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Georges
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The Two Witnesses, who are they?
Why are there only 2 ?
Cast your vote and opine....
Why are there only 2 ?
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irishrain
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Who are GOD'sTwo Witnesses?
The seven churches are types of Churches of today.
Two Witnesses are the "Pastor" of the "the church in Philadelphia",
plus the "pastor" of the "church in Smyrna". The only two churches Christ found NO fault with. Called candlesticks in Rev 11:4. GOD's angels , messengers leads and guides these two by the HOLY Spirit Zac 4:6.
GOD's Two Witnesses consist of "one" who is over His Government
and, the other "one" who is over Religion representing the Priesthood.
Moses (Law) and Aaron over (Presthood) were types.
So, if these Two are already in their flesh, who are they?
Are they two of GOD's servants who have already gone through this earth age, but were "translated", so they have never experienced death?
No, the "translation" of Enoch and Elijah was a reward for these two
servants. Their jobs and services for GOD was completed, therefore
they received the reward of being "translated".
You've never heard of anyone being untranslated have you? NO
John 3:5-7
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of
water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit
is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (KJV)
It should read, "born from above" not "again", as we use it in the English
language.
Hebrews 9 tells us, "it is appointed unto men once to die".
Enoch (Heb 11:5) and Elijah (2 Kings 2:11-14)were rewarded for their obedience to GOD, therefore, they did not experience an earthly flesh death.
These two men did not have freewill, because they had GOD's HOLY
SPIRIT upon them completely as they were doing their appointed tasks in
the earth.
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
To be "clothed in sackcloth" is to say, that they are of the flesh bodies.
They die, shed their blood in Jerusalem. ( Rev 11:7)
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Rev 1:20 candlesticks are churches.
Who are GOD's Two Olive Trees? Zech 4
Zech 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I
said, No, my lord.
14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the LORD of the whole earth. (KJV)
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Two Witnesses are with us today.
They have been leading the children of Israel and the great multitude out of
the bondage of ignorance( Zerubbabel" is a simple transliteration of
"sown in Babylon" or "sown in confusion") for a very long time.
One is the pastor over the church of Smyrna and the other over the church of Philadelphia, which were types of what those two taught and Christ found no fault with those two.
The seven churches are types of Churches of today.
Two Witnesses are the "Pastor" of the "the church in Philadelphia",
plus the "pastor" of the "church in Smyrna". The only two churches Christ found NO fault with. Called candlesticks in Rev 11:4. GOD's angels , messengers leads and guides these two by the HOLY Spirit Zac 4:6.
GOD's Two Witnesses consist of "one" who is over His Government
and, the other "one" who is over Religion representing the Priesthood.
Moses (Law) and Aaron over (Presthood) were types.
So, if these Two are already in their flesh, who are they?
Are they two of GOD's servants who have already gone through this earth age, but were "translated", so they have never experienced death?
No, the "translation" of Enoch and Elijah was a reward for these two
servants. Their jobs and services for GOD was completed, therefore
they received the reward of being "translated".
You've never heard of anyone being untranslated have you? NO
John 3:5-7
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of
water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit
is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (KJV)
It should read, "born from above" not "again", as we use it in the English
language.
Hebrews 9 tells us, "it is appointed unto men once to die".
Enoch (Heb 11:5) and Elijah (2 Kings 2:11-14)were rewarded for their obedience to GOD, therefore, they did not experience an earthly flesh death.
These two men did not have freewill, because they had GOD's HOLY
SPIRIT upon them completely as they were doing their appointed tasks in
the earth.
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
To be "clothed in sackcloth" is to say, that they are of the flesh bodies.
They die, shed their blood in Jerusalem. ( Rev 11:7)
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Rev 1:20 candlesticks are churches.
Who are GOD's Two Olive Trees? Zech 4
Zech 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I
said, No, my lord.
14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the LORD of the whole earth. (KJV)
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Two Witnesses are with us today.
They have been leading the children of Israel and the great multitude out of
the bondage of ignorance( Zerubbabel" is a simple transliteration of
"sown in Babylon" or "sown in confusion") for a very long time.
One is the pastor over the church of Smyrna and the other over the church of Philadelphia, which were types of what those two taught and Christ found no fault with those two.
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Georges
Guest
Thanks for the response Irish....I need to make another line in the options...I've been at the Bible prophecy for many years and have been on many prophecy forums. This is the first time I've had these quoted as the 2.
