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The New Covenant

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brakelite2

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There is a major crisis in today's church, and it stems from a misunderstanding of what the covenants that God has made were all about. I hope to clarify a few things here. I am not a theologian, so please bear with me in that some of my terminology might be awry but I believe I have got the principles right.

Covenants and/or testaments are based on promises and agreements between two or more parties.
Our Creator and God is a God of infinite,unfailing,unwavering,uncompromising love.It always has been,and always will be that He would have His erring,sinful,proud,and unbeleiving creatures to know this love, and therefore to know Him.It has always been in His heart of hearts that He and mankind should be on the most intimate of terms, and that both parties know the joy and peace that comes from a loving relationship with each other. The entire government of God, the kingdom of heaven, and the laws by which it is governed, is based on this love.

Deut. 7:7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

Isa 63:7 ¶ I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the LORD, and the praises of the LORD, according to all that the LORD hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.
8 For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour.
9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.

See also 1John 4:7-21; 5:1-4.

That is why, when Adam sinned, God still sought him out. (Gen3:9) And love was the motivating factor behind God's promise that the damage to the relationship caused by sin would ultimately be undone that the power of Satan and sin over our lives would be undone:and the power of death would be overcome. How was God to accomplish all this while at the same time honouring justice, love, and mercy? Through Jesus Christ. The plan for our redemption was not an afterthought, a plan formulated afetr the fall of Adam. It was a 'revelation of the mystery kept secret through times eternal' (Rom16:25 RV )Forseeing the apostacy of Satan and his deception of Adam and Eve causing their downfall, God had already prepared to meet the crisis. So great was His love for the world that He covenanted to 'give His only begotten Son that whosoever should beleiveth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life."(Jn 3:16)
This covenant was to be shown in types and symbols.They were a 'lesson book'for the people of Israel. (Gal.3:24,25), and from them the people would learn (or should have learnt), three vital lessons.
1. Sin results in death,for remission is only possible through the shedding of blood.
Heb 10:[1 ¶ For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

2. The constant shedding of innocent blood was to teach an abhorrence and hatred for sin, and thus encourage the people to turn away from it.
Isa 1:[11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
16 ¶ Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.


3. The symbols and prophecies pointed to a coming Saviour.
Gen 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

Re 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

And so how were these promises, this covenant, to be appropriated personally? By faith.(Heb 11). Was Israel at any time justified or saved by works of the law? No. A big error they made however was to trust in the works of the law rather than in the grace and mercy of God.
Rom 10:1 ¶ Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Habb 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.

What then, does all this mean for us? God's love has not changed, nor His purpose in undoing the works of Satan.(1 Jn 3:8). Therefore it is the method by whichj He is to fulfil His purpose that has changed. Why? Because the old covenant was based on faulty promises. God's promises? Surely not, no., but rather the peoples promises.
Heb 8:6 ¶ But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

They had misjudged the part they were to play in the covenant. In Ex. 19:5,6 God promised (again) to make of Israel a mighty nation and a holy people, an d they answered 'all that the Lord hath spoken we will do.'(vs 8). Unfortunately, they had little idea of what they promised. God said He
would perform and establish His covenant: they people promised they would perform His covenant. Thus God made a new covenant based on better promises.
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
See also Rom 10: 1-10

therefore today, as always, the just shall live by faith.(Rom 1:117 Heb 10:38)

The old covenant, the old method by which God was to save His people and establish righteousness and obedience to His commandments was through the Mosaic law. Circumcision, sacrifices and burnt offerings, the annual sabbaths and services of the tabernacle etc. (Heb 9:1-7). The new covenant is still by faith not in a coming Saviour which the services and annual sabbaths pointed to, but in a risen Saviour, who writes His holy moral law in our hearts and minds.(2 Cor 3:3)
Thus through Jesus, Satan is conqured and his power over us broken. Jesus gives us the new birth experience and the power to overcome sin.( 1Jn 3:9 2 Peter 1:3,4). He dies in our place, and we, by faith, die in Him. (Rom 6:1-7). And the result is what Adam and Eve had in Eden before the fall: a loving relationship with God.

Note carefully that the law did not change. Only it's address. The law was the substance of the old covenant, and it remains the substance of the new.
The law was not the old covenant. The law was not faulty.
It is not the law that needed to be changed. It is us. It is us, who are at first rebellious and sinful and disobedient to the law, who need to be changed to loyal, sinless and obedient doers of the law.

