the rapture

[warhorse]

O really - so your trying to tell me that when the bible says a tribulation that is 3 1/2 years

5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

The bible really means a tribulation of over 2,000 years since the cross.



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Sad indeed...The antichrist will be satan he is not Catholic he is not Muslim he is not Arab, he is a supenatural fallen cherub that is attempting to be God.

Do you see any scripture limiting the tribulation to the 3 1/2 year period of the man of sin. i dont. And saten has manifested himself as many peaple over the years. John does a great job of defining anti-christ and it is not just a person. It would include Islam, Judiasm and many peaple who simply presume that jesus was a nice guy but not the son of God.

I lean toward islam as the end time AC for a few reasons, one there own eshcatalogy writes them into that role. Two they have been butchering christians for 1400 years. 666 is there number of perfection. and the dome of the rock already sits in the Glorius holy mount,
see Dan 11v45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
Oh and a few million sword in hand followers waiting for the mahdi's appearance really should make it obviose.

1 JOHN 2
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is ANTICHRIST, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 JOHN 4
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of ANTICHRIST, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2 JOHN 1
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an ANTICHRIST.

Oh and the war too the very end should show that the Man of sin never gets control of the entire world, there will be at least two sides.

 

[warfrog]

Its really simple your just ignoring the truth to hold on to what you believe was revealed to you.

2 Thess 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Revelation 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:

san is called the son of perdition because he is going into perdition he is going to perish , it was foretold long ago.

I showed you exactly how the beast also fills that discription, in fact the beast and false prophet go into the fire before satan does.
If Satan was actually one of them, then who is the satan who is bound for the thousand years? bigger Satan?
No.
the beast and false prophet are both men who have Satans power, the beast of the earth has power, a throne and authority of the dragon, the beast of the sea has that power in the first beast's presence and neither are actually Satan.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[7he4uthor]

The October 28th end date of the Maya/Aztec/Olmec Calendar is 1 week after Camping's date of Oct. 21st,
... and 2 days after the new moon

The harvest moon is fall the time of death
The May Day moon is one of life
Like Beltane and Samhain witch do have significance in the lunar Jewish calendar as well.

Life = rapture = spring
Death = extermination = fall

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