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irishrain
Guest
Food for thought.
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
Is Elijah one of the Two Witnesses?
Mark 9:12-13
12 And he answered and told them, Elias verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.
13 But I say unto you, That Elias is indeed come, and they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, as it is written of him. (KJV)
John.
14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.
17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
John 1:19-28
19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.
"Art thou that prophet?"
HE was not the flesh man/prophet Elijah. There was one, and only one, individual soul Elijah the prophet.
these did not ask John if he was wearing the same mantle which had been upon Elijah, who had passed down Elisha.
They did not ask if he had come in the spirit of Elijah.
John 1:
22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself?
23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.
Which was the mission of Elijah.
Isa 40:1-5
1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD's hand double for all her sins.
3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
John was John, but he had the HOLY SPIRIT, and the spirit of Elijah, his office/position upon him.
John rightfully denied being Elijah. He was not Elijah, but the same spirit of Elijah was upon him. The HOLY SPIRIT is Symbolic of the mantle 2 Kings 2:14
Is there a type of Moses with us today?
Do we have a type of Elijah (Aaron, Elisha, etc) with us today?
GOD's HOLY SPIRIT is HE who has determined upon whom the spirit of Elijah has come upon.
And, HE has brought forth that mantle which was taken up by HIS chosen vessels. 2 Tim 2:20-21
Anyone one who teaches Truth in a sense, is preparing the Way, makeing straight in the desert a highway for our God. Part of the Elijah ministry of the end times.
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
Is Elijah one of the Two Witnesses?
Mark 9:12-13
12 And he answered and told them, Elias verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.
13 But I say unto you, That Elias is indeed come, and they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, as it is written of him. (KJV)
John.
14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.
17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
John 1:19-28
19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.
"Art thou that prophet?"
HE was not the flesh man/prophet Elijah. There was one, and only one, individual soul Elijah the prophet.
these did not ask John if he was wearing the same mantle which had been upon Elijah, who had passed down Elisha.
They did not ask if he had come in the spirit of Elijah.
John 1:
22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself?
23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.
Which was the mission of Elijah.
Isa 40:1-5
1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD's hand double for all her sins.
3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
John was John, but he had the HOLY SPIRIT, and the spirit of Elijah, his office/position upon him.
John rightfully denied being Elijah. He was not Elijah, but the same spirit of Elijah was upon him. The HOLY SPIRIT is Symbolic of the mantle 2 Kings 2:14
Is there a type of Moses with us today?
Do we have a type of Elijah (Aaron, Elisha, etc) with us today?
GOD's HOLY SPIRIT is HE who has determined upon whom the spirit of Elijah has come upon.
And, HE has brought forth that mantle which was taken up by HIS chosen vessels. 2 Tim 2:20-21
Anyone one who teaches Truth in a sense, is preparing the Way, makeing straight in the desert a highway for our God. Part of the Elijah ministry of the end times.
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Darrell dunn
Guest
Why don't you ask God, I did and He told me.
If you are hearing from God, He will also tell you.
I know absolutely who they are, but you would say thats your opinion.
So ask God.
If you are hearing from God, He will also tell you.
I know absolutely who they are, but you would say thats your opinion.
So ask God.
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Georges
Guest
Darrell dunn said:
LOL....you know...on another forum I had a fellow tell me he knew who the antichrist and the kings associated with him are because he met them personally.....I intensely dislike cryptic answers, kind of the same responses that has modern Christianity screwed up. Darrell even if you did answer the same as I, why bother responding as you did?
Ask God, if he gives you an answer that is different from mine, it must not have been God that gave you the answer....
Darrell, if God told you who the 2 witnesses are, stop with the cryptic monkey business, and lay out scripture or anything else of reference. For me as is my custom, I will try and present it from Jewish eschatology and see if it works....We may come up with the same 2 people but I want better from you than....as I was walking in the woods the clouds split, and God told me..... :wink:
Thank you......
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Georges
Guest
Judaism has 2 sets of possible candidates for the 2 witnesses of Revelation.
In Jewish eschatology, Elijah will return to announce the Messiah...
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
The other 2 candidates to fill the other position are none other than Moses or Enoch.
Personally, I have found more literature in Judaism that support Moses as being along side of Eljah, but I have seen mention of Enoch.
