The Woman, The War In Heaven, The War On Earth

[WalterandDebbie]

Wednesday 9-11-24 4th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Elul 7 5784 84th. Summer Day

Revelation 12

The Woman

1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

The War In Heaven

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

The War On Earth

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Love, Walter And Debbie

 

[LeviR]

The wonder that takes place in heaven is not taking place in the heaven where God dwells. It is taking place in the heaven of the earth. Meaning it is taking place among rulers of the earth.
The Woman refers to the remnant of believers who are to establish the Kingdom of God on earth. She is crowned to rule the Kingdom based on the apostles of Christ.(12 stars)
The child she is to giving birth to is to be king of that kingdom. A king like David. Christ’s rule over that Kingdom is an angelic one. The child to be born is mortal.
The believers are escaping from the red dragon king who seeks to kill the baby to be born.
The red dragon kills one third of the believers.
This is when Michael and his angels will fight against the dragon king and his angels.
Michael’s angels will cause the dragons angels to be destroyed by the sword.
This is done when men fight against each other.
The fighting of men, one against the other, will cause the dragon king to be cast down from his high place of rule over the kingdom.
He will pursue the remnant of believers (the woman) to destroy her. But she will be helped by the earth( the common people) and the angels which are causing this to take place behind the scenes.

This is how God works and has worked in the past. The angels are sent forth to control what is happening in both the heaven(rulers) of the people(earth) to bring about the establishment of a kingdom.
They cause men to fight against each other and determine the desired outcome.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

The wonder that takes place in heaven is not taking place in the heaven where God dwells. It is taking place in the heaven of the earth. Meaning it is taking place among rulers of the earth.
The Woman refers to the remnant of believers who are to establish the Kingdom of God on earth. She is crowned to rule the Kingdom based on the apostles of Christ.(12 stars)
The child she is to giving birth to is to be king of that kingdom. A king like David. Christ’s rule over that Kingdom is an angelic one. The child to be born is mortal.
The believers are escaping from the red dragon king who seeks to kill the baby to be born.
The red dragon kills one third of the believers.
This is when Michael and his angels will fight against the dragon king and his angels.
Michael’s angels will cause the dragons angels to be destroyed by the sword.
This is done when men fight against each other.
The fighting of men, one against the other, will cause the dragon king to be cast down from his high place of rule over the kingdom.
He will pursue the remnant of believers (the woman) to destroy her. But she will be helped by the earth( the common people) and the angels which are causing this to take place behind the scenes.

This is how God works and has worked in the past. The angels are sent forth to control what is happening in both the heaven(rulers) of the people(earth) to bring about the establishment of a kingdom.
They cause men to fight against each other and determine the desired outcome.

Good morning, LeviR. How are you all?
After John sees the doors to the heavenly temple opened, a great sign appeared in heaven. The vision in Revelation 12 describes a war in heaven followed by a war on earth. The dragon attacks a woman and her child, forcing her to flee into the wilderness for a period of time where she will be protected by God.

Who is the Woman in Revelation 12? - Reading Acts​

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Love, Walter

 

[LeviR]

Good morning, LeviR. How are you all?
After John sees the doors to the heavenly temple opened, a great sign appeared in heaven. The vision in Revelation 12 describes a war in heaven followed by a war on earth. The dragon attacks a woman and her child, forcing her to flee into the wilderness for a period of time where she will be protected by God.

Who is the Woman in Revelation 12? - Reading Acts​

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Love, Walter

It is my understanding that this is the prophecy of Jesus and the day when God will judge His people by the man whom He appointed.
Jesus.
What John saw in heaven(where God dwells) are those who will be involved in the judgments to take place on the earth.
What he is next shown, are the things to take place on the earth at the time of judgement.
Therefore, the woman is the remnant of the people of Israel who have the testimony of Christ and have refused to worship the beast and his image.
The red dragon has 7 heads and 10 horns, the same as the beast because the dragon is in conspiracy with the beast and rides upon him.
The woman is the remnant of believers in Jerusalem who the kingdom of God and Israel will be established after they are victorious over the dragon king and the sea of nations.

 

[LeviR]

The war in heaven does not take place in the heaven where God dwells, it takes place among the heaven (authority, kings) who rule the people(earth).

 

[WalterandDebbie]

The wonder that takes place in heaven is not taking place in the heaven where God dwells. It is taking place in the heaven of the earth. Meaning it is taking place among rulers of the earth.
The Woman refers to the remnant of believers who are to establish the Kingdom of God on earth. She is crowned to rule the Kingdom based on the apostles of Christ.(12 stars)
The child she is to giving birth to is to be king of that kingdom. A king like David. Christ’s rule over that Kingdom is an angelic one. The child to be born is mortal.
The believers are escaping from the red dragon king who seeks to kill the baby to be born.
The red dragon kills one third of the believers.
This is when Michael and his angels will fight against the dragon king and his angels.
Michael’s angels will cause the dragons angels to be destroyed by the sword.
This is done when men fight against each other.
The fighting of men, one against the other, will cause the dragon king to be cast down from his high place of rule over the kingdom.
He will pursue the remnant of believers (the woman) to destroy her. But she will be helped by the earth( the common people) and the angels which are causing this to take place behind the scenes.

This is how God works and has worked in the past. The angels are sent forth to control what is happening in both the heaven(rulers) of the people(earth) to bring about the establishment of a kingdom.
They cause men to fight against each other and determine the desired outcome.

Thank you Sir.