OBEDIENCE IS NOT LEGALISM. OBEDIENCE IS A LOVING RESPONSE TO HIM WHO SAID "IF YOU LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS"
 
Indeed "IF you love me Keep My Commandments " John 14:15 a pre-cross reality in the "ONE Gospel" (Gal 1:6-11 there is only ONE Gospel).

The New Covenant was fully in place -- under the OT as we see in Heb 11 the giants of faith -- some of whom did not die - but went directly to heaven - Enoch, Elijah. Were saved under the ONE Gospel - saved by grace through faith.

Obedience in OT and NT - was never "salvation by works" for there is no such Gospel according to Gal 3.

in Christ,

Bob
 
It was said: "---the law did not change." "The law was not faulty." "It was not the law that needed to be changed." However Heb.7:12; 7:19 and 10:1 seem to teach otherwise.
 
brakelite2 said:
There is a major crisis in today's church, and it stems from a misunderstanding of what the covenants that God has made were all about....

.....OBEDIENCE IS NOT LEGALISM. OBEDIENCE IS A LOVING RESPONSE TO HIM WHO SAID "IF YOU LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS"

Interesting post brakelite2. I agree that God's covenant blessings involve a changed heart. The changed heart is the the work of God. Man can no more change his heart then a leapord can change his spots.

I furthermore agree that the changed heart of man results in obedience to the law of God. in fact Jeremiah 31:33 specificly says...

33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith Jehovah: I will put my law in their inward parts, and in their heart will I write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people:

Thus any obedience on our part is the result of God changing our nature. In New Testament terminology we are a "new creation" (2 Cor 5). We have the "new man" (colossians 3 and Ephesians 4).

In Romans 6, the old man dies with Christ. Paul says how we should then manifest that righteousness. (The term "old man" occurs in 6:6 and is the basis for an appeal for righteousness in that context.)

The person who is "in Christ" will live in a different way. Salvation always has its fruits. If there is no fruit, there never was any salvation in the first place.
 
duval said:
It was said: "---the law did not change." "The law was not faulty." "It was not the law that needed to be changed." However Heb.7:12; 7:19 and 10:1 seem to teach otherwise.
Ahhhh, now there's the rub!
Paul says in Coll 2:14 "blotting out the handwriting of ordinances...nailing it to His cross."
Yet he says in chapter 3:5-9 that we sjhould not commit fornication, lie etc ; all offences against the law!

In Romans 7 he says the law is holy and the commandments holy just and good. Yet elsewhere he says changes needed to be made to it!!!????

Clearly then, Paul is discussing different laws! It is for us to correctly understand which law was nailed to the cross, and which law is still binding.
 
Paul says in Coll 2:14 "blotting out the handwriting of ordinances...nailing it to His cross."
Ahh, brakelite2, that verse makes for an interesting study. Of course the question, what was actually nailed to the Cross, comes up ... and is answered. Have you ever researched the historical meaning of that verse?
 
Col 2:14 Our "Certificate of DEBT" was nailed to the cross. The ticket -- the "fine" for violation of the Law of God. Forgiveness as we see in Col 2 is not accomplished by deleting the Law -- it is accomplished by paying the debt required -- nailing the certificate of debt to the cross. Which of course - upholds the law whose penalty is honored rather than ignored.

NASB - Col 2
13 When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,

14 having [b]canceled out the certificate of debt[/b] consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. (NASB)

That is why in 1Cor 7:20 Paul can still say "but what matters is keeping the commandments of God".

And why he says in Rom 3:31 "Do we then make void the law of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we ESTABLISH the Law of God".

in Christ,

Bob
 
duval said:
It was said: "---the law did not change." "The law was not faulty." "It was not the law that needed to be changed." However Heb.7:12; 7:19 and 10:1 seem to teach otherwise.

In Gal 3 the point is made that NO law was ever given that could forgive sins. In Heb 10 the argument is made that the OT saints got no forgiveness at all from the blood of goats because animal blood does not forgive - it does not "pay the debt owed" only the blood of Christ does that -- so when you see all those OT giants of faith in Heb 11 fully accepted by God... when you see Moses and Elijah WITH Christ in Matt 17 fully accepted by God ... when you see Enoch in Gen 5 and Heb 11 taken to heaven to be with God -- without dying.. ALL of that was accomplished by the blood of Christ -- not by "animal blood".