Jewish data supporting Moses as the 2nd of the 2:
1. Moses and Elijah are always tied together.....
Mal 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the statutes and judgments.
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mat 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
Moses, as thou hast given thy life for them (the Israelites) in this world, so in time to come (the days of the Messiah) when I shall bring Elias the prophet, you two shall come together. (Debarim Rabba, sect. 3. fol. 239.2.)
Moses, I swear to you, as you devoted your life to their service in this world, so too in the time to come when I bring Elijah, the prophet, unto them, the two of you shall come together. [Midrash Rabbah Deuteronomy]
(After the first tablets of the ten commandments are broken, Moses pleads for the people.) God replied: "Thou desirest Me to forgive them. Well, then, I shall do so, now fetch Me hither tables on which I may write the words that were written on the first. But to reward thee for offering up thy life for their sake, I shall in the future send thee along with Elijah, that both of you together may prepare Israel for the final deliverance."
(Legends of the Jews, Louis Ginzberg, Book 3)
And for Elijah....
...The resurrection of the dead cometh through Elijah of blessed memory. [Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sotah 49b]
...the holy spirit leads to the resurrection of the dead; the resurrection of the dead leads to Elijah the prophet. [Midrash Rabbah Song of Songs]
....The resurrection of the dead will come through Elijah, who will likewise act as the herald to announce the advent of the Messiah. [Everyman's Talmud]
I'll get back with the ref for Enoch and Elijah later...
In Jewish eschatology, Elijah will return to announce the Messiah...
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
The other 2 candidates to fill the other position are none other than Moses or Enoch.
Personally, I have found more literature in Judaism that support Moses as being along side of Eljah, but I have seen mention of Enoch.
Jewish data supporting Moses as the 2nd of the 2:
1. Moses and Elijah are always tied together.....
Mal 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the statutes and judgments.
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mat 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
Moses, as thou hast given thy life for them (the Israelites) in this world, so in time to come (the days of the Messiah) when I shall bring Elias the prophet, you two shall come together. (Debarim Rabba, sect. 3. fol. 239.2.)
Moses, I swear to you, as you devoted your life to their service in this world, so too in the time to come when I bring Elijah, the prophet, unto them, the two of you shall come together. [Midrash Rabbah Deuteronomy]
(After the first tablets of the ten commandments are broken, Moses pleads for the people.) God replied: "Thou desirest Me to forgive them. Well, then, I shall do so, now fetch Me hither tables on which I may write the words that were written on the first. But to reward thee for offering up thy life for their sake, I shall in the future send thee along with Elijah, that both of you together may prepare Israel for the final deliverance."
(Legends of the Jews, Louis Ginzberg, Book 3)
And for Elijah....
...The resurrection of the dead cometh through Elijah of blessed memory. [Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sotah 49b]
...the holy spirit leads to the resurrection of the dead; the resurrection of the dead leads to Elijah the prophet. [Midrash Rabbah Song of Songs]
....The resurrection of the dead will come through Elijah, who will likewise act as the herald to announce the advent of the Messiah. [Everyman's Talmud]
I'll get back with the ref for Enoch and Elijah later...
D
Darrell dunn
Guest
Sorry Georges
I put the word YOU in that post.
I was not pointing my finger at Georges when I said that. Bad habit.
I was telling everybody that read this tread.
It will be Elijah and Moses.
When I asked God He took me through some set of happenings to Mat.17:2-3 The only place in scripture where the names are in one scripture.
Knowing about Elijah in Malachi 4:5, knew that he would be one.
Also I suspected Moses because of Mal.4:4 , But the Lord then took me to Jude9 and told me that the body of Moses was taken right at his leaving it, because He would need it again.
I put the word YOU in that post.
I was not pointing my finger at Georges when I said that. Bad habit.
I was telling everybody that read this tread.
It will be Elijah and Moses.
When I asked God He took me through some set of happenings to Mat.17:2-3 The only place in scripture where the names are in one scripture.
Knowing about Elijah in Malachi 4:5, knew that he would be one.
Also I suspected Moses because of Mal.4:4 , But the Lord then took me to Jude9 and told me that the body of Moses was taken right at his leaving it, because He would need it again.
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noblej6
Guest
Hi Vic,
I have never spent much time trying to determine who the two witnesses may be.
Some go to great length to figure this out. Why are some so curious, do you know why this is so important to some?
