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The Parable of the Ten Virgins

guysmith

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The Parable of the Ten Virgins

In this parable, Christ represents the bridegroom, and the virgins represent individuals which will be alive at Christ's advent. Five of these individuals (Christian) are found worthy to go into the kingdom, and five (who think they are Christian) are not. I think that most everyone will agree to this assessment.

So what do we know about this future event. According to John, the world is going to experience the Great Tribulation period in which the AC is going to require all to worship him by requiring everyone to take a mark. All who do not take the mark will be executed.

Revelation 13:15 He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Christians are forewarned not to take the mark which is a sign of worshipping the beast.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

So, the five wise virgins, as individuals which will be alive at Christ's advent, will have to survive the Great Tribulation period and will have to avoid taking the mark.

So, let's recap. This parable describes an event which takes place at Christ's advent, sometime in the future. Christ is represented by the bridegroom. Five of these individuals (Christian) are found worthy to go into the kingdom, and five (who think they are Christian) are not. The rest of Christendom has been martyred for not taking the mark of the beast.

My only question, where do you see yourself in this parable?

In Yehoshua,

Guy Smith
 
All who profess Christ believe that they are the bride, but you are correct; only half [or a division] are the bride. The key to that question of who is the bride is the answer; those who keep the commandments of God are like [a sign.] As for those who [spare/save] oil and wine; the wine is the blood of the covenant, and the oil are the anointed. Remember the Seven Thunders?
 
By the way, [Yehoshua] is not correct. The letter "E" was not used as a vowel in the Proto Semitic, and the letter "o" is do to a scribes error. The correct trans-literation into English is "Yahshua." :twocents
 
This is the way that I see it. They are [ALL SLEEPING].
Virgin denotes 'purity'. Man could be pure only 'IN' Christ. (Rom. 8:1- Acts 5:32) So we see that this purity was in the Virgin doctrinal teachings and is conditional. For man (or fold) could be in or out of Christ as they had freedom of will. The Wheat or Tare concept is not the subject seen here. We are finding the END result of James 1:15's 'Final Mature Decision being made!

Second we see that this is a 'Parable'. So it can be understood only with Christ's spiritual disclosure to us, or by His disclosure to the disciples that He has told us that He will do! Rom. 8:14 & *Mark 4:33-*34.

Then, we can also understand that this is repeated history as the Word of God emphatically tells us! (see Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15)

We will cover this Parable with this truth in mind. Remember that we are living with this knowledge in full view! and with this being a well documented Truth of Christ's Word, at our fingertips. All are required to check out His Word until we get it right! (see Matt. 4:4)

In Matt 17:16-19 we see a Virgin Fold brought to view. Verse 16 Is Christ asking Peter .. "Whom do people say that I am?" And with this we can see who the Rock of the FOLD is built upon! (not Peter as 's'atan desires one to believe) But the thought needs to be understood that if it falters completely, or if it leaves the Truth of Christ's 'Everlasting Gospel, or Everlasting Covenant, it is no longer built upon Christ the Rock! (see Rev. 14:6 & Heb. 13:20) In verse 18-19 of Matt. 16 we see Christ giving the 'keys' of the kingdom unto the Virgin Fold that is His church. And that it is they who shall bind or loose in heaven by binding or loosing the on earth. And in Luke 12:47-48 we can rest assured what will be their fate if they prove unfaithful! A whole Fold or Fold's'. See Rev. 2:5!

In this 'church denomination' of Matt. 16:13-19 lets build a little more on as seen over in Matt. 18:14-18. Then we will go back to the Virgin Parable of Matt. 25.
To be Christ's representative on earth (act in His stead) they must first be faithful! (see Rev. 2:5 & remember that Virgin Israel in 'doctrine' only had just been rejected)

Now in Matt. 18:17-18 we see it again stated:
"Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. ...

Pause! Remember that this is the new church. All of this had been done by Gods faithful, to Israel of olds now past Virgin Fold! They were now desolate of Christ! Matt. 23:38. They rejected Him & a new leader had now taken over. (compare Rev. 3:9) So this first part of these verses MUST be done & was & will always be done if the VIRGIN FOLD is to follow on with the Everlasting Gospel Plan. (or else as the earlier verses show, the whole fold will be rejected) Only a faithful denominational fold will have the keys of the kingdom! But let us continue on with the Masters Words.

