The Truth About Jesus’ Death

[kathydixon]

The Truth About Jesus’ Death
It is a long read but the truth must be told completely
https://tinyurl.com/yfezuvc8

 

[Who Me]

The Truth About Jesus’ Death
It is a long read but the truth must be told completely
https://tinyurl.com/yfezuvc8

No summary of the argument so no reading of link.


If the argument changes the standard christian account, it is wrong,

 

[Free]

The Truth About Jesus’ Death
It is a long read but the truth must be told completely
https://tinyurl.com/yfezuvc8

"In conclusion, after reviewing all the available written facts concerning Jesus Christ, I find overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ did not die for our sins but was murdered by the Romans, at the request of the local Rabbis in Jerusalem and in return, the revolt against the Roman occupation would stop."

From a strictly human perspective, sure--the Jews had their reasons and the Romans theirs. However, the whole point is that Christ's crucifixion (and resurrection) was God's plan since the very beginning.

Rom 5:6 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom 5:7 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die—
Rom 5:8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Rom 5:9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.
Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. (ESV)

This is just one passage of many that very clearly shows that Jesus died for our sins to justify us, save us from the wrath of God, and reconcile us to him. For one to conclude that "Jesus Christ did not die for our sins," one has to ignore much of Scripture, including how God uses and orchestrates historical events and cultural and religious contexts to achieve his purposes.

 

[jerry63935]

The Truth About Jesus’ Death
It is a long read but the truth must be told completely
https://tinyurl.com/yfezuvc8

what a mess yes Jesus death was political for the romans.. But his death was prophesied all through out the o.t in a nut shell yes he died for our sins . he paid a debt he did not owe . actually they did not kill him. He gave up the Ghost three powerful words sums it up IT IS FINISHED the sin debt has been paid in full . the resurrections Gives us the new life Thanks be to God who gives us the victory Through our Lord Jesus Christ , :amen

 

[Tenchi]

"In conclusion, after reviewing all the available written facts concerning Jesus Christ, I find overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ did not die for our sins but was murdered by the Romans, at the request of the local Rabbis in Jerusalem and in return, the revolt against the Roman occupation would stop.

Jesus was teaching the Book of Ezekiel which portrayed the Jewish people badly.

The Rabbis wanted Jesus’ to shut up and the Romans wanted the rebellion to stop. Having Jesus killed solved both problems.
the truth, nothing but the truth
So help me God -
now comes the stupid, gullible and republicon response"


This is just about as poor a treatment of the facts as I could imagine. Yikes.

Recommended reading:

Cold-Case Christianity: A Homicide Detective Investigates the Claims of the Gospels.
Person of Interest: Why Jesus Still Matters in a World that Rejects the Bible.
(both books written by J. Warner Wallace)
The Historical Jesus by Dr. Gary Habermas

None of what is concluded above takes into account the multiple eye-witness accounts of Christ's many miracles, nor his supernatural resurrection from the dead, nor the incredibly transformative effect he had upon his Jewish disciples, all of whom were ready and willing to die for what they were claiming about Jesus (and did, except for John).

 

[Dorothy Mae]

"In conclusion, after reviewing all the available written facts concerning Jesus Christ, I find overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ did not die for our sins but was murdered by the Romans, at the request of the local Rabbis in Jerusalem and in return, the revolt against the Roman occupation would stop."

Two problems which you also addressed and thanks for the quote so we something to discuss.

1. What God was doing had no connection to any agreement between the Jews and the Romans.

2. The Jews rebelled worse in the decades after Jesus’ death than before so the conclusion is not supported by historical fact.