Thanks
noble6
I have never spent much time trying to determine who the two witnesses may be.
Some go to great length to figure this out. Why are some so curious, do you know why this is so important to some?
Thanks
noble6
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Georges
Guest
noblej6 said:
Noble....I know you asked Vic the question but as being part of the "some", I will tell you why it matters to me....It has to do with interpreting the book of Revelation (the most Jewish book in the NT) in a hebraic manner. I mean, if the Jews write about Two Witnesses who announce the advent of the Messiah, what else do they know that is of importance to that part of Bible prophecy?
Vic C.
Member
I can't speak for some, but "some" have spoken. I can't explain it better than George.noblej6 said:
Daniel says Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. I believe in progressive revelation. I feel we 'see' that throughout the Bible. I believe the Lord felt the need to reveal things to John in Revelation that weren't known until then. Even still, all was not revealed.
I liken it to why evolutionists feel the need to find their "missing link". The knowledge of knowing, or believing we know the identity of the two witnesses can help unlock some of the 'mystery' of The End. Maybe it's just curiosity; or maybe knowledge IS increasng.
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noblej6
Guest
Hi Vic,
Thanks, I can go along with that.. I was thinking there may be some deep involved meaning that I was missing out on again.
noble6
Thanks, I can go along with that.. I was thinking there may be some deep involved meaning that I was missing out on again.
noble6
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Darrell dunn
Guest
In DAN.9;27 it speaks of a 7 year covenant,
This covenant is between the Jews and God ( read Dan.11;28- 31 The Holy covenant)
The 7 years start with the sealing of 144,000 Jews for 3 1/2 years and being finished with the two witness for 3 1/2 years making 7 total.
This also says that ENOCH can not be one of the two because he isn't Jewish.
This covenant is between the Jews and God ( read Dan.11;28- 31 The Holy covenant)
The 7 years start with the sealing of 144,000 Jews for 3 1/2 years and being finished with the two witness for 3 1/2 years making 7 total.
This also says that ENOCH can not be one of the two because he isn't Jewish.
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Georges
Guest
Darrell dunn said:
Thank you Darrell....much better, now I know your reasoning.....but Darrell consider this concerning the Dan 9:27.
Who is making the covenant.....?
Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Darrell, it isn't God, or even the Messiah (capital P on Prince) who confirms the covenant, but rather the false messiah (prince (small p) that shall come) is the one who confirms the covenant.....he doesn't create it, he acknowledges it. In Dan 11, he (the prince) as prophecy dictates will distain the covenant.
This is getting off track a little of the subject but I needed to make that point.
I don't particularly see where the 2 witnesses have to be Jewish....only that they have to be God fearers....I do think they are of the line of Jacob....
I don't believe Moses or Elijah were from the tribe of Judah...however, they are son's of Jacob.
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Darrell dunn
Guest
Georges
QUESTION Who was the first 69 weeks of the covenant between?
Dan.9;2 the Lord came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem. WHO? with WHOM?
And in 9:24 with Daniel's people The Jews.
And I know of this teaching, But Daniels book was sealed till the time of the end, Using Hebrew, the word time means 1 year.
How long has this been taught?
When reading you will find Only in Dan. that this is used.Dan.11:35, 11:40, And 12:9
Most of the rest say end of days or last days, or latter days
QUESTION Who was the first 69 weeks of the covenant between?
Dan.9;2 the Lord came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem. WHO? with WHOM?
And in 9:24 with Daniel's people The Jews.
And I know of this teaching, But Daniels book was sealed till the time of the end, Using Hebrew, the word time means 1 year.
How long has this been taught?
When reading you will find Only in Dan. that this is used.Dan.11:35, 11:40, And 12:9
Most of the rest say end of days or last days, or latter days
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irishrain
Guest
Darrell dunn wrote:
Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Darrell your craming all the tribes into just one tribe of Judah. There are 11 more tribes to the House of Israel.
Just thought to draw this to your attention. :angel:
Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Darrell your craming all the tribes into just one tribe of Judah. There are 11 more tribes to the House of Israel.
Just thought to draw this to your attention. :angel:
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Georges
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Darrell dunn said:
We are getting way off the subject....if you like let's start a new thread with your covenant/people topic.
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The First Witness
Guest
I think what is important is not who they were ..but who their spirits are in the flesh today and can we can we recognize them.