For as God says in Romans 4 "He calls those things that are not as though they were" -- God is not bound by the "sequence of time".

In Heb 7 we see a change of law "regarding the priesthood" pointing to the fact that the OT law of priests - of types was simply a symbol - an innacted promise - a visual aid pointing the worshipper to their true high Priest - the Messiah and to the true lamb of God -- the coming Messiah. Those symbols ended when type met antitype.

In Heb 10:4-11 we also see that "he put a stop to sacrifice and offering" by his ONCE for ALL sacrifice. Fulfilled in Heb 10 just as Daniel 9 predicted regarding the Messiah.

in Christ,

Bob
 
mondar said:
Interesting post brakelite2. I agree that God's covenant blessings involve a changed heart. The changed heart is the the work of God. Man can no more change his heart then a leapord can change his spots.

I furthermore agree that the changed heart of man results in obedience to the law of God. in fact Jeremiah 31:33 specificly says...

33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith Jehovah: I will put my law in their inward parts, and in their heart will I write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people:

Thus any obedience on our part is the result of God changing our nature.

Indeed it is the ONE Gospel -- the "Good news" brought to us through the work of Christ for us.


In New Testament terminology we are a "new creation" (2 Cor 5). We have the "new man" (colossians 3 and Ephesians 4).

Notice that Christ makes this same argument to Nicodemus PRE-Cross "you must be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven". Also notice that Nicodemus pretends to be ignorant of this and Christ says "are you really a teacher of scripture in Israel and yet you pretend not to know this?" --

In Ps 51 David prays for that "New Heart" and we are told that Samuel predicted that Saul would receive "A new heart". So it is no surprise to find that the NEW covenant is first given in the OT and merely "quoted" in the NT.


in Christ,

Bob
 
BobRyan said:
Col 2:14 Our "Certificate of DEBT" was nailed to the cross. The ticket -- the "fine" for violation of the Law of God. Forgiveness as we see in Col 2 is not accomplished by deleting the Law -- it is accomplished by paying the debt required -- nailing the certificate of debt to the cross. Which of course - upholds the law whose penalty is honored rather than ignored.
Yes, that is where I was leading. Paul is borrowing a legal term from his time. It wasn't our sins or the Law that was nailed to the Cross; it was the penalty, the indictment for violating the Law that was paid in full for our transgressions.

"blotting out the handwriting of ordinances." An ordinance is also known as a dogma; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical) or a decree. The "handwriting" is a legal bond or a document known as a manuscript.

Blotting out is obvious.

The legal bond for violating an ordinance was blotted out, expunged, bail that we are incapable of paying back, but paid for us nonetheless. It says a lot about what really happened at The Cross... and says something about this New Covenant also.

:angel:
 
brakelite2 said:
Covenants and/or testaments are based on promises and agreements between two or more parties.

This is an interesting concept brakelite. Please don't take offense, but I see the covenants of God in a different light.

Your explanation makes it sound like an exchange of goods between man and God. We give Him our sins and He takes our punishment. Instead, I see our covenant with God as more of a family covenant, where instead of goods or items being exchanged, we surrender our entire selves to Him. He becomes our Father and we become His children, with Jesus as the firstborn of the family.

God's relationships with man started as a small family, (Adam), grew into a larger family with Noah, grew even more as tribes with Abraham and grew into a nation with Moses. It became a worldwide family with Jesus. But the relationship has always been: "You will be my people and I will be your God."

Jesus repaired the broken family unit and brought us back into the state God originally intended for us when He created Adam and Eve. We'll walk with Him and eat from the Tree of Life. What started in Genesis is completed in Revelation.

This is just my $.02.
 
