is talking about the Anti-christ within the understanding of "evening, darkness, night.". However, within the understanding of LIGHT/MORNING - I see in Rev 6:1-2 the true JESUS Christ as in Psalms...

Are you saying the rider represents both?

WW, how do you see the BOW in Psalms...?

• Psalms 7:11-13
  11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
  12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready.
  13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors. KJV
  

There, the "bow" is a weapon, as is the sword but in Revelation the bow with the rider is a rainbow. I see it as the fake rainbow. The true Christ will be surrounded with a true rainbow. [Revelation 4:3]

After the sixth seal we see the Light, the true Light. We may have to disagree on this one point.

WW...I believe the 'true light' dawns on the Second seal / Day 2 of creation ... when the waters are separated from the waters - the 'RED HORSE' takes peace from the EARTH...thereby, spiritually I now LIVE in HEAVEN!

• 2 Peter 1:19
  19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: KJV

. . . . :amen

Amen! I agree that the true light dawned on the second day but not that He was represented by the red horse. All those horses represent evil to me.

In our human flesh, we look at things through TIME, but TIME is not a limiting factor with God. God planned everything in this earth before the existence of TIME. Though not in the reality of TIME as perceived in the flesh, waters/people were separated "in the beginning" - in God's plan.

FOR ME, as the 'RED horse' KILLS and takes peace from the 'earth' (MY EARTH) I no longer want to 'DWELL on this EARTH'! Likewise, each individual who would 'dwell in heaven' must endure the work of the SWORD! From the individual, the earth, the nations, to the church!

:headbomb Okay...I need to read back over this and sleep on it. Maybe it will be clearer in the morning. I agree with the time thing and that God had this plan from the beginning but I don't understand the red horse, actually either of the horses. How can the white horse be both Satan and Jesus? And, how can the red horse kill, take peace, etc. and yet be associated with the dawning of the Light?