The word "Church" is not scriptural.

[JudaicChristian]

The word "Church" is not in scripture.

The word "Assembly and Congregation" are INTERPRETATED as Church. Now what do you think of that?

If you will take notice, the word Church is not used in the Old Testament. The word Ekklesia is used 114 times, and mostly as an INTERPRETATION for Church and a few times as Assembly or Congregation. The word Church is an INTERPRETATION were as Assembly or Congregation would be a TRANSLATION.

The ecclesia or ekklesia was the principal assembly of the democracy of ancient Athens during its Golden Age (480-404 BCE). It was a gathering place for politicians and voters. This is what the point of this subject is: Many Christians place the importance of a "Church" as the only means of salvation, when in fact it is the believers themselves that are The Body of Christ. Salvation is obtained by your keeping of God's precept and Commandments in addition to the testamony of Yahshua. And that is what scripture says. That is The New Covenant. The True Church is the "congregation" of believers. A Chuch is a building for public gatherings of various sorts. Where ever the true believers assemble, that is the congregation. And again like I have said before, the word church is an interpretation for the words Assembly and Congregation.
:naughty

 

[Adullam]

Church comes from the old saxon "crutch." It's what makes people feel upright in the sight of men.


(OK I'm kidding about the first part!;-))

 

[Rocksolid]

Church is just the name for a place where Christians meet. Any sin in Christians meeting?

 

[Jon-Marc]

I find it interesting how some people have nothing better to do than to find fault with words we use to describe something. Some words I find offensive, but "church" isn't one of them. It's in the King James Bible, and that's good enough for me.

 

[JudaicChristian]

I find it interesting how some people have nothing better to do than to find fault with words we use to describe something. Some words I find offensive, but "church" isn't one of them. It's in the King James Bible, and that's good enough for me.

The words unicorn, Easter, Godhead, and Apostle are also in the KJV. The KJV also says that God is evil and that He does evil. The KJV is also know as the Masonic bible. A person can only find the truth by searching things out. Seek and you shall find.

 

[epistemaniac]

the word "bible" is not in the bible, therefore the idea of a "bible" is unbiblical.... and round and round we go....

blessings,
ken

 

[JudaicChristian]

Church is just the name for a place where Christians meet. Any sin in Christians meeting?

The word "church" is a contradiction to the words of Yahshua. Matthew 26:61
Finally two came forward and declared, "This fellow said, 'I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.' "
John 2:21
But the temple he had spoken of was his body.
100.1 Corinthians 3:16
Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?

101.1 Corinthians 3:17
If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple.

102.1 Corinthians 6:19
Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; Ephesians 2:21
In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord.
Revelation 21:22
I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

 

[JudaicChristian]

the word "bible" is not in the bible, therefore the idea of a "bible" is unbiblical.... and round and round we go....

blessings,
ken

The words "scripture," scrolls, and "books" is in the bible. "Book"

 

[Captain Sarcastic]

I find it interesting how some people have nothing better to do than to find fault with words we use to describe something. Some words I find offensive, but "church" isn't one of them. It's in the King James Bible, and that's good enough for me.

Agreed, sir. It looks like the OP's just trying to get out of his responsibility to assemble with other saints. :halo

 

[Rocksolid]

John 2:21
But the temple he had spoken of was his body.

In that case, you might be able to argue that it's blasphemy to call a place of worship a "Temple". So, we'll just call it a church.

 

[francisdesales]

[quote="Jon-Marc":26ft85tl]I find it interesting how some people have nothing better to do than to find fault with words we use to describe something. Some words I find offensive, but "church" isn't one of them. It's in the King James Bible, and that's good enough for me.

Agreed, sir. It looks like the OP's just trying to get out of his responsibility to assemble with other saints. :halo[/quote:26ft85tl]

It is sad how our times is marked to such a large degree by the "advancement" of this anti-biblical idea of the "church of one" (Me and Jesus)

Like you said, it is just excuses. If one villifies or denies the existence of a community built upon the Rock by God Himself, then one can erect their own "church of one" upon the "sands" of themselves...

Regards

 

[Pogo]

mdo757 -

You might find comfort worshiping with the Jehovah's Witnesses.

They totally agree, as well as teach your view.

