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As much as I dislike many tenets of EO and RCC orthodoxy, they DID have it right with regards to ALL SIN being a SETTLED MATTER for mankind at the cross.
Limited atonement was NEVER taught by any early church until Calvin came along.
There are many holes in Calvin doctrine on this particular matter. Calvin's form of limited atonement FORCES a RE-WRITE of many many scriptures pertaining to ALL and THE WORLD that DO NOT EXIST in the text, but are FABRICATIONS to make the DOCTRINE fit.
These WORD OF GOD FABRICATIONS are demonstrated nearly every day here by several of the proponents where they INSERT [types] of ALL MEN and the [sheep] WORLD.
These are BLATANT fouls and IMAGINATIONS that MEN MADE UP and PUT THEM from their OWN MINDS when they are FACTUALLY non-existent in GODS WORDS.
To me, that is A SIN itself, and evidence of TOTAL DEPRAVITY.
Deuteronomy 12:32
What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
The GOSPEL was COMMANDED to be carried, preached, DECLARED and delivered to the WHOLE WORLD.
GODS WORD calls ALL MANKIND to be HIS SHEEP.
There are MANY who will not hear, and THAT TOO is GODS CALL to the working of RESISTANCE that is NOT THE MAN called.
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
These WORDS are also CLEAR EVIDENCE that it is NOT JUST MAN ALONE making decisions. The 'god of this world' the 'prince of the power of the air, the SPIRIT OF DISOBEDIENCE that, READ THIS PLEASE---> IS NOT MAN is also involved.
IF God ELECTS He WILL NOT REMOVE that DISOBEDIENT SPIRIT so that a man CAN believe.
Such MEN remain PAWNS and SLAVES of the DEVIL. It is NOT MANS decision to have THAT SPIRIT OF DISOBEDIENCE removed from them.
THAT SPIRIT will NOT listen and WILL NOT obey the Gospel, but FIGHTS and RESISTS it.
You who ARE called and ELECT 'should' KNOW these things and these matters and LOVE your neighbors OUT from UNDER that SPIRIT with the SPIRIT OF GOD upon you.
That is YOUR CALL and OBLIGATION as a BELIEVER and a DISCIPLE.
IF you blame THE MAN for the SPIRIT OF DISOBEDIENCE upon him, you are in fact partially BLIND still, yourself. You are partially SIGHTED for yourSELF, but BLIND to the FACTS of the UNbelievers. God is NOT going to DAMN you to hell for such partial BLINDNESS, but you really should know what is going on with UNbelievers, and rather than CONDEMN the man for his 'freewill' you should PRAY against THAT SPIRIT OF DISOBEDIENCE and ASK GOD for ALL PEOPLE that you DECLARE the GOSPEL too in the HOPE that He will HEED YOUR PRAYER for them and REMOVE THAT DISOBEDIENT SPIRIT.
The Gospel becomes MUCH more interesting when YOU know these things as THAT DISOBEDIENT SPIRIT will show itself to you and to the BLIND MAN when IT is confronted with GODS LOVE, MERCY and FORGIVENESS.
HEAP THESE THINGS upon your NEIGHBORS. Pour it out by the BUCKET LOADS from your BELLY. That is GODS SPIRIT FULLY operating IN YOU.
The TIME for christian SECTARINISM has PAST.
It is time to MOVE ON to THE END of these matters.
Those who HEED THE CALL above will be ABUNDANTLY BLESSED. Those who seek SECTARIANISM will be CUT OFF by GOD HIMSELF. God can, does AND WILL put the SPIRIT OF DISOBEDIENCE back UPON YOUR MIND if you do not HEAR. Your PRAYERS will NOT be answered. You will be a BLIND slave to 'sectarianism.'
This is where THE CHURCHES have FALLEN. You should NOT be proud of SECTARIANISMs for yourselves nor should you PROMOTE it.
Romans 11:
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
You have been given A VERY GREAT GIFT from our MAKER.
That GIFT IS HIS LOVE toward you and toward ALL.
If you have NOT figured out yet that the GOSPEL COMMANDS you to LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORS AS YOURSELF....
You are now and will continue IN BLINDNESS, even while you THINK you are walking in the light of happy days for yourself.
