Hi all
I have recently been looking into human genetics and the use of DNA to trace heritage. I myself am of a Romani (Gypsy) family and though we have lived in Europe since the early 1300s our ancestry originates from India - hence my studies.
My studies have mostly been on the "Human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroups"
What has surprised me is there seems to be emerging from research three distinct branches. At the moment there is the "out of Africa" theory that traces all mankind back to one man who they call 'Adam'. This is due to all mankind having the same certain DNA changes which show we all come from a common source (Noah as Christians believe due to flood wiping out the rest of the world from Adam).
What scientists are finding is all DNA haplogroups fall into three main branches. At the moment they say that group one came first. Then group 2 descended from group one. Finally group three descended from group one via group two. I am understanding this is because Group three has DNA traits found in both group 1 & group 2. Group 2 has DNA traits found in groups one but not group 3. From a Christian view I would say this just proves that all three does come from the same source - Noah.
Also from what I have been seeing, the further we try to go back the harder it is to determine roots and study is not always as accurate. I say this as a few times research into the root of a group / subgroup has often had to changed as evidence becomes clearer. I'm sure the main groups won't change but looking on previous cases they may change the root on the groups as additional research is carried out.
Now lets look at the groups and see who these people are.
The first group is Y DNA haplogroups A to E (Hamites?)
These are mostly area that we see described as being populated by the descendants of Ham. I think that the Jewish scholar Flavius Josephus who lived under Roman rule mentions in one of his books that the Mongols are descended from Ham - I'll have to check that one.
A = Africans (Ethiopians, Khoisans & Nilotics)
B = Africans (pygmies, Hadzabe)
C = Native Australasians, native Indonesians, Polynesians & Mongolians
E = Africa (most)
The second group F through to H (Shemites)
F = southern India
G = Caucasus (Armenia, Georgia etc) (sons of Aram?)
H = India / Romani (sons of Elam? - Dravidian languages which are believed to be the earliest Indian languages are related to Elamite of ancient SW Iran and make a language group titled "Elamo-Dravidian")
IJ = I = Bosnia and Herzegovina, Norway & Sardinia (sons of Joktan?)
J =Iraquis, Syrians, Jews & Arabs {sons of Peleg?)
The third group is K through to T (The coastland people - Japhethites?)
K = Philippines, Oceania
L = South, west & central Asia
T = very small group found in southern Asia & on the coast of Somalia
Then there is Haplogroup MNOPS within this branch
M = New Guinea, Melanesia
sub group NO (the many sons of Togamah?)
N = Yakuts (northern Asia), Saami, Finns (finland)
O = E.asia / China
P = Q & R (Magog?)
Q = Native Americans & some E.asians
R = Indo-Europeans of Europe, central Asia, Iran & northern India.
S = New Guinea
I have recently been looking into human genetics and the use of DNA to trace heritage. I myself am of a Romani (Gypsy) family and though we have lived in Europe since the early 1300s our ancestry originates from India - hence my studies.
My studies have mostly been on the "Human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroups"
What has surprised me is there seems to be emerging from research three distinct branches. At the moment there is the "out of Africa" theory that traces all mankind back to one man who they call 'Adam'. This is due to all mankind having the same certain DNA changes which show we all come from a common source (Noah as Christians believe due to flood wiping out the rest of the world from Adam).
What scientists are finding is all DNA haplogroups fall into three main branches. At the moment they say that group one came first. Then group 2 descended from group one. Finally group three descended from group one via group two. I am understanding this is because Group three has DNA traits found in both group 1 & group 2. Group 2 has DNA traits found in groups one but not group 3. From a Christian view I would say this just proves that all three does come from the same source - Noah.
Also from what I have been seeing, the further we try to go back the harder it is to determine roots and study is not always as accurate. I say this as a few times research into the root of a group / subgroup has often had to changed as evidence becomes clearer. I'm sure the main groups won't change but looking on previous cases they may change the root on the groups as additional research is carried out.
Now lets look at the groups and see who these people are.
The first group is Y DNA haplogroups A to E (Hamites?)
These are mostly area that we see described as being populated by the descendants of Ham. I think that the Jewish scholar Flavius Josephus who lived under Roman rule mentions in one of his books that the Mongols are descended from Ham - I'll have to check that one.
A = Africans (Ethiopians, Khoisans & Nilotics)
B = Africans (pygmies, Hadzabe)
C = Native Australasians, native Indonesians, Polynesians & Mongolians
E = Africa (most)
The second group F through to H (Shemites)
F = southern India
G = Caucasus (Armenia, Georgia etc) (sons of Aram?)
H = India / Romani (sons of Elam? - Dravidian languages which are believed to be the earliest Indian languages are related to Elamite of ancient SW Iran and make a language group titled "Elamo-Dravidian")
IJ = I = Bosnia and Herzegovina, Norway & Sardinia (sons of Joktan?)
J =Iraquis, Syrians, Jews & Arabs {sons of Peleg?)
The third group is K through to T (The coastland people - Japhethites?)
K = Philippines, Oceania
L = South, west & central Asia
T = very small group found in southern Asia & on the coast of Somalia
Then there is Haplogroup MNOPS within this branch
M = New Guinea, Melanesia
sub group NO (the many sons of Togamah?)
N = Yakuts (northern Asia), Saami, Finns (finland)
O = E.asia / China
P = Q & R (Magog?)
Q = Native Americans & some E.asians
R = Indo-Europeans of Europe, central Asia, Iran & northern India.
S = New Guinea
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