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Nature of truth!

The doctrines of Jesus Christ are infused with the virtues of Jesus Christ and empowered the gifts of the Spirit!

The doctrines of demons are infused with the vices of demons especially pride, spiritual pride, presumption, and arrogance!

Seven Gifts of the spirit:

Wisdom, Counsel, Spiritual knowledge, Piety, Fear of the Lord:
Understanding, Fortitude:

Virtues of Jesus Christ:

Faith, hope, and charity: 1 cor 13:13

Humility

Humility is truth! Any exaggeration either way, to belittle or to self-aggrandize is a violation of the virtue of humility.

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. Lk 1:48 lowliness of His handmaid

Prudence, justice, fortitude, temperance:

Moderation, obedience, courage,
Generosity, meekness, honesty, modesty, patience:


Truth is from God!
Truth is immutable!

The church founded and established by Christ is eternal and
ir-reformable!

Both are from God who is the same yesterday, today, and forever!

Lk 1:32-33 His kingdom shall have no end!

Matt 16:18-19 shall not prevail!

Jn 21:23 same mission, power, and authority as Christ!

The church is built only by Christ on His apostles! Matt 16:18 eph 2:20

What authority did the so called reformers have?

Christ and His church are one!
How can you reject the church established by Christ or the revelation of Christ as taught by His one true church and not reject Christ? Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 Jn 15:5 eph 5:24 eph 5:32

2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

It is unlawful to refuse to accept a truth revealed by God!

Matt 28:19 eph 4:5 Jude 1:3

We have no authority to decide faith, doctrine or truth for ourselves by any means including scripture study!

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 15:1-5)

The evidence of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ & His holy church! Jn 15:1-5 Rom 16:26

The rule of faith for Christians is Jesus Christ Jn 14:6 and His church! Matt 18:17 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

True Christians cannot listen to the errors of excommunicated heretics, but we listen faithfully to Christ, in the bosom of holy mother church, the only ark of salvation!
1 pet 3:20-21 matt 18:17 matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19-20 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-23

2 Thessalonians 1:8
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:






Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:31 Jn 15:1-5)

Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14

This Apostolic Church never turned from the way of truth nor held any kind of error. It is imperative that nothing of the truths which have been defined be lessened, nothing altered, nothing added, but that they be preserved intact in word and meaning. This is the true rule of faith. Pope Agatho

God does not reveal His truth in a vacuum!

God does not set His true adrift on a sea of spiritual anarchy!

God sets His truth in His church, in the possession of His apostles to safeguard, to ensure it is not added to, or taken away from, or changed in any way!

And to teach the same truth to all nations and all ages!

Verified by scripture:

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost!

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints!

2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness!
(all scripture not 66 books alone)

Must be instructed in the faith:

Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations…

Jn 29:21-23 as the father sent me, so I send you. (Same mission, power, and authority to teach all nations)

Lk 10:16 He who hears you, (His apostles) hear me.

Jn 13:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Jn 8:32 You (the apostles) shall know the truth; and the truth shall make you free.

Jn 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
(His apostles)


The whole purpose for the church of Jesus Christ is to teach all nations the truths revealed by Christ, with the sanctification and the salvation of souls! Matt 28:19
 
Christians must be instructed in the complete and true faith of Jesus Christ!

Truth must be revealed by God, and in its fullness in the sacred deposit of faith by Christ to his church! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3 and must be taught by the church, truths revealed by Christ and the faith must be proposed for our belief by the church of the apostles! Matt 28:19-20 Lk 1:4 Jn 20:21 acts 8:31 Rom 1:5 col 2:7 1 Tim 3:15 matt 18:17

Christ and His church are one! acts 9:4 Acts 5:32 Jn 15:1-5
 
The church of God is purchased by Jesus Christ with His own blood.


Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.



The Spirit is in the blood, and the Spirit bears witness, because the Spirit is truth. ( the blood of Jesus Christ,we thirst for the water He gives.)


