The New Covenant

[Elvispelvis]

Description: The New Covenant
Prophecy: Jeremiah 31:31-34

31 "The time is coming," declares the LORD, E Notice capital letters for LORD, in Hebrew this is always YHWH!
"when I will make a new covenant E So it is YHWH making the covenant with Israel not Yahshua
with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah. E Yahshua is the : LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH"

32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their forefathers E YHWH Speaks of the covenant He made with Abraham
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt, E For our learning we read of the children in the wilderness
because they broke my covenant, E how YHWH was a husband to Israel.
though I was a husband to them,"
declares the LORD .
33 "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time," declares the LORD . E YHWH says I will make a new covenant with Israel.
"I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God, E Notice it is a different word not YHWH but God which means Elohim
and they will be my people. E plural not singular, not YHWH or Yahshua.
34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' So back to YHWH to know Him they do not say to know God.
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,"
declares the LORD . E Notice the declaration comes from YHWH not God, YHWH for gives sins
"For I will forgive their wickedness E not God or Eloheim.
and will remember their sins no more."

LORD was decided by the translators to always stand for YHWH 6,470 times in the old testament.
God it was decided by the translators to be the Hebrew word Eloheim 2,380 times.

They took a plural Hebrew word Eloheim and made it into a Singular word God.

Why in the verse I used does it say LORD sometimes and God sometimes because they are totally different int the Hebrew.
The Bible was not written in English.
Yahshua does not speak English.

You must look up to see if they translated it properly.

May God bless your study of HIs old testament

 

[racer]

Elvis

In the timeline that I was taught --- we are not to this point in time yet.

We still have preachers out preaching in the streets so not all people yet know the Lord.

Remember Jesus is LORD of lord's and KING of King's. So maybe Lord is referenced in the Bible like we reference Doctor. I believe God, Yahweh chooses the Lord's over time.

The Kingdom of God is like a mustard seed that grows into a tree. Much like the day that we were conceived. We all start out as a seed but over time we grow.

So why if Jesus says that the Kingdom grows from a seed into a tree that the church believes that it should be kept as a seed?

We only need to look in the mirror to realize that growth happens.

 

[Elijah674]

Elvis

In the timeline that I was taught --- we are not to this point in time yet.

We still have preachers out preaching in the streets so not all people yet know the Lord.

Remember Jesus is LORD of lord's and KING of King's. So maybe Lord is referenced in the Bible like we reference Doctor. I believe God, Yahweh chooses the Lord's over time.

The Kingdom of God is like a mustard seed that grows into a tree. Much like the day that we were conceived. We all start out as a seed but over time we grow.

So why if Jesus says that the Kingdom grows from a seed into a tree that the church believes that it should be kept as a seed?

We only need to look in the mirror to realize that growth happens.

It was not until Christ went back to heaven that there was a change [taking place] with the Eternal Covenant.The Ark in Heaven still has the 'Royal' Law of the Universe inside of it. Rev. 11:19. So the New way that God was to 'function' only changed in the POWER of the old way. (are you lost so far??)

OK: The Covenant is Eternal as in Heb. 13:20 & Rev. 14:6. So what changed?
Number one: Jehova is God, Christ before He came to be the Son of God, was Christ/God. The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost is Holy Spirit/God. They were ALL active in unitifed creation! Even Heb.'s other worlds twice stated in Heb. had no limitations applied. All of that changed as the Godhead allowed for theirselves to be put on trial in earth.

Now pay apt attention! Adam's DOMAIN was all of the Earth. Gen. 1:28. And we find that the serpent satan (of Rev. 12) was also on the earth. And we see satan in Gen. 3 calling God a liar which is even being taught for truth today that God lied & that satan has the truth.

