THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

[herald]

In Psalm 119, Dr. R.C.Sproul taught that the word, "Word," Is used interchangeably with, "law," "commandments," "judgments," "precepts," "statutes," "testimonies."

GOD'S WORD IS HIS LAW.

"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Rom 3:31.

Jesus said, "He that rejecteth Me and receiveth not My Words, hath one that judgeth him, THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN, THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM IN THE LAST DAY. John 12:48.

The Apostle John wrote, "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: FOR SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW." 1 John 3:4.

The Apostle Paul wrote, "For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: AND AS MANY AS HAVE SINNED IN THE LAW SHALL BE JUDGED BY THE LAW; For not the hearers of the law are just before God, BUT THE DOERS OF THE LAW SHALL BE JUSTIFIED." Rom 2:12,13.

When we are born again, we have the power within us to obey His Word/His law.

Ezekiel wrote, "A NEW HEART also will I give you, and A NEW SPIRIT will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

And I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, and cause you to walk in My statutes, and ye shall keep My judgments and do them." Ezek 36:26,27. When His Spirit is within us, we are empowered to obey His Word/His law.

Jesus said, "Verily, verily I say unto thee (Nicodemus), Except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God...Verily, verily I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God...Marvel not that I said unto thee, YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN." John 3:3-7. If you are not born again, you will never enter into the kingdom of God. First, ask the Triune God to enter into your heart, and then you will have eternal life.

AMEN! It tells us in His Word, what His will is.

 

[Physicist]

List them all

If you wish to have a serious discussion of the OT ten commandments, I think it is important to note that there are more then ten and that the listings are not consistent in all the books of the OT. For example, I do not see the Exodus 35:25-26 commandments included in the previous post. Yet, just after these commandments are given, verses 27- and 28 (directly following) report that YHWH directed Moses to write these words down as they were part of THE 10 commandments.

 

[herald]

I agree with you, there are many more commandments, but, the Ten are in The Ark, and The Ark is in heaven.

 

[dan p]

The New Covenant:

The Old Covenant was the Ten Commandment Covenant. Deut 4:13;Ex 34:28. The New Covenant is the Old Covenant engraved in our hearts and minds. Jer 31:31-34;Heb 8:10 - An Internal Covenant.

"Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men. Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshly tablets of the heart." 2 Cor 3:2,3.

#1 "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me."

#2 "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is is the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God AM a jealous God, visiting the iniquity (lawlessness) of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me: and showing mercy unto thousands of them that love Me, and keep My commandments."

"Wherefore My beloved, flee from idolatry." 1 Cor 10:14;Ga 5:20;Col 3:5;1 Thess 1:9;1 John 5:21;Rev 9:20.

#3 "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain."

"And men were scorched with a great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give Him glory." Rev 16:9;1 Pet 4:14;Rom 2:24;Acts 4:12;Phil 2:9,10;Rev 13:6.

#4 "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy man servant, nor thy maid servant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it." He never blessed and sanctified Sunday.

Jesus referred to Himself as "The Lord of the Sabbath." Matt 12:8;Mk 2:28;Lu 6:5. Jesus prophesied that the Sabbath would be kept during The Great Tribulation, and we are not there yet. Matt 24:20. The children of Israel, Jesus, His disciples, and the New Testament Christians kept the Sabbath holy. Mt 12:1,2,5,8,10,11,12;24:20;28:1Mk 1:21;2:23,24,27,28;3:2...Acts 1:12;13:14,27,42,44;15:21;16:13;17:2;18:4.

Isaiah prophesied that we will keep the Sabbath in His kingdom. Isa 66:22,23.

#5 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee."

"For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy." 2 Tim 3:2;Matt 10:21;Rom 1:30;Eph 6:1;Col 3:20...

#6 "Thou shalt not kill."

Jesus said, "...Thou shalt not murder..." Matt 19:18;Mk 10:19;Lu 18:20;Rom 13:9;Ja 2:11...

#7 "Thou shalt not commit adultery."