...And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN: AND WHATSOEVER YE SHALL LOOSE ON EARTH SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN." Do you believe the Masters Words! Will you accept His Written testimony? What Christ has said is that when one is accepted into the True Virgin Fold that He has established here on 'earth' by baptism, then their name is recorded in the Lamb's book of life in heavenly Zion's record book! And if one has his name removed because of open unrepentant sin, (after the person has fulfilled the obligation of the previous verses) it is then that the person is to be removed from the record books even in heaven itself! And if the 'fold' as a whole is not faithful? Then they too will be removed and Christ will again start fresh with ones that will love enough to be responsible. Rev. 2:5

Now back to Matt. 25 parable, & then on to 'some' of Matt. 10:5-38 for the meaning of Christ's.. "..when they were alone, He expounded all things to His disciples."

We see in verse 1 Christ comparing ... "Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten Virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the Bridegroom." In Matt. 10:5-6 the disciples were to 'go forth' to the [lost sheep of the house of Israel]. Notice in verse 5 of Matt. 25? that they are ALL FAST ASLEEP. Remember that is was Christ, John, and the disciples that were [outside] of the yoked membership of Israel. (John even had converts) The only way that the Virgins of Matt. 25 could be saved was to go forth to meet the Bridegroom. (Christ) And we see that it was their Midnight CRY! AND WHO GAVE IT? AND WHERE DID IT COME FROM? Only these OUTSIDE ones were Awakened from the start. These ones were 'separated from the 'yoked membership'. (see Rev. 18:4 for comparison)
And ln verse 6 as to an end time repeated Truth..."Go ye out to meet Him." OUTSIDE! Again their 'fold' had become D-E-S-L-A-T-E of Christ, He was put out! Finally killed by His OWN!

Now comes another truth! (TWOFOLD) We see a 'closed door' in verse 10. Probation for Christ's Virgin fold or denomination finally had their probation CLOSED as a denomination! And we know what Christ now did, A new Fold was begun with the same Virgin Doctrines and with Him as 'their leader'. And the one that He was rejected by?? They made havoc with Christ and His followers in the new fold. And again, in Matt. 10:23 we see the exact same history being told for the last day Virgin Fold that is again repeating itself! (remember that it was Christ that was already there speaking)

It might be well to mention that there was to be a 'MIDNIGHT CRY' to awaken the ALL sleeping Virgins of Israel. And the 5 wise did leave while the other half stayed put, these did not have enough 'oil in their vessels'! But make no mistake, it does give understanding that they did have some oil of Christ's Righteous Love. (see Rev. 3:16-17's sickening 'lukewarm' love) We often think that the 'Midnight' Cry was quick & an quickly responded to decision, but as Matt. 10:3-38 documents, it was a 'seven times' 27-34 AD Midnight Cry.

In 70 AD we know that Israel of old was 'ALL' slaughtered as a city & nation. (see Eze. 9 for the repeat) Yet, still inside the fallen desolate of Christ's rejected fold, there were still 'new born' babes that were immature as of yet, (see Matt. 23:15) these still had a chance to leave. Their 'door' of probation had not closed as of yet, they were given until 70 AD to leave! (see Matt. 24:14-20 .. take note that these ones were still to be 7th day Sabbath keepers!) Then comes what both Christ & Paul stated in the history repeat, that when Christ comes the 'second' time, that "He will cut it short in righteousness! This was the Loud Cry to them! The parallel is that of Rev. 14:6-10. The LOUD CRY is that of the Worlds Warning against taking the Mark of the Beast. Yet, as seen in Israel of old & again in today's setting, just as Virgin Israel of old was 'JUDGED FIRST' before the 'Loud Cry', so also were these seen in 1 Peter 4:17!

This is where you are at in the Present Day Truth! "And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest, (ex/bride of Christ!) And desired [of him] letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem." Just in closing let it be known that it is because ISRAEL is DESOLATE of CHRIST that they need the Power of Caesar to do 's'atans work. Rev. 3:3
 
Revelation 13:15 He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

The above verse takes place in Judea.Not the world.

I understand everyones desires to be beheaded for not worshipping the beast but those are a select few people from a certain ethnic group.
 
guysmith said:
The Parable of the Ten Virgins

In this parable, Christ represents the bridegroom, and the virgins represent individuals which will be alive at Christ's advent. Five of these individuals (Christian) are found worthy to go into the kingdom, and five (who think they are Christian) are not. I think that most everyone will agree to this assessment.
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My only question, where do you see yourself in this parable?