Regardless! We see that satan won over Adams DOMAIN OF ALL OF THE EARTH when Adam sinned. In Matt. 4:9 & 10 we also understand that Christ fully understood this. And this was one reason for Christ's mission, to win back the original First domain and settle the sin question eternally! Nah. 1:9. Now we find that the Old Covenant was to only occupy a limited location and was now called the old covenant because the earth's domain was lost to satan & was now reclaimed and called New. And Moses laws also needed to be understood as temporary until the confirmation into the Most Holy Place bove..

OK: Psalms 77:13 finds Christ/God centrally located in earth. Even the Holy Spirit was always centrally located with His Striving beside Noah's preaching to the pre/flood ones. When Christ was executed, and again risen, satan was FINISHED, and the Plan of Salvation was Consumated even though Christ was not FINISHED with His Heavenly Sanctuary Hight Priestly work yet. The seperating vail when Christ died was rent from the top to the bottom by an unseen hand making the way from the Holy Place into the Most Holy Place in heaven itself. And this is the Last work to be done, THIS WAS ALSO NEW!

But take note that when Christ returned to heaven as Faithful, He sent the Holy Spirit back to earth to once again make Christ himelf OMNIPRESENT! And the Power & the work of the Holy Spirit was to [[UPLIFT CHRIST OMNIPRESENT]]. He did or does not testify of Himself, but of Christ.

Now: Get this straight! What miracle is done from the time of the New Covenant forward which was not done in the Old Covenant. All Eternity required the first birth or to be Born Again! John 3:3. (Nic... was from the O.T.) In the O.T. there was miracle after miracle worked! Yes, in just a certain location.
Yet, God required the same obedience of all of His creation.. to be saved. Including that His Eternal Covenant which is His Royal Law that has always been required to be written in ones heart! 2 John 1:5-6. 1 John 2:4-8. New?? only because the darkness is now passed!

--Elijah

 

[savedbygrace57]

The New Covenant is for the Church, by the blood of Christ..

 

[savedbygrace57]

Understanding the New Covenant



Heb 8:

6But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

7For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

If the House of Israel and House of Judah refers exclusively to the ethnic nation of Israel or ethnic jews in this passage, then explain the NT references of NC blessings that the Gentiles receive ?

Paul an apostle to the Gentiles and writing to a mostly gentile church @ corinth states :

2 Cor 3:

5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament or covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Hence God sent Paul unto the Gentiles with the New Covenant Message and Blessings..

 

[tim-from-pa]

Understanding the New Covenant



Heb 8:

6But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

7For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

If the House of Israel and House of Judah refers exclusively to the ethnic nation of Israel or ethnic jews in this passage, then explain the NT references of NC blessings that the Gentiles receive ?

Paul an apostle to the Gentiles and writing to a mostly gentile church @ corinth states :

2 Cor 3:

5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament or covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Hence God sent Paul unto the Gentiles with the New Covenant Message and Blessings..

Jeremiah 31 is talking about Israel and Judah. It does not say in that passage about other nations, and thus it is illogical to conclude from this passage alone that God would include or exclude Gentiles because he mentioned only Israel and Judah and nobody else.

However, what we CAN logically conclude is that the ethnic nations of Israel and Judah will have this new covenant because they are specifically named. That's what the passage is saying.

To give an example, if the mechanic says that your car needs new tires, but mentions nothing else, that does not mean it doesn't also need a new battery. And likewise, just because another mechanic says you need a new battery does not mean that the suggestion about needing new tires is now invalid or for that matter part of the same thing.

I think we are all intelligent enough to understand this analogy so let's not read more into (or out of) Jeremiah 31 than what it says.

 

[Hitch]

Jeremiah 31 is talking about Israel and Judah. It does not say in that passage about other nations, and thus it is illogical to conclude from this passage alone that God would include or exclude Gentiles because he mentioned only Israel and Judah and nobody else.

Fortunately we have the NT accounts and Apostolic letters.

However, what we CAN logically conclude is that the ethnic nations of Israel and Judah will have this new covenant because they are specifically named. That's what the passage is saying.