Love, Walter

 

[WalterandDebbie]

It is my understanding that this is the prophecy of Jesus and the day when God will judge His people by the man whom He appointed.
Jesus.
What John saw in heaven(where God dwells) are those who will be involved in the judgments to take place on the earth.
What he is next shown, are the things to take place on the earth at the time of judgement.
Therefore, the woman is the remnant of the people of Israel who have the testimony of Christ and have refused to worship the beast and his image.
The red dragon has 7 heads and 10 horns, the same as the beast because the dragon is in conspiracy with the beast and rides upon him.
The woman is the remnant of believers in Jerusalem who the kingdom of God and Israel will be established after they are victorious over the dragon king and the sea of nations.

Thank you Sir.

Love, Walter

 

[WalterandDebbie]

The war in heaven does not take place in the heaven where God dwells, it takes place among the heaven (authority, kings) who rule the people(earth).

Thank you Sir.

love, Walter

 

[for_his_glory]

Rev 12:1-6

John is shown a great sign in heaven as he sees a vision of a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet. The sun is representative of the glory and brilliance of Gods righteousness that surrounds her and protects her. Under her feet the moon which is illustrative of eternity, light, Gods faithfulness in His Son Jesus who is the greater light of the gospel age as Jesus being the light of the world that shines in darkness, but the darkness can not comprehend the light, Psalms 72:5-7; Isaiah 2:3-5; Jeremiah 31:35-37; Isaiah 30:26-33; John 1:1-5.

The woman is symbolic of Israel and the congregation of Gods people as she wears a crown of twelve stars which represents the twelve tribes of Israel that have repented of their arrogance as they felt they deserved Gods favor, but yet kept killing the prophets God sent to them, including the very Messiah they were waiting for. This is when the times of the Gentiles began as God went to them to take Himself a people that were humbled enough to receive salvation as God had mercy on them, Matthew 23:37-39; Acts 15:14; Romans 11:25-27.

Paul also warned the Gentiles against being lifted up in pride because they had been favored by God with salvation as he explained the blindness of Israel would not last forever as when they see the Gentiles now having favor in the Lord and being grafted into the branch of Israel they repent of their sin and turn back to God being once again found in His favor, Romans Chapter 11.

The true congregation of God can be symbolized here as a mother that has all here children gathered in one place for safety which in this case is under the wings of the almighty God, Psalms 91. She cries out like a woman in labor as the pain of her persecutions has become too great to bear as she waits to be delivered from her persecutors, 2 Timothy 4:18; 2 Peter 2:9; Colossians 1:13.

The other sign John saw was a great red dragon meaning Satan. Remember, this is a vision and a sign as Satan has not yet been thrown out of heaven yet. The description of the dragon being great and red depicts its nature and character as being fierce and murderous, John 8:44. This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8. The last kingdom which stands greater than all the others is that of a revived Roman Empire that takes control over all the ten nations who then implements a deceiving peace treaty to a world that is in great distress.

The woman here represents the true congregation of God that flees to the wilderness for 1290 days just as Jesus forewarned her to do so in Matthew 24:15, 16. Jesus said when you see the abomination that causes desolation stand in the holy place Jesus is speaking about the son of perdition (the beast out of the earth, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12; Rev 13) taking a literal seat in Jerusalem on the very Temple Mount of God where the Dome of the Rock presently stands.

The abomination will be that of a New World Order with a singular governmental power that controls all economic, political, educational and religious authority that takes its seat in Jerusalem, Isaiah 14:12, 13; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12. This new government is a Global power giving false hope to the entire world as even the very elect of God will be deceived if possible, Matthew 24:24. The four horsemen in chapter 6 represent the false Christ, global wars, famine, sickness and disease that is brought on by mans sinful nature as they refuse to repent and turn back to God as they are lovers of self and their heart is full of pride and lust.

Rev 12:7-17

War begins on earth as prophesied by in Daniel 12:1-3. The woman (Jew and Gentile as the Gentile is grafted into that vine that is Jesus) goes into her place in the wilderness as she is given two eagle wings, Exodus 19:4, where she is nourished for three and a half years or 1260 days, Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7; Revelation 11:1-3.

Her place means to stand in the holy place, which is our strength and faith that is Christ whom we call upon in our time of need as we pray for courage and fortitude to stand against Satan especially now that he has been cast out of heaven and placed here on earth. Satan is now ready to persecute the woman to death and she is told to flee from the temptation that is about to take place as many will renounce Jesus at this time as they truly do not have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them.

Satan cast water out of his mouth (water is a metaphor for word as in John 3:5) as a flood or powerful words sent forth to persecute the woman to death, but the earth, the Spirit of the Lord, Isaiah 59:19, set up a standard against Satan that he saw no fear in them. This greatly angered Satan as he went out to destroy the remnant of her seed meaning all who claim Jesus as Lord and Savior all over the world.

Up to this point in Revelation we have seen the woman as only being Israel under the covenant of promise of eternal life with the father. The outer court given to the Gentile as they will trample it and bring back the sacrifices, but not the sacrifice that is for sin as they are under the cloud of darkness as they are ruled by Satan unaware. We have seen a standard set up against Satan that he saw no fear in the house of Israel as they have always kept Gods commandments and the testimony of Christ as they and their generations after them were sent out to preach to the Jew only, Matthew 10:6, that have been scattered all over the world.

Satan is enraged with anger against Israel now because he found no fear in them and now seeks to destroy her remnant which are those Gentiles that Paul was instructed to go out and preach to, Acts 22:21. Daniel had no insight of a Gentile nation turning to God so this is why only Israel is mentioned, but now it has become Israel and those Gentiles grafted into her branch that makes up the whole body of Christ.