Rev; 11: 8-10 states
“That their bodies will remain unburied in the streets for three and a half days and the People from all nations, (4) tribes,(5) languages,(6) and races (7) will look at their bodies for three and a half days and will not allow them to be buried. The people of the earth(8) will be happy because of the death of these two. They will celebrate and sent presents to each other, because those two prophets brought much suffering upon mankind. (9)â€Â
The global stage was repeated and therefore emphasized nine times. It is very important to God that all kindred of the earth be given an equal opportunity to witness (see and know) Him and the outpouring of the essence of His spirit. None of the other prophets to date have had this opportunity to work on this new stage (the World Wide Web & CNN, for example), and therefore they are false prophets.
They needed and required this stage. As soon as the stage was under construction they acted.
He didn’t send 3-25 engineers, observers, doctors, accountants, weapons inspectors, detectives or secret police. He did send two (2) witnesses. Why? Because He only needed two (2). Why witnesses?
I believe He sent us the answer. They are the answer (a close pair always referenced as one) . We must Witness. We must stand and testify on the strenght of personal observation that "something" is true. Now what is that "something"?
Rev; 11: 8-10 states
“That their bodies will remain unburied in the streets for three and a half days and the People from all nations, (4) tribes,(5) languages,(6) and races (7) will look at their bodies for three and a half days and will not allow them to be buried. The people of the earth(8) will be happy because of the death of these two. They will celebrate and sent presents to each other, because those two prophets brought much suffering upon mankind. (9)â€Â
The global stage was repeated and therefore emphasized nine times. It is very important to God that all kindred of the earth be given an equal opportunity to witness (see and know) Him and the outpouring of the essence of His spirit. None of the other prophets to date have had this opportunity to work on this new stage (the World Wide Web & CNN, for example), and therefore they are false prophets.
They needed and required this stage. As soon as the stage was under construction they acted.
He didn’t send 3-25 engineers, observers, doctors, accountants, weapons inspectors, detectives or secret police. He did send two (2) witnesses. Why? Because He only needed two (2). Why witnesses?
I believe He sent us the answer. They are the answer (a close pair always referenced as one) . We must Witness. We must stand and testify on the strenght of personal observation that "something" is true. Now what is that "something"?
Clearly Moshe Rabainu and Eliyahu.
Also, this my or may not be coincidence but I believe the two witnesses do their work during the millenium (for those nations who are left alive after Messiah delivers his bride, Israel). Compare Zechariah 14:17-19 and Revelation 11:6.
Also, I know they are Moshe and Eliyahu because Peter recognizes this on the mount of transfiguration. If we read Zechariah 14:16-21, we find that the kingdom is come and all families of the earth will be keeping Sukkot (Tabernacles, whether literally or figuratively) or will be plagued with no rain or some other plague.
This is, I guess, what that thingy was about when Messiah was transfigured. Peter, remembering Zechariah 14:16-21, asked to build 3 sukkot (ever wonder why he asked that, lol?)
Anyway, the point is Moshe and Eliyahu were there when Messiah was transfigured. Tie it in with Zechariah and I think we've figured it out.
Also, on a more personal level, I believe the two olive trees and the two witnesses are the two houses of Israel typified by Moshe and Eliyahu since Moshe was a Levite (part of Judah) and Eliyahu was an Ephraimite, so both houses are represented.
Also, this my or may not be coincidence but I believe the two witnesses do their work during the millenium (for those nations who are left alive after Messiah delivers his bride, Israel). Compare Zechariah 14:17-19 and Revelation 11:6.
Also, I know they are Moshe and Eliyahu because Peter recognizes this on the mount of transfiguration. If we read Zechariah 14:16-21, we find that the kingdom is come and all families of the earth will be keeping Sukkot (Tabernacles, whether literally or figuratively) or will be plagued with no rain or some other plague.
This is, I guess, what that thingy was about when Messiah was transfigured. Peter, remembering Zechariah 14:16-21, asked to build 3 sukkot (ever wonder why he asked that, lol?)
Anyway, the point is Moshe and Eliyahu were there when Messiah was transfigured. Tie it in with Zechariah and I think we've figured it out.
Also, on a more personal level, I believe the two olive trees and the two witnesses are the two houses of Israel typified by Moshe and Eliyahu since Moshe was a Levite (part of Judah) and Eliyahu was an Ephraimite, so both houses are represented.