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The ultimate creator has a creator?

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Why do the Catholics say mother of God. God cannot have a creator. nor is she co-redemptrix with Jesus. Pope John Paul II said that she bled in her heart along with Jesus as she knealt before him. Then they have those hail mary's, 10 of them i think. why should they HAIL mary, she was just a woman entrusted to stay a virgin until she would bear a child of the Holy Spirit. She her self had said, I need a saviour. she admitted sin. she is not pure. FOR ALL HAVE COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD
 
Jesus (PBUH) neither God nor Son of God,
Jesus son of mary was no more than Prophet,

God almighty does not have son or wife, the true God does not have mother.
 
Muhsen said:
Jesus (PBUH) neither God nor Son of God,
Jesus son of mary was no more than Prophet,

God almighty does not have son or wife, the true God does not have mother.
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God's son is God himslef. If he is to be named GOD, why can't he become flesh? He created it. He has the power to be like one of us, just without sin.
 
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus'

one 'mediator'? how can god be his own mediator? if jesus is god then you are talking DIRECT to god are you not?

all signs in the bible lead to the humanity of jesus.
 
TheStudent said:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus'

one 'mediator'? how can god be his own mediator? if jesus is god then you are talking DIRECT to god are you not?

all signs in the bible lead to the humanity of jesus.
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God is Jesus, Jesus is God. It's that simple. why do you ask if he is his own mediator? The trinity is 3 divine persons in one.
 
Comparing Trinitarian Christianity to the Wiccan Triad is as accurate as comparing monothestic Native American belief with Islam.

Cattle and Grizzly bears both have four legs- are they identical?
 
Khaine said:
Orthodox Christian said:
Cattle and Grizzly bears both have four legs- are they identical?
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No, but they are both quadrupeds. You?
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I am a bi-ped. Are those rings on your fingers, or knuckle callouses?
 
Christ_is_great said:
Why do the Catholics say mother of God. God cannot have a creator. nor is she co-redemptrix with Jesus. Pope John Paul II said that she bled in her heart along with Jesus as she knealt before him. Then they have those hail mary's, 10 of them i think. why should they HAIL mary, she was just a woman entrusted to stay a virgin until she would bear a child of the Holy Spirit. She her self had said, I need a saviour. she admitted sin. she is not pure. FOR ALL HAVE COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD
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That's true when you say, 'that God cannot have a creator and so God cannot have a mother.' Because God would be self-created. I think that stuff about the virgin Mary and Christ's birth by the Holy Spirit is all baloney. I think Mary might have been a virgin before conceiving Christ and that's why they sing, virgin Mary. Anyway, prophets are not born but rather form I think according to the circumstances they go through. Because of that, their mind goes towards the mind of God and understands it better than most others. Which is the precise reason why sometimes they can be given to proclaiming, "I'm the Alpha and the Omega." That's crazy, but I guess they just can't help saying that because being so close to God they start to feel one with Him. But they cannot be God in human form, only after though, because God is Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent. Because God is perfect so the prophets also seem to be near perfect and in our imperfect world find it difficult to survive and feeling threatened, they project their insecurities on the world and prophecy, the end of times etcetera. But our world must be eternal because why would God Himself being eternal make something not eternal?
 
Wrong. God made us eternal, but sin caused us to fall from eternity.
 
No, sin would still keep us eternal, but it would be eternal damnation, and salvation would be the key!
 
Christ_is_great said:
Why do the Catholics say mother of God. God cannot have a creator. nor is she co-redemptrix with Jesus. Pope John Paul II said that she bled in her heart along with Jesus as she knealt before him. Then they have those hail mary's, 10 of them i think. why should they HAIL mary, she was just a woman entrusted to stay a virgin until she would bear a child of the Holy Spirit. She her self had said, I need a saviour. she admitted sin. she is not pure. FOR ALL HAVE COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD
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Catholics have been deceived and led down the path of apostacy...

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Benedict XV, Inter Sodalicia, 1918: "To such extent did Mary suffer and almost die with her suffering and dying Son; to such extent did she surrender her maternal rights over her Son for : man's salvation . . that we may rightly say she redeemed the human race together with Christ."


Plus XI, 1935, in a prayer to close a jubilee, we find the first use of the word Coredemptrix by a pope: "O Mother of love and mercy who, when thy sweetest Son was consummating the Redemption of the human race on in the altar of the cross, didst stand next to him suffering with him as a Coredemptrix."


Did the false Mary of Rome have any thing to do with purging our sins?
Not according to God's word!


Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had ***by himself*** purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

The Lord Jesus Christ purged our sins ***by Himself!***That means that Mary played no part in purging our sins!

The Roman Catholic Jesus and gospel is not the same as the biblical gospel.

Roman Catholicism is a religion but it is not Christian. It promotes a false gospel and this is only one aspect of this religions heresy.
 
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