John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.




The nature of truth is the testimony that Christ gave, whose blood speaks better things that that of ( even) Abel.



Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.




No person has better things to speak than Jesus Christ, the mediator of the new covenant, they only show they have very little to say,
 
Nature of truth!

The doctrines of Jesus Christ are infused with the virtues of Jesus Christ and empowered the gifts of the Spirit!

The doctrines of demons are infused with the vices of demons especially pride, spiritual pride, presumption, and arrogance!

Seven Gifts of the spirit:

Wisdom, Counsel, Spiritual knowledge, Piety, Fear of the Lord:
Understanding, Fortitude:

Virtues of Jesus Christ:

Faith, hope, and charity: 1 cor 13:13

Humility

Humility is truth! Any exaggeration either way, to belittle or to self-aggrandize is a violation of the virtue of humility.

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. Lk 1:48 lowliness of His handmaid

Prudence, justice, fortitude, temperance:

Moderation, obedience, courage,
Generosity, meekness, honesty, modesty, patience:


Truth is from God!
Truth is immutable!

The church founded and established by Christ is eternal and
ir-reformable!

Both are from God who is the same yesterday, today, and forever!

Lk 1:32-33 His kingdom shall have no end!

Matt 16:18-19 shall not prevail!

Jn 21:23 same mission, power, and authority as Christ!

The church is built only by Christ on His apostles! Matt 16:18 eph 2:20

What authority did the so called reformers have?

Christ and His church are one!
How can you reject the church established by Christ or the revelation of Christ as taught by His one true church and not reject Christ? Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 Jn 15:5 eph 5:24 eph 5:32

2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

It is unlawful to refuse to accept a truth revealed by God!

Matt 28:19 eph 4:5 Jude 1:3

We have no authority to decide faith, doctrine or truth for ourselves by any means including scripture study!

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 15:1-5)

The evidence of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ & His holy church! Jn 15:1-5 Rom 16:26

The rule of faith for Christians is Jesus Christ Jn 14:6 and His church! Matt 18:17 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

True Christians cannot listen to the errors of excommunicated heretics, but we listen faithfully to Christ, in the bosom of holy mother church, the only ark of salvation!
1 pet 3:20-21 matt 18:17 matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19-20 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-23

2 Thessalonians 1:8
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:






Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:31 Jn 15:1-5)

Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14

This Apostolic Church never turned from the way of truth nor held any kind of error. It is imperative that nothing of the truths which have been defined be lessened, nothing altered, nothing added, but that they be preserved intact in word and meaning. This is the true rule of faith. Pope Agatho

God does not reveal His truth in a vacuum!

God does not set His true adrift on a sea of spiritual anarchy!

God sets His truth in His church, in the possession of His apostles to safeguard, to ensure it is not added to, or taken away from, or changed in any way!

And to teach the same truth to all nations and all ages!

Verified by scripture:

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost!

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints!

2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness!
(all scripture not 66 books alone)

Must be instructed in the faith:

Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations…

Jn 29:21-23 as the father sent me, so I send you. (Same mission, power, and authority to teach all nations)

Lk 10:16 He who hears you, (His apostles) hear me.

Jn 13:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Jn 8:32 You (the apostles) shall know the truth; and the truth shall make you free.

Jn 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
(His apostles)


The whole purpose for the church of Jesus Christ is to teach all nations the truths revealed by Christ, with the sanctification and the salvation of souls! Matt 28:19
Jesus said to Jehovah that His word was truth sir. I agree with Jesus.

But like Pilate asked Jesus I must ask you, what is truth?

Do you believe Jehovah is God?
Do you believe Jesus is His son?
Do you believe there is one faith?
Do you believe the Bible identifies that faith?
Do you believe life eternal will happen?

God's word the Bible speaks about all those things Don.
 
The church of God is purchased by Jesus Christ with His own blood.


Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.