In Christ,

Pogo

 

[XTruth]

Finally, someone is finally bold enough to bring this truth to light. For centuries now, there have been so many great deceptions taught by demons and seducing spirits (1 Tim.4:1), but none so great as this name substituted for the assembly and congregation that is "the church."

 

[JudaicChristian]

Finally, someone is finally bold enough to bring this truth to light. For centuries now, there have been so many great deceptions taught by demons and seducing spirits (1 Tim.4:1), but none so great as this name substituted for the assembly and congregation that is "the church."

All right! Some one is on my team. The reason I brought the subject up is, because the (Edit) "Church" says that salvation can only be found in their "Church." And I believe that is the reason for them to replace the word congregation with "Church." By the way, if anyone is wondering; I'am a Judaic Christian. AKA as a Judaizing Christian. And no, I do not believe that a person has to be circumcised.

 

[JudaicChristian]

mdo757 -

You might find comfort worshiping with the Jehovah's Witnesses.

They totally agree, as well as teach your view.

In Christ,

Pogo

I visit different "Congregations." It would not bother me to visit them. I come from a Baptist up bringing. I also like the 7th day Adventist and Messianics. :yes

 

[JudaicChristian]

[quote="Jon-Marc":1rzps9xg]I find it interesting how some people have nothing better to do than to find fault with words we use to describe something. Some words I find offensive, but "church" isn't one of them. It's in the King James Bible, and that's good enough for me.

Agreed, sir. It looks like the OP's just trying to get out of his responsibility to assemble with other saints. :halo

It is sad how our times is marked to such a large degree by the "advancement" of this anti-biblical idea of the "church of one" (Me and Jesus)

Like you said, it is just excuses. If one villifies or denies the existence of a community built upon the Rock by God Himself, then one can erect their own "church of one" upon the "sands" of themselves...

Regards[/quote:1rzps9xg]
If a person is paying close attention to scripture, they will find that Yahwah is called "The Rock," and Yahshua is called "The Stone."

 

[JudaicChristian]

John 2:21
But the temple he had spoken of was his body.

In that case, you might be able to argue that it's blasphemy to call a place of worship a "Temple". So, we'll just call it a church.

Now I wonder who would not want you to know that it is the Congregation Zion that are the people that the world has come against in the last days. Armageddon
or Harmagedon: Revelations 16:16. "and in the Hebrew language it is called Armageddon."
There is no word "Armageddon" in the Hebrew language; the word Armageddon is a contraction and mistranslation for the words,"Mount of the Congregation Zion".

Ar / ma / ged / don. Also: Har / ma / ged / on.
Har / edah / siyyon.
Har: Mount or Mountain.
Edah or Mowed: Assembly, Community or Congregation.
Siyyon: Zion. Isaiah 29:8
as when a hungry man dreams that he is eating, but he awakens, and his hunger remains; as when a thirsty man dreams that he is drinking, but he awakens faint, with his thirst unquenched. So will it be with the hordes of all the nations that fight against Mount Zion.
Revelation 16:13,14 and 16

13. Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14. They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs, and they go out to the kings
of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty. 16. Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon. (Mount of the Congregation Zion)

 

[Pogo]

mdo757 -

How does anyone know where to draw the line on versions, translations, interpretations, etc., of every word of scripture?

Studying English translations of scriptures created in foreign languages of ancient times is fraught with unending risk!

What about worshipping the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; or should it be Jehovah, Jesus, and Holy Spirit; or should it more properly be Yahweh, Yahshua, and (?what?)?

Where will it end?

Pogo

 

[JudaicChristian]

mdo757 -

How does anyone know where to draw the line on versions, translations, interpretations, etc., of every word of scripture?

Studying English translations of scriptures created in foreign languages of ancient times is fraught with unending risk!

What about worshipping the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; or should it be Jehovah, Jesus, and Holy Spirit; or should it more properly be Yahweh, Yahshua, and (?what?)?

Where will it end?

Pogo

For sure it is a burden to search these things out, but it also has the reward of setting you free of errors.

 

[francisdesales]

If a person is paying close attention to scripture, they will find that Yahwah is called "The Rock," and Yahshua is called "The Stone"

Simon is called "rock". The Greek for "stone" is not "kephas".