Heb.10:4 says the blood of animals could not take away sins, yet with out the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin, Heb.9:22. Notice please that Heb.9 contrasts the high priest of Israel with Jesus Who is now our high priest. As the Jewish high priest had to enter the Holy of Holies with the blood of animans ( AFTER BEING SACRIFICED ) that Israel's sins might be REMEMBERED, not forgiven, So Jesus after His sacrifice on the cross entered heaven ( our Holy of Holies ) with His blood for us. Heb.10:18 says where remission of sins is there is no more offering for sin. Note please the time line in all this. People continued to offer animal blood up to the death of Christ, sin could not in all reality be forgiven until Jesus shed His blood. Thats why we read in Heb.11:39,40 that those O.T. saints "received not the promise--" Their actual remission of sins had to await the shedding of the precious blood of Jesus. Thats why we read in Heb.:15 "for this cause He is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressons that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance." From there the Hebrew writer tells WHEN a testament is of force- - - "after men are dead- - - otherwise it is of no strength AT LL (caps mine, Duval). The above chapter reference is 9.
With all gratitude.
 
vic C. said:
Paul says in Coll 2:14 "blotting out the handwriting of ordinances...nailing it to His cross."
Ahh, brakelite2, that verse makes for an interesting study. Of course the question, what was actually nailed to the Cross, comes up ... and is answered. Have you ever researched the historical meaning of that verse?
Whilst I agree with the view expressed later by yourself that our debt was expunged through the cross (And that could be a study on it's own), I tend to take a slightly different view of Coll 2:14.
In the context of the rest of the chapter Paul is warning the Colossians of being led into error.(Verse 4) The problem is the same as in all the other churches, that is, that the unconverted Jews not beguile them into reverting back to believing in the necessity of circumcision ,observation of feasts etc. All these things are contained in the law of Moses. This was the ceremonial law which was a shadow of Christ, as he points out later in verse 17.
Hebrews !0:1 ¶ For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.prescribing the sacrifices, festivals, and ceremonial ordinances that were symbolic of Jesus.
13 ¶ And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

In the same passage Paul says...
16 ¶ Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


He says in Romans that Christ was the end, the goal, or the aim of the law of Moses.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.


This law of Moses , handwritten ordinances, must be distinguished from the law of God. The tables of stone that God wrote with His own finger were enshrined within the ark. The law of Moses, written by Moses own hand, was on parchment and placed on the side of the ark.
So the Law of God is eternal, but the law of Moses was just temporary.
 
george08046 said:
brakelite2 said:
Covenants and/or testaments are based on promises and agreements between two or more parties.

This is an interesting concept brakelite. Please don't take offense, but I see the covenants of God in a different light.

Your explanation makes it sound like an exchange of goods between man and God. We give Him our sins and He takes our punishment. Instead, I see our covenant with God as more of a family covenant, where instead of goods or items being exchanged, we surrender our entire selves to Him. He becomes our Father and we become His children, with Jesus as the firstborn of the family.

God's relationships with man started as a small family, (Adam), grew into a larger family with Noah, grew even more as tribes with Abraham and grew into a nation with Moses. It became a worldwide family with Jesus. But the relationship has always been: "You will be my people and I will be your God."

Jesus repaired the broken family unit and brought us back into the state God originally intended for us when He created Adam and Eve. We'll walk with Him and eat from the Tree of Life. What started in Genesis is completed in Revelation.

This is just my $.02.
No, that aspect of covenant (the exchange of goods) was far from my mind. The covenannt that God requires of us is obedience. He promises to take us to the promised land, on condition that we obey.
Israel made the mistake of believing that it was in their power to obey. They went about establishing their own righteousness rather than submitting to the righteousness that comes by faith.
This is a lesson for all of us. We cannot obey in our own strength, but obedience is still necessary.We are flesh, so keeping the commandments is for us impossible, outside of Christ. So we must find an alternative source of power. Jesus. Then obedience to His law becomes possible.
The law of Moses was nullified. But the law of God was lifted up. It was the law of Moses that needed to change to accomodate the new priesthood (not of Levi) but the ten commandment law of God, did not nor ever will be changed or altered.
Not the first commandment, nor the second, the tenth, nor the fourth!
 
vic C. said:
BobRyan said:
Col 2:14 Our "Certificate of DEBT" was nailed to the cross. The ticket -- the "fine" for violation of the Law of God. Forgiveness as we see in Col 2 is not accomplished by deleting the Law -- it is accomplished by paying the debt required -- nailing the certificate of debt to the cross. Which of course - upholds the law whose penalty is honored rather than ignored.
Yes, that is where I was leading. Paul is borrowing a legal term from his time. It wasn't our sins or the Law that was nailed to the Cross; it was the penalty, the indictment for violating the Law that was paid in full for our transgressions.

"blotting out the handwriting of ordinances." An ordinance is also known as a dogma; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical) or a decree. The "handwriting" is a legal bond or a document known as a manuscript.