The Spirit is in the blood, and the Spirit bears witness, because the Spirit is truth. ( the blood of Jesus Christ,we thirst for the water He gives.)


John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.




The nature of truth is the testimony that Christ gave, whose blood speaks better things that that of ( even) Abel.



Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.




No person has better things to speak than Jesus Christ, the mediator of the new covenant, they only show they have very little to say,
True, true, of course true!
(Fiddler on the roof)

And this extends to the church? Right?
 
Jesus said to Jehovah that His word was truth sir. I agree with Jesus.

But like Pilate asked Jesus I must ask you, what is truth?

Do you believe Jehovah is God?
Do you believe Jesus is His son?
Do you believe there is one faith?
Do you believe the Bible identifies that faith?
Do you believe life eternal will happen?

God's word the Bible speaks about all those things Don.
Yes and amen!

I don’t have a problem with faith, Christ, grace, scripture (73) or giving glory to God
I have a problem when you put the word “alone” “sole” and “sola” after each of these

Then you make silly claims like “it is faith alone, but that faith is not alone” therefore please stop saying “faith alone”! Faith yes and good faith alone? Forget it
Scripture opposes all these so-called solas
Thanks
 
Yes and amen!

I don’t have a problem with faith, Christ, grace, scripture (73) or giving glory to God
I have a problem when you put the word “alone” “sole” and “sola” after each of these

Then you make silly claims like “it is faith alone, but that faith is not alone” therefore please stop saying “faith alone”! Faith yes and good faith alone? Forget it
Scripture opposes all these so-called solas
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The beauty of black and white sir, would you be so kind as to post the example you are referring to. Thank you Donald.
 
The beauty of black and white sir, would you be so kind as to post the example you are referring to. Thank you Donald.
I did such as “Bible alone”
And they say why oppose the Bible?
I don’t oppose the Bible I oppose the doctrine of “the Bible alone”
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I did such as “Bible alone”
And they say why oppose the Bible?
I don’t oppose the Bible I oppose the doctrine of “the Bible alone”
Thanks
As do I sir, there has to be a reason Jesus assigned the faithful slave, and sent disciples to teach. The Bible is God's word and has the final say to Christians, but the understanding of it comes through those whom Jesus sent, and has continued down to our day.
 
As do I sir, there has to be a reason Jesus assigned the faithful slave, and sent disciples to teach. The Bible is God's word and has the final say to Christians, but the understanding of it comes through those whom Jesus sent, and has continued down to our day.
Only apostles have “authority” to teach
 
Guess nobody is teaching then Don, as there have been no apostles since the first century.
Not according to Christ and scripture?
Matt 28:19-20 Jesus said to his apostles “behold I am with you till the end”
Acts 1:8 “my witnesses to the ends of the earth”
So there must still be apostles till Christ returns in glory
And this requires “apostolic succession” acts 1:15-26
Thanks
 
Not according to Christ and scripture?
Matt 28:19-20 Jesus said to his apostles “behold I am with you till the end”
Acts 1:8 “my witnesses to the ends of the earth”
So there must still be apostles till Christ returns in glory
And this requires “apostolic succession” acts 1:15-26
Thanks
Matt 28:19-20 Jesus said to his apostles “behold I am with you till the end”
Correction sir, you are quite correct the apostles were there, however most were his disciples, we believe there were upwards of 500 present when he left the earth. (Opinion)
(Matthew 28:16-20) . . .However, the 11 disciples went to Galʹi·lee to the mountain where Jesus had arranged for them to meet. 17 When they saw him, they did obeisance, but some doubted. 18 Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. . . .
(1 Corinthians 15:6) 6 After that he appeared to upward of five hundred brothers at one time, the most of whom remain to the present,. . .

At any rate they were to make disciples, not apostles. I do agree with you however that in the strictest sense of it's meaning, all Christians are "sent forth". But the Biblical term was only applied to the original 12; Judas was replaced by Matthias; and Paul was selected by Jesus and the last recorded apostle, 14 in all.