To give an example, if the mechanic says that your car needs new tires, but mentions nothing else, that does not mean it doesn't also need a new battery. And likewise, just because another mechanic says you need a new battery does not mean that the suggestion about needing new tires is now invalid or for that matter part of the same thing.

I think we are all intelligent enough to understand this analogy so let's not read more into (or out of) Jeremiah 31 than what it says.

We are not free to disregard the teachings of the NT.

 

[savedbygrace57]

tim:

Jeremiah 31 is talking about Israel and Judah.

They are types, its talking about the elect or the many that Jesus died for, shed His blood for, the blood of the New Covenant Matt 26:


28For this is my blood of the new testament[Covenant], which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

The Many here are the same as Israel and Judah in Jeremiah..

 

[savedbygrace57]

The New Covenant is the Fulfillment of the Everlasting Covenant in time..

Heb 13:

20Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

Matt 26:


28For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

In both scriptures the words for covenant and testament are the same greek word
diathēkē:

a disposition, arrangement, of any sort, which one wishes to be valid,
the last disposition which one makes of his earthly possessions after
his death, a testament or will

2) a compact, a covenant, a testament

a) God's covenant with Noah, etc.

The only difference being, the covenant in Heb 13 20 stresses the everlasting arrangement, the compact within the Godhead

The testament emphasis is on the possessions to be bestowed because of the death of the Testator in time.

Heb 9:

15And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.


16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

The New Testament in Christ Blood is an actual bequeathment of all those things that belongs to the Heirs of Promise..all these things were promised from everlasting..

 

[tim-from-pa]

tim:


The Many here are the same as Israel and Judah in Jeremiah..

No, the many are part of the same body of the new covenant promised to Israel and Judah, not part of Judah and Israel, but part of the same body of Christ shared by Judah and Israel. The mystery of the gospel was actually revealed to Paul, i.e. non-Israelite Gentiles are also heirs according to the promise of Abraham, thru Christ. It is explained by their graphing in according to Romans 11.

However, I'm starting to get the feeling that what we are saying to each other is a matter of semantics. I don't think we fundamentally disagree regarding this point.

 

[savedbygrace57]

tim:

No,

Yes they are. The Many in Matt 26:28 and the Houses of Israel and Judah in Jer 31:31..are the same..

There is only One New Covenant, and Jesus Christ is the Mediator of it, and He is the Head of the Church..

 

[tim-from-pa]

tim:



Yes they are. The Many in Matt 26:28 and the Houses of Israel and Judah in Jer 31:31..are the same..

There is only One New Covenant, and Jesus Christ is the Mediator of it, and He is the Head of the Church..

Actually, that's what I was saying when I said one body in Christ. You are looking at it from a covenantal perspective (which I agree) and I'm addressing the subject of the people addressed in Jeremiah 31. And being into lost tribes stuff, I agree that many of those called into the new covenant are, unbeknownst to themselves, also the genealogical seed of Abraham.

 

[savedbygrace57]

tim:

Actually, that's what I was saying when I said one body in Christ.

Thats why I am right, they were just types, the Lord used the split to give similarity to the jews and gentiles, but it was a type of the Israel of God, the Church of which Christ is the Head and shed His blood, the blood of the New Covenant or Testament.

You are foolish to suppose that Jesus Christ is divided in the New Covenant in His blood, part for the church and part for a ethnic people. Thats contrary to the blood Col 1:20

And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Eph 2:

14For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;


15Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

16And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

I'm addressing the subject of the people addressed in Jeremiah 31.

They were the children of Abraham being addressed, God's Covenant People, the same for whom Christ died, God's Covenant People, the seed of Abraham.

 

[savedbygrace57]

What about Jer 31:31-33 ?



Jer 31:31-33

31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

If the House of Israel and the House of Judah are not the literal physical descendants of Abraham, but His Spiritual descendants comprised of jew and gentile alike, then why are they called thusly ?