Jesus said, "...Thou shalt not commit adultery..." Matt 19:18;Mk 10:19;Lu 18:20;Rom 13:9;Ja 2:11...

#8 "Thou shalt not steal.:

Jesus said, "Thou knowest the commandments...Do not steal..." Mt 19:18;Mk 10:19;Lu 18:20...

#9 "Thou shalt not bear false witness."

Jesus said, "...Thou shalt not bear false witness..." Mt 19:18;Mk 10:19;Lu 18:20...

#10 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his man servant, nor his maid servant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor's."

"...Thou shalt not covet..." Rom 13:9;7:7;1 Cor 5:10,11;6:10;Eph 5:5;1 Tim 3:3;2 Ti 3:2;2 Pet 2:14...

"As far as the east is from the west, so far hath He removed our transgressions )"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law" 1 John 3:4) ...TO SUCH AS KEEP HIS COVENANT AND TO THOSE THAT REMEMBER HIS COMMANDMENTS TO DO THEM." Ps 103. Covenants have conditions.

Even in heaven, the Lord makes quite a statement about His Covenant: "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple The Ark of His Testament: and there were LIGHTNINGS, and VOICES, and THUNDERINGS, and AN EARTHQUAKE, and GREAT HAIL." Rev 11:19.

There was only One Covenant within The Ark - THE TEN COMMANDMENT COVENANT.

Hi herald , I know you are steeped in keeping the Law .

#1 , will you stone anyone who doe NOT keep the Sabbath ????

#2 , Does your wife , do all her cooking on the day before the Sabbath , so as n0t to break the Sabbath ????????
# 3 , do you ahere to a Sabbath day journey on the Sabbath ????

#4 , In Ezek 46:1 , the door of your house needs to be shut for 6 days and on the Sabbath day you shall open it , are you doing these ????

#5 ,AND no planting of veggies on the 7 th years , for you have to let the Land REST .

 

[Elijah674]

"...shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love Me and keep My commandments." Ex 20:6.

"As far as the east is from the west, so far hath He removed our transgressions ("of the law" 1 John 3:4) from us...to such as keep His Covenant and to those that remember His commandments to do them." Ps 103.

"With my whole heart have I sought Thee: O let me not wander from Thy commandments. Thy Word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee." Ps 119:10-11.

"I will run in the way of Thy commandments, when Thou shalt enlarge my heart." Ps 119:32.

"Make me to go in the path of Thy commandments; for therein do I delight." Ps 119:35.

"And I will delight myself in Thy commandments, which I have loved." Ps 119:47.

"Therefore I love Thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold." Ps 119:127.

"I opened my mouth, and panted: for I longed for Thy commandments." Ps 119:131.

"He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain My Words: keep My commandments and live." Pro 4:4.

Jesus said, "And He said unto him, Why callest thou Me good? There is none good but One, that is God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." Matt 19:17.

"If ye keep My commandments, ye shall abide in My love; even as I have kept the Father's commandments, and abide in His love.." John 15:10.

When Jesus gave us "The Two Greatest Commandments," He was quoting the law: Deut 6:5;Lev 19:18:

"Then one of them which was a lawyer, asked Him a question, tempting Him, and saying, Master which is the great commandment IN THE LAW?

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thine soul, and with all thine might. Deut 6:5. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Lev 19:18. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." Matt 22:37-40.

"By this we know that we love the children of God (Lev 19:18), when we love God (Deut 6:5) and keep His commandments: FOR THIS IS THE LOVE OF GOD THAT WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: and His commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5;2,3.

Jesus said, "If ye love Me, keep My commandments." John 14:15.

Jesus said, "He that hath My commandments and keepeth them, he it is that loveth Me: and he that loveth Me shall be loved of My Father, and I will love him, and will manifest Myself to him." John 14:21.

"Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God." 1 Cor 7:19.

"And hereby we do know that we know Him, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. He that saith, I KNOW HIM and keepeth not His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:3,4.

"And he that keepeth His commandments dwelleth in him, and He in him." 1 John 3:24.