In Yehoshua,

Guy Smith
Perhaps I'm just special, but no, I don't hold to that assessment. However, I do see myself and others in the parable. Further, individual virgins don't have to remain foolish; they can wise up. :clap
 
Sinthesis said:
Perhaps I'm just special, but no, I don't hold to that assessment. However, I do see myself and others in the parable. Further, individual virgins don't have to remain foolish; they can wise up. :clap
A man can not serve two Masters.
 
Well, who gave the [[[MIDNIGHT CRY]]], and it was not just a five minute [[[WAKE/UP CRY]]] was it? And AGAIN, Christ states that they were [[[ALL]]] SLeeping, so where did the CRY Originate FROM?? Come back & tell us the answers if this is not you. + one more question.. we need the TIME/FRAME for this! Was it old Israel or the ENDTIME Truth of Laodicea's [[[LAST SPEWED OUT CHURCH CANDELSTICK]]]?
--Elijah
 
Apostle Paul gave us more on the meaning of the spiritual virgin, and he pulled a lot of that from the Old Testament prophets where the idea was FIRST given.

2 Cor 11:2-4
2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
(KJV)

We are espoused to one Husband, Jesus Christ. That idea is from Isaiah 54. We are to be presented as "a chaste virgin" to Christ Jesus when He comes. But Paul had fear, lest one's mind was corrupted from the simplicity in Christ, and instead wrongly accepts the "another Jesus" whom he and the Apostles did not preach.

Thus the virgin symbol is about spiritual worship, either remaining 'chaste' in the spiritual sense waiting for Christ, or instead becoming a spiritual harlot and being joined in spiritual marriage too early to a false one, the "another Jesus". How many knew there was such an idea as the "another Jesus" written in God's Word?

But let's don't stop there with this metaphor, for there's more...

Luke 23:27-31
27 And there followed Him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented Him.
28 But Jesus turning unto them said, "Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for Me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.
29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, 'Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.'
30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, 'Fall on us'; and to the hills, 'Cover us.'

31 For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?
(KJV)

Our Lord Jesus said that to those who cried for Him when He was going to be crucified in Jerusalem. He also... was pulling from Isaiah 54.

Isa 54:1
1 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.
(KJV)

This barren metaphor is a bit tricky, but once you 'get' it, you've 'got it', and all the parables our Lord Jesus gave about the virgins, His bride and any other metaphor about spiritual harlotry should immediately fall into place.

I'll start a new thread titled "Blessed are the barren" for those interested.
 
Hello mdo,

You stated: By the way, [Yehoshua] is not correct. The letter "E" was not used as a vowel in the Proto Semitic, and the letter "o" is do to a scribes error. The correct trans-literation into English is "Yahshua."

My response: I am not completely set on the subject. Do you know of a study that addresses this issue?

Guy
 
Before we see ALL OF THESE ASLEEP ONES as silent as the verse states, you take note of the first verse..

Matt.25
[1] Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
[2] And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
(and these in heavens rebellion were saved then at that point!)

Elijah here is probably the only poster that believes this?? In Rev. 12 we see 1/3 fell in heavens rebellion. That is not quite as this verse from Christ documents!? Unless of course Christ did indeed win back this few number of fallen angels in between the 1/2 & 1/3 who also were reclaimed by the MERCY SEAT [IN FAITH] later projection! And yet, this kingdom of heaven could apply only to us?? But then Eccl. 1:9-10 + Eccl. 3:15 would need to be tossed out.

So I think that 'i' will just keep on BELIEVING INSPIRATION!
Even a couple verses tossed in for [My Faith]. Job 26:7 & Psalms 33:6-9
 
Greetings, Guy.

I have a question: are you including the Church/body of Christ as the Christians in the 7 years tribulation?

If so, then I disagree with you, for IMO Paul makes it clear in 2 Thes 2:1-4 that the departure (falling away--KJV) of the Church/body takes place first before the man of sin is revealed.

And from Ephesians 1 through 3, God gives us a fore-view of our future in the heavenlies, as Sons of God, and thus Heirs of God and Joint-heirs with Christ. Sons have those honors, not a bride.
God sees us seated with Christ in the heavenlies (Eph. 2:5-6). Nothing to do with the millennium on earth.

If your view is that Christians during Daniel's 70th week are Messianic Jews, who, since the full number of the Gentiles (nations) have come in to complete the Church/body, now have the veil lifted and know it is Jesus of Nazereth who is their Messiah, and could be called "Christians", then I would agree.
 
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