Also, it should be understood that at this time the prophecy was given by Jeremiah that the natural descendants of Abraham had been divided into two hostile groups. They had separate kings and places of worship. This was fitting for it adequately typified the enmity between the jews and gentiles, the middle wall of partition as per Eph 2:14

The first reason is that it would be made clear that the beneficiaries of the New Covenant will not be all without exception of mankind, but only God's elect or Chosen within it, The Many Matt 28:28

28For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Secondly, because during OT times most of God's election of grace were part of the physical nation of Israel.

Thirdly, because it intimated that the jewish state [kingdom] has given place to the Church [Spiritual Nation] for Christ blood taketh away the First Covenant [National] that He may establish the second [Spiritual] Heb 10:9

9Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

compare with Matt 21:43

43Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Fourthly. To show forth that the OT Believers [ Spiritual Seed of Abraham] and the NT Believers [ Spiritual seed of Abraham] are of one body, the same Church or Body of Christ merely in different epochs.

And lastly, because its not unusual to call the anti type by that which belongs to the type. For example sometime Christ is referred to as David in Prophecy Like Ezk 34:23

And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

 

[savedbygrace57]

Jer 31:31-33

How could it not be seen [save through spiritual blindness] regarding Jer 31:31-33 that these promises according to the NT scriptures are fulfilled in the NT economy through the blood of Christ. In the epistle to the Hebrews, the inspired writer [possibly paul] quotes this passage for the purpose of demonstrating that it's blessings are yea and amen in the Son of God. The writers intention would be meaningless in Heb 8 if Jeremiah's Prophecy did not find its fulfillment in the order of things established through His blood, He goes on to write : But now [not in the future] hath He [Christ the Son of God] obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much more also He is [not will be] the Mediator of a better Covenant, established upon better promises.

Heb 8:6

6But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

 

[Stormcrow]

{30} "But everyone will die for his own iniquity; each man who eats the sour grapes, his teeth will be set on edge. {31} "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, {32} not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD. {33} "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. Jeremiah 31:30-33 (NASB)

See the phrase, "after those days"? What days?

{1} "At that time," declares the LORD, "I will be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be My people." {2} Thus says the LORD, "The people who survived the sword Found grace in the wilderness— Israel, when it went to find its rest." {3} The LORD appeared to him from afar, saying, "I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore I have drawn you with lovingkindness. {4} "Again I will build you and you will be rebuilt, O virgin of Israel! Again you will take up your tambourines, And go forth to the dances of the merrymakers. Jeremiah 31:1-4 (NASB)

{3} Judah has gone into exile under affliction And under harsh servitude; She dwells among the nations, But she has found no rest; All her pursuers have overtaken her In the midst of distress. Lamentations 1:3 (NASB)

Jeremiah was a prophet to the captives in Babylon after the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple in 586 BC. The context of this chapter is clearly talking about those who "survived the sword" being restored to the land and having their city and temple rebuilt.

The language of the new covenant in Jeremiah (above) is written the way it is as a contrast to the old covenant:

{8} "You shall tell your son on that day, saying, 'It is because of what the LORD did for me when I came out of Egypt.' {9} "And it shall serve as a sign to you on your hand, and as a reminder on your forehead, that the law of the LORD may be in your mouth; for with a powerful hand the LORD brought you out of Egypt. {10} "Therefore, you shall keep this ordinance at its appointed time from year to year. Exodus 13:8-10 (NASB)

The people, the priests and the Levites were to keep this law "in their hand" and "on their forehead" as a reminder to what God did for them in bringing them out of Egypt. The new covenant would be written not on their foreheads or in their hands but on their hearts, as a reminder to them how He restored them from captivity in Babylon.

Why is this not a messianic prophecy? Because God here in Jeremiah is telling the captives that they shall be His people. When Messiah came to earth, He didn't just die for the Jews, but for all mankind. We can all be God's people since the cross.