Severity and CUTTING OFF is going to SWEEP the houses CLEAN.
enjoy!
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Limited atonement was NEVER taught by any early church until Calvin came along.
There are many holes in Calvin doctrine on this particular matter. Calvin's form of limited atonement FORCES a RE-WRITE of many many scriptures pertaining to ALL and THE WORLD that DO NOT EXIST in the text, but are FABRICATIONS to make the DOCTRINE fit.
These WORD OF GOD FABRICATIONS are demonstrated nearly every day here by several of the proponents where they INSERT [types] of ALL MEN and the [sheep] WORLD.
These are BLATANT fouls and IMAGINATIONS that MEN MADE UP and PUT THEM from their OWN MINDS when they are FACTUALLY non-existent in GODS WORDS.
To me, that is A SIN itself, and evidence of TOTAL DEPRAVITY.
Deuteronomy 12:32
What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
The GOSPEL was COMMANDED to be carried, preached, DECLARED and delivered to the WHOLE WORLD.
GODS WORD calls ALL MANKIND to be HIS SHEEP.
There are MANY who will not hear, and THAT TOO is GODS CALL to the working of RESISTANCE that is NOT THE MAN called.
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
These WORDS are also CLEAR EVIDENCE that it is NOT JUST MAN ALONE making decisions. The 'god of this world' the 'prince of the power of the air, the SPIRIT OF DISOBEDIENCE that, READ THIS PLEASE---> IS NOT MAN is also involved.
IF God ELECTS He WILL NOT REMOVE that DISOBEDIENT SPIRIT so that a man CAN believe.
Such MEN remain PAWNS and SLAVES of the DEVIL. It is NOT MANS decision to have THAT SPIRIT OF DISOBEDIENCE removed from them.
THAT SPIRIT will NOT listen and WILL NOT obey the Gospel, but FIGHTS and RESISTS it.
You who ARE called and ELECT 'should' KNOW these things and these matters and LOVE your neighbors OUT from UNDER that SPIRIT with the SPIRIT OF GOD upon you.
That is YOUR CALL and OBLIGATION as a BELIEVER and a DISCIPLE.
IF you blame THE MAN for the SPIRIT OF DISOBEDIENCE upon him, you are in fact partially BLIND still, yourself. You are partially SIGHTED for yourSELF, but BLIND to the FACTS of the UNbelievers. God is NOT going to DAMN you to hell for such partial BLINDNESS, but you really should know what is going on with UNbelievers, and rather than CONDEMN the man for his 'freewill' you should PRAY against THAT SPIRIT OF DISOBEDIENCE and ASK GOD for ALL PEOPLE that you DECLARE the GOSPEL too in the HOPE that He will HEED YOUR PRAYER for them and REMOVE THAT DISOBEDIENT SPIRIT.
The Gospel becomes MUCH more interesting when YOU know these things as THAT DISOBEDIENT SPIRIT will show itself to you and to the BLIND MAN when IT is confronted with GODS LOVE, MERCY and FORGIVENESS.
HEAP THESE THINGS upon your NEIGHBORS. Pour it out by the BUCKET LOADS from your BELLY. That is GODS SPIRIT FULLY operating IN YOU.
The TIME for christian SECTARINISM has PAST.
It is time to MOVE ON to THE END of these matters.
Those who HEED THE CALL above will be ABUNDANTLY BLESSED. Those who seek SECTARIANISM will be CUT OFF by GOD HIMSELF. God can, does AND WILL put the SPIRIT OF DISOBEDIENCE back UPON YOUR MIND if you do not HEAR. Your PRAYERS will NOT be answered. You will be a BLIND slave to 'sectarianism.'
This is where THE CHURCHES have FALLEN. You should NOT be proud of SECTARIANISMs for yourselves nor should you PROMOTE it.
Romans 11:
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
You have been given A VERY GREAT GIFT from our MAKER.
That GIFT IS HIS LOVE toward you and toward ALL.
If you have NOT figured out yet that the GOSPEL COMMANDS you to LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORS AS YOURSELF....
You are now and will continue IN BLINDNESS, even while you THINK you are walking in the light of happy days for yourself.
Severity and CUTTING OFF is going to SWEEP the houses CLEAN.
enjoy!
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