The wage

[Angel]

Do you think people who work at Fast Food (coughMcDonaldscough) should receive 15 dollars an hour?
I think...... No way!
There are people in management positions who make less than that. Some teachers make less than that.

 

[Christ_empowered]

I dunno...I think a living wage is a good idea. Wages have fallen flat and in some cases gone down a bit (when adjusted for inflation) for a lot of workers, so...this could be a push in the right direction.

Plus, I think this is the way our society is going...more to the progressive, maybe a bit socialist, end of things.

 

[Angel]

I'm not going there.

 

[Angel]

Guess I opened a can of worms. Probably shouldn't have made this thread.

 

[Milk-Drops]

My position on wages is that a person should be able to support themselves on the wage they earn from the job they have, especially if the employee is expected to be a committed member of a work force, they should receive compensation for their time to at least justify their basic needs unless the employee decides to wave said compensation.

The $15 dollar argument is useless because its just a number and doesn't qualify whether the work itself is worth the money. Instead the question you asked is if a Mcdonalds employee should be paid that much. The labor should dictate the wage, not the social stigma. Depending on your station, it can be just as dangerous working at Mcdonalds as it is in some factory or wear house jobs that pay more than Mcdonalds.

If your argument is about skilled labor, there are skills that you pick up by working in a fast food chain, just like starting out at a factory or any other trade. Most trade jobs aren't anymore complicated than food preparation, yet fetch more in wages.

A lot of this has more to do with unions and social stigma than the actual job.

Should Mcdonalds be forced to pay its employees 15 an hour? No, but I can understand why workers would demand it, the job is high pressure, working next to dangerous equipment, in blistering heat, and with high demands. There is a case for workers to ask for more compensation.

 

[Angel]

Interesting

 

[Milk-Drops]

Interesting

So, what is your position?

 

[Fish Catcher Jim]

Do you think people who work at Fast Food (coughMcDonaldscough) should receive 15 dollars an hour?
I think...... No way!
There are people in management positions who make less than that. Some teachers make less than that.

Hello Angel,
Well Can I say Yes and No ? LOL
I believe if a big increase was given to all area of laborers as well then yes let the fast food people make a higher wage. Other wise it is people wanting fast money to go with their fast food. ; )
Seriously though.........There are so many people working hard and I mean working jobs that used to take two people to do and getting what ? 7 to 8 dollars an hour ?? Give me a brake here......I know I used to be one of those people........

 

[Eugene]

I’ve always been of the opinion that the marketplace dictates the price of rice in China so to speak. If a hamburger stand becomes too expensive, we simply go to another one. Elevated employee costs raise the cost of their product, and many previous customers will, or can no longer eat there. The business suffers loss of cash flow and they soon attempt to cut corners resulting in a less desirable merchandise.

In the category of other products, many are moving to other locations where they can hire lower cost wage earners. To me it is just another attempted form of welfare, and soon only the rich will be able to afford anything. .

 

[Fish Catcher Jim]

I’ve always been of the opinion that the marketplace dictates the price of rice in China so to speak. If a hamburger stand becomes too expensive, we simply go to another one. Elevated employee costs raise the cost of their product, and many previous customers will, or can no longer eat there. The business suffers loss of cash flow and they soon attempt to cut corners resulting in a less desirable merchandise.

In the category of other products, many are moving to other locations where they can hire lower cost wage earners. To me it is just another attempted form of welfare, and soon only the rich will be able to afford anything. .

AMEN Brother..........Look at how much it cost to feed a family of four at one of those places now...Sure is not like it used to be. lol

 

[Milk-Drops]

I’ve always been of the opinion that the marketplace dictates the price of rice in China so to speak. If a hamburger stand becomes too expensive, we simply go to another one. Elevated employee costs raise the cost of their product, and many previous customers will, or can no longer eat there. The business suffers loss of cash flow and they soon attempt to cut corners resulting in a less desirable merchandise.