"And this is love that we walk after His commandments." 2 John 6.

His Church Keeps His Commandments: "And the Dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Rev 12:17.

His Saints Keep His Commandments: "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." Rev 14:12.

"Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have RIGHT to the tree of life, AND MAY ENTER IN through the gates into the city." Rev 22:14. The Apostle John makes a connection between keeping the commandments of God and entering into eternal life.

Even in heaven, the Lord makes quite a statement about His Covenant: "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple The Ark of His Testament: and there were LIGHTNINGS, and VOICES, and THUNDERINGS, and AN EARTHQUAKE, and GREAT HAIL." Rev 11:19.

There was only One Covenant within The Ark - THE TEN COMMANDMENT COVENANT.

Hi herald ,and I know that you believe that we should keep the 10 commandments !!!

In Rom 13:8-10 , Paul has quoted some of the Law of Moses !!!

#1 , But , Paul did NOT quote them all , and their has to be a reason , right ???

#2 , Why not ???

#3 , And you will not explain Eph 2:12 , where Gentiles were never given the Law !!!!

#4 , What do you say ????

Hi, just breezing over this thread and your question. I am not going on to see what is posted up. But Rom. 13 is what will be wore out at the testing time of 666. Most think that Caesar is top dog by reading this book chapter. Peter tells us God is FIRST in Acts! That we 'Ought to OBEY God rather than man.' But this book of Rom. 13 does give Ceasar authority from God, yet notice that it is only the second table of the ten. And then it is our duty to mankind.

Never does Christ give Ceasar power of Freedonm of ones worship! The First Four commandments.
And this is why USA has been blessed of God, and called Lamb/like. But it is about all over with as we will go from lamb to dragon like with forced religeon. And the USA Supreme Court is already in place to follow the daughters lead of forced Worship.

And you need a good study on the Laws that Moses penned in Deut. 31:9 + verse 24-26, these are not what was inside the Ark. (and still are!)
--Elijah

 

[glorydaz]

If we do not keep the Ten Commandment Covenant, we are lawless and will not enjoy eternal life, that is what Jesus said, in Matthew 7:21-23:

"Not everyone that SAITH unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH the will of My Father which is in heaven.

MANY will say to Me in that day,Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity." (lawlessness) Matt 7:21-23.

"And hereby we do know that we know Him, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. He that saith I KNOW HIM, and keepeth not His commandments is a LIAR, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth His Word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby we do know that we are in Him." 1 John 2:3-5.

It sounds plain enough to me.

One can follow the Ten and still break the many commands that Jesus gave.
That seems very clear to me.
His commandments are the 180 some from the NT...not the 10 from the OT.

They said of old...do not commit adultery. Well and good.
Jesus told us (His commands to us) to not look at a woman with lust. So isn't Jesus expecting more than the 10 commandments do? Of course He is...we have the Holy Spirit to help us fulfill His higher calling. Can we claim to be righteous by keeping the Ten? It would be easier....they are much easier to follow, that's for sure.

 

[Elijah674]

The Law of God finds the Saved ones Born Again LOVING CHRIST which IS HIS LETTER EPISTLE.. MORAL MAKE/UP penned for us!! 2 Cor. 3:3

Who that LOVES CHRIST would not want to FOLLOW HIS FOOTSTEPS??? Even the sin of omission hard tracks?? ALL OF THEM!

James tells us the Truth & what these ones already know! ;) And we know what the one Commandment it is that most truely fight against as well. Yet, in this day of Holy Spirit rejected age, (as seen in Gen. 6:3) we even see the gal's as bad as the professed Christian men, robbing banks, killing their children, (babies) + all else while all are being taught falsely that God has no law! And you think that these 'teachers' are to have their name retained in the book of life, huh?

NO WAY MY FRIEND, NO WAY! Mal. 4:1-4 + Obad. 1:16
Matt. 6
[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

--Elijah

 

[glorydaz]

The Law of God finds the Saved ones Born Again LOVING CHRIST which IS HIS LETTER EPISTLE.. MORAL MAKE/UP penned for us!! 2 Cor. 3:3

Who that LOVES CHRIST would not want to FOLLOW HIS FOOTSTEPS??? Even the sin of omission hard tracks?? ALL OF THEM!