I will openly admit Don, you may very well be correct, I simply do not know. I do know however that though there were thousands of disciples, Paul and Matthias was the only one who was called an apostle after Jesus, but Paul was not named among the 12. The selection of Matthias seems to indicate that it was necessary to have the 12 to fulfill prophecy:
(Acts 1:16-26) . . .“Men, brothers, it was necessary for the scripture to be fulfilled that the holy spirit spoke prophetically through David about Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus. 17 For he had been numbered among us and he obtained a share in this ministry. . . .21 It is therefore necessary that of the men who accompanied us during all the time in which the Lord Jesus carried on his activities among us, 22 starting with his baptism by John until the day he was taken up from us, one of these men should become a witness with us of his resurrection.” 23 So they proposed two, Joseph called Barʹsab·bas, who was also called Justus, and Mat·thiʹas. 24 Then they prayed and said: “You, O Jehovah, who know the hearts of all, designate which one of these two men you have chosen 25 to take the place of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas deviated to go to his own place.” 26 So they cast lots over them, and the lot fell to Mat·thiʹas, and he was counted along with the 11 apostles.

I guess we will have to let time answer it for sure Don.
 
Did you forget the question mark?
Or were you making a statement?

Cannot pastors/bishops and deacons teach?
Dads and moms?
Of course they can.
There is a big difference between some who teaches and someone authorized to teach
All these may teach but in obedience to the authority of the apostles
Thanks

Also a big difference between the ministerial priesthood and the priesthood of the people
 
There is a big difference between some who teaches and someone authorized to teach
All these may teach but in obedience to the authority of the apostles
Thanks

Also a big difference between the ministerial priesthood and the priesthood of the people
Why would anyone need authorization to teach the word of God?
Speak what you know, everywhere you go !
And who needs priests since the end of the OT?
 
Why would anyone need authorization to teach the word of God?
Speak what you know, everywhere you go !
And who needs priests since the end of the OT?
Can you be saved without a priest?
 
Why would anyone need authorization to teach the word of God?
Speak what you know, everywhere you go !
And who needs priests since the end of the OT?
Are There are no priests in the new covenant?
 
Why would anyone need authorization to teach the word of God?
Speak what you know, everywhere you go !
And who needs priests since the end of the OT?
Christ reformed the mosaic covenant into the new covenant Christian church in His own blood. Heb 9:10 so the new covenant has many similarities to the old covenant:


Nature, structure, requirements:

Both have a Temple:
Altar:
Ark of the covenant
Triple Priesthood: high priesthood, ministerial priesthood, common priesthood.
Sacrifice:
Sacraments:
Eternal flame:
Golden sensor with sweet smelling incense:

Both are the ark of salvation:

Initiation:
Mosaic: Circumcision
Christian: Faith and baptism




Doctrine of constancy or Unchangeable nature of Christ, His church, and His doctrine:

Christ promised to remain with his church Matt 28:19 acts 1:8

Biblical principle:

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

No bad fruit from the church, no evil.

The church founded by Christ is the ark of salvation:
Only the good fruit of grace and truth unto salvation:

Cannot teach error: matt 5:14 Matt 16:18-19 Matt 28:19 Lk 10:16 Jn 20:21 acts 1:8 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

The church must teach, proclaim, define the truths revealed by Christ and condemn all opposing errors!



But justice
Church two edge sword
State exicuting justice

Refuse to stop teaching error

In order to believe in a reformation you must believe in the one true church founded by Christ

Matt 28:19

Mark 16: 14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Exodus 25:9
According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.

Hebrews 8:5
Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

Christ reformed the mosaic covenant made in a pattern of the heavenly realities!

New Testament in His blood!
1 cor 11:25

Thanks
 
Why would anyone need authorization to teach the word of God?
Speak what you know, everywhere you go !
And who needs priests since the end of the OT?
Who’s gonna offer the “sacrifice of Christ”?
 

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