Blotting out is obvious.

The legal bond for violating an ordinance was blotted out, expunged, bail that we are incapable of paying back, but paid for us nonetheless. It says a lot about what really happened at The Cross... and says something about this New Covenant also.

:angel:

Yes indeed - it indicates that our sins are recorded - written and that they testify against us -- declaring that we are sinners and declaring the suffering and the 2nd death owed in the lake of fire and brimstone.

All that suffering and death Jesus took upon himself for us "to whom the stroke was due" Isaiah 53.

What an amazing act of Love at such great sacrifice.

In Christ,

Bob
 
brakelite2 said:
The law of Moses was nullified. But the law of God was lifted up.

I don't follow you -

God claims that the Law of Moses is in fact the Law of God.

And also "ALL scripture is given by inspiration from God" 2Tim 3:16.

Also 2Peter 1 makes it clear that "holy men of old moved by the Spirit spoke from God" --

It is always the Word of God - that we find in scripture unless it is an evil person merely being "quoted".

I agree that the Heb 7 statement on the priesthood indicates a change of law - regarding priests since according to the Levitcal law of priesthood - Christ would not be a priest. But I have never found a distinction in scripture where it is said "the Law of Moses is not the Law of God" as if Moses just made stuff up and added it to the Bible.

in Christ,

Bob
 
Spot on Bob.

It was the Mosaic law that was "added because of transgression" not the Ten Commandments.

Gal 3:19 Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed (Jesus) should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

The evidence of the broken laws of the Ten Commandments was found in the Mosaic law. That "evidence" was nailed to the cross.

BobRyan said:
Col 2:14 Our "Certificate of DEBT" was nailed to the cross. The ticket -- the "fine" for violation of the Law of God. Forgiveness as we see in Col 2 is not accomplished by deleting the Law -- it is accomplished by paying the debt required -- nailing the certificate of debt to the cross. Which of course - upholds the law whose penalty is honored rather than ignored.

NASB - Col 2
13 When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,

14 having [b]canceled out the certificate of debt[/b] consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. (NASB)

That is why in 1Cor 7:20 Paul can still say "but what matters is keeping the commandments of God".

And why he says in Rom 3:31 "Do we then make void the law of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we ESTABLISH the Law of God".

in Christ,

Bob
 
BobRyan said:
brakelite2 said:
The law of Moses was nullified. But the law of God was lifted up.

I don't follow you -

God claims that the Law of Moses is in fact the Law of God.

And also "ALL scripture is given by inspiration from God" 2Tim 3:16.

Also 2Peter 1 makes it clear that "holy men of old moved by the Spirit spoke from God" --

It is always the Word of God - that we find in scripture unless it is an evil person merely being "quoted".

I agree that the Heb 7 statement on the priesthood indicates a change of law - regarding priests since according to the Levitcal law of priesthood - Christ would not be a priest. But I have never found a distinction in scripture where it is said "the Law of Moses is not the Law of God" as if Moses just made stuff up and added it to the Bible.

in Christ,

Bob
Hi Bob. How did I miss this reply? Oh well, better late than never. :D I can understand what you are saying here, and I agree. It was not my intention to suggest that the laws of Moses that he wrote were anything other than God's own stipulations for obedience . My intention, (and as I said in my first post, I am no theologian so my terminology may not be entirely accurate,) was to show the difference between the the laws written by Moses upon parchment thus showing their impermanence, and those written by God's own finger upon stone thus showing their eternality.
Those handwriting of ordinances that were nailed to the cross as per Coll 2:14 I still believe to be those statutes of Moses that pertained to the sanctuary services, those annual sabbaths and feasts that were types (as you mentioned previously) of the Messiah. The reason I hold to this is that contextually Paul is talking about those ritual commandments that he feared were being reinstituted into the Christian church, and which he opposed so strongly. Circumcision etc and the dietary and laws etc he spoke of in the next verses.
This is not to say that the feast days should be forgotten. Paul himself still attended the passover feasts etc, but they were no longer obligatory , and if one chose to ignore them or keep them, one was not to allow others to judge them in those matters.
 
brakelite2,

re: “Paul himself still attended the passover feasts etc, but they were no longer obligatory...â€Â


Will at least one of the feasts be obligatory again? Zechariah 14:16 would seem to say so.
 
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