James tells us the Truth & what these ones already know! ;) And we know what the one Commandment it is that most truely fight against as well. Yet, in this day of Holy Spirit rejected age, (as seen in Gen. 6:3) we even see the gal's as bad as the professed Christian men, robbing banks, killing their children, (babies) + all else while all are being taught falsely that God has no law! And you think that these 'teachers' are to have their name retained in the book of life, huh?

NO WAY MY FRIEND, NO WAY! Mal. 4:1-4 + Obad. 1:16
Matt. 6
[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

--Elijah

Those who advocate sin aren't the Christians...they're those of the world. Same as it's been from the beginning. The law is to point out sin to the unbelievers. Those who are the children of God seek to obey their father. An example....As a child of God's, I could follow the command that says when someone asks for my coat to give him my cloak also, or........I could listen to the Holy Spirit who tells me, in a particular case don't give the person what he asks for, it isn't God's will that I do so because God has a lesson in store for the person. There are countless instances where following a particular rule is not what God asks. He expects us to follow His will above any rule. That's where the Spirit's leading beats the written law. The Jews were big on following the letter of the law and ignoring the spirit of the law. We, in the age of grace, are freed from the letter as we follow the Spirit.

 

[shad]

If we do not keep the Ten Commandment Covenant, we are lawless and will not enjoy eternal life, that is what Jesus said, in Matthew 7:21-23:

"Not everyone that SAITH unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH the will of My Father which is in heaven.

MANY will say to Me in that day,Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity." (lawlessness) Matt 7:21-23.

"And hereby we do know that we know Him, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. He that saith I KNOW HIM, and keepeth not His commandments is a LIAR, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth His Word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby we do know that we are in Him." 1 John 2:3-5.

It sounds plain enough to me.

Amen and Amen

 

[Elijah674]

If we do not keep the Ten Commandment Covenant, we are lawless and will not enjoy eternal life, that is what Jesus said, in Matthew 7:21-23:

"Not everyone that SAITH unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH the will of My Father which is in heaven.

MANY will say to Me in that day,Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity." (lawlessness) Matt 7:21-23.

"And hereby we do know that we know Him, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. He that saith I KNOW HIM, and keepeth not His commandments is a LIAR, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth His Word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby we do know that we are in Him." 1 John 2:3-5.

It sounds plain enough to me.

Amen and Amen

??? In Gen. 6:3 we see the Holy Spirit STRIVING for 120 years right along with who Peter called the preacher of Rightousness. And the Rev. 17:1-5 crew have been on the scene way past that time/period.
And the ONLY way to account for that happening again (Eccl. 3:15) is this Truth of 1 John 4
[5] They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
[6] We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

--Elijah

 

[glorydaz]

All scripture....not just some.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

This is why we have a new and better covenant. So we can learn from the Holy Spirit who indwells the believer and leads him into understanding spiritual truths taught in the Word of God.

But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

We will be led into righteousness as we walk in the Spirit....

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

:amen

 

[JudaicChristian]

All scripture....not just some.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

This is why we have a new and better covenant. So we can learn from the Holy Spirit who indwells the believer and leads him into understanding spiritual truths taught in the Word of God.
[quote="Romans 7:6":2h7a3bon]But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

We will be led into righteousness as we walk in the Spirit....

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

:amen[/quote:2h7a3bon]
"for reproof, for correction..." This means that with scriptural comparisons you can discover what is truly the word of God, or what has been changed to deceive the Elect by doctrines of men.

 

[Elijah674]

Walking IN THE SPIRIT is going against His 66 Books of HIS INSPIRATION of 2Tim. 3:16 + Christ's REQUIRED EVERY WORD (of Matt. 4:4) OF Inspiration??? You will soon find out, huh? Mal. 4:1-4 + Obad. 1:16

--Elijah

PS: Forum, what is by far the worse is what these postings are teaching for truth to you! Rev. 22:18-19 & Eccl. 3:14 + Exod. 32:33!