I agree with the notion that the success of a business is determined by the demand for their product and the business's ability to meet such demand. The problem I'm seeing is that the demand is there, but short sighted business practices are causing rifts between employees and employers. The business wants to make money with the least amount of expense, and the employee wants to meet the demands of their cost of living. Right now the millennial generation is statistically underemployed and hold massive amounts of debt. We are on the verge of another bubble burst economically and most of the money circulating in our economy is not made at the millennial level, but is coming from baby boomers, gen x, and gen y. Considering the shake up that happened about 8 years ago with the housing crash, its looking like another one is coming fast and the prosperity train is slowing to a halt. Aspects of our society will continue to advance, but the income won't be coming from the Millennial generation. In short, we are sitting on a very fragile house of cards.

In the category of other products, many are moving to other locations where they can hire lower cost wage earners. To me it is just another attempted form of welfare, and soon only the rich will be able to afford anything. .

The only thing the occupy movement got right is that most of the wealth in the US is controlled by a small group. The problem is that the money isn't circulating so our economy is slowing in growth.

Occupy supports the redistribution of wealth because they see it as the only way to continue on the path we are headed economically. That doesn't mean that its ethically right, it just means that we can't sustain our economy in this way for ever.

The larger problem is the student loan bubble and the high unemployment/under employment of millennial. When the large retirement of the Baby boomers happens, it might help stabilize the economy, but until then there is going to be economic tension between this younger generation and the last few.

 

[Mike S]

I think people who work at fast food places should earn exactly what the employer is willing to pay. Right now that isn't $15 per hour.

If that doesn't suit the worker, find a different job.

 

[Angel]

So, what is your position?

I worked at Jack In The Box for a year.
The job was easy. I kept busy with cleaning, cooking at my station, taking orders in the front, handling money.
Would I have liked an increase in pay? Who wouldn't? I did learn how to take directions, treat customers, and keep the restaurant sanitary. I am not above cleaning toilets.
However, if I would like a career out of it, I would get a degree and be an assistant manager or Manager. And you know, if I was to be, I would give raises to hard workers. But if fast food workers were to get 15 dollars an hour, then they better hike up jobs that people worked in school to get like teaching or counseling or architects, etc.
I'm not putting down Jack in the Box. I actually really enjoyed working there! And honestly I would love to manage one of their restaurants. And who says you can't make it a career? But if you do, work hard and the boss will move you up.

 

[jasonc]

I get paid 16 dollars and hour to walk. I make more now then when I was working the fleet and don't have to the amount of tools nor training to do the job. its not easy physically and we run through people but shoot for me its one of the easier jobs once I learned the methods of reading and walking fast.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Do you think people who work at Fast Food (coughMcDonaldscough) should receive 15 dollars an hour?
I think...... No way!
There are people in management positions who make less than that. Some teachers make less than that.

That's a lot of money to pay someone to spit on your burger when you're not looking. $10-$12? Yeah, I'm okay with 'dat.

But let's start talking wages when people stop spending the money they say they don't have on booze, cigarettes, weed, and pills.

 

[Michael74]

Instead of constantly trying to figure out how to re-adjust fast food wages to compensate for inflation, just get rid of inflation. Divers weights and measures are unbiblical.

Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good. Proverbs 20:23 KJV

 

[dianegcook]

I think they should have more money, but not 15$.
10 maybe.

 

[jeff77]

Do you think people who work at Fast Food (coughMcDonaldscough) should receive 15 dollars an hour?
I think...... No way!
There are people in management positions who make less than that. Some teachers make less than that.

I think they should receive however much McDonald's wants to pay them. There shouldn't be a law forcing them to pay them that much.

 

[WIP]

Do you think people who work at Fast Food (coughMcDonaldscough) should receive 15 dollars an hour?
I think...... No way!
There are people in management positions who make less than that. Some teachers make less than that.

I feel wages is a private matter between the employer and the employee. To the question then is, yes if that is their agreement.

 

[Milk-Drops]

That's a lot of money to pay someone to spit on your burger when you're not looking. $10-$12? Yeah, I'm okay with 'dat.

But let's start talking wages when people stop spending the money they say they don't have on booze, cigarettes, weed, and pills.

I agree that there is a noticable portion of our society that spends its money on escapist substances, but the problem is a separate issue from the wage. A person with a pill problem is the same whether they are making 1 dollar or 100 dollars an hour.