 

[glorydaz]

Walking IN THE SPIRIT is going against His 66 Books of HIS INSPIRATION of 2Tim. 3:16 + Christ's REQUIRED EVERY WORD (of Matt. 4:4) OF Inspiration??? You will soon find out, huh? Mal. 4:1-4 + Obad. 1:16

--Elijah

PS: Forum, what is by far the worse is what these postings are teaching for truth to you! Rev. 22:18-19 & Eccl. 3:14 + Exod. 32:33!

You do know about the New Covenant, don't you?

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

John 4:23
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

John 14:17
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Ephesians 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 5:9
(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

2 Thessalonians 2:13
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

1 Peter 1:22
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

 

[Elijah674]

First off! NO ONE will be GIVEN the Holy Ghost who has not BEEN BORN AGAIN, John 3:3 That is the REQUIREMENT Christ states! Then we see that the Holy Spirit is given ON CONDITION of OBEDIENCE! Acts 5:32!! AND??? He Inspired the Whole of the 66 Books [TO OBEY] from Adams sin ON!
--Elijah

 

[glorydaz]

A new and better covenant has come for those who worship God in Spirit and in Truth.
Believers are the children of promise...not the children of the bond woman.

But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

A better day has come for those who walk in newness of life.

Jeremiah 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Hebrews 8:8
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Hebrews 8:13
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews 12:24
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

 

[Elijah674]

The Eternal Word of God CONDEM ALL who violate THeir Eternal Covenant! James 2:8-12, Heb. 13:20, 1 John 2:4 +!

2 Peter 2:
[17] These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.

(compare Luke 12:47-48 & Obadiah 1:16 + the Rev. 17:5 ones in LARGE numbers! mom & daughters!)

[18] For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

(one/time saved! Past/tense! See Heb. 6:6)

[19] While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

(here we see many a fold or church 's teaching! They promise LIBERTY while living in acknowledged documented sin! We are sinners is there claim. And we ARE SAVED 'IN' SIN! And when ones does a check of the message boards?? These ones are all over the place!)

[20] For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

(these ones are the ones who live in sin. They are past/tense as far as ever returning to Christ. They have rejected the Holy Spirit's Leading from sin, for the very last time. Rom. 8:14. They are OVERCOME! James 1:15, 1 John 5:16's last part of the verse.)

[21] For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

(A couple of thoughts are seen here. These ones were at one time Born Again believers who made a promising start, but balked & stymied at the Leading of the Holy Ghost as they were given new Truths by Christ's TOTAL Word. See Hosea 4:6, 2 Tim. 3:16-17 & Matt. 4:4's total Everlasting Gospel & the Godheads ETERNAL Covenant! Rev. 14:6 & Heb. 13:20.

And these ones are the most accountable of all mankind. These will suffer hell/fire in the hardest executional stage of judgement! Christ's Words again of Luke 12:47-48 & Matt. 10:15 for how much more sorrowful the punishment than that of even Sodom and Gomorrah. And Christ states that He would rather these ones to be 'cold' than lukewarm. Rev. 3:16-17 The reason being, is that they are blind to their spiritual condition and the Holy Spirit can move the cold ones before these ones. (read some postings here!)

[22] But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

These ones have returned into being spiritual brain dead once again, and that is quite a large crop! All of the ABOMINATION OF THE EARTH ONES, and ALL OF THE SAME CLASS of 'BROADWAY' professed Christians!

---Elijah

 

[glorydaz]

LOL....you can post all the scripture you want without actually calling me names, but that doesn't change the fact that we are no longer under the law. Jesus brought a new and better covenant whereby we are no longer under bondage. Jesus is the way out of the bondage...the only way. We now have the Holy Spirit to lead and to guide us into all truth. No one claims we have a license to sin....we just don't have to put ourselves under the schoolmaster. We have a higher calling as children of God.