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The worlds philosophy is tolerance!

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Anna1334

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The worlds philosophy is tolerate do not condemned!
Why does the world teach us, that we must tolerate everybody's wrong doing? Did Jesus tolerate sin no! Did any of the apostles, tolerate wrong doing? They confronted the problem and told them to repent. Why are Christians so naive today? Are you really reading the word of God? They are fallowing New Age beliefs. Do you really believe that if all the Apostles were preaching this love and not condemned sin, that anybody would have killed them! We the Christians; are to be hated; by the world, and if everybody loves you guess who is not there. Jesus said if they hated Me they will also hate you. He also said in the Gospel of John the world hates Me because I keep telling them that their ways are evil. (John 7:7.) Can you tell me-- about this word tolerance? I hate it. Sure Jesus had tolerance for the sinner, but never for the sin. Can you see the where this is leading. Where is the fear of the Lord, and how is, one to repent, if all is justified by the world’s tolerance. Christians we need another John the Baptist today. The whole body of Christ is being deceived by the New Age. Why does the world keep telling us to be tolerant? And were does justice take place. Today’s thinking brains!

Today we have the smartest People the best technology but we forgot our morals, and now we stand at the brink of disaster waiting to happen.
We need to obey the laws Yeshua--Jesus has given us in His Holy Word the Bible and we must obey it. I love all kinds of freedom, except the freedom to do what is wrong in God's eyes. So yes I respect all religions. Except the one that justifies wrong behavior like raping murder and so on.

We as Christians need to be the light of the world because The New age is telling us if you kill it's because it is in your genes, they are always justifying; wrong instead of dealing with the problem. We cannot keep on blaming our parents for all the wrongs we do, and we must take full Responsibility for our actions when we hurt another human being. We must also be able to tell the people God said this is the way, you must walk, when people go against God's laws; they hurt themselves, others and God. For the just must live by faith but if he turns back I will have no pleasure in him says the Lord. Anna : :nono
 
You are quite the doom and gloom type aren't you?

Why does the world teach us, that we must tolerate everybody's wrong doing?

Because the world is full of sin.


Did Jesus tolerate sin no! Did any of the apostles, tolerate wrong doing? They confronted the problem and told them to repent.

Yes, but he did it with love. He did not do it with malcontent and frustration.
 
The natural man cannot understand the things of God, nor can he be expexted to. Also he doesn't want to.

A lukewarm Christian (so called) doesn't care either, because he lives just like them. And the scriptures tell us in the latter times, men will get worse and worse.

So yes you can speak out, but like that famous Knight, you may find yourself fighting windmills.
 
I think there should be tolerance, in the historical definition of the word.
 
Todays meaning of "tolerance", is, in practice, the epitome of intolerance. It is defined according to the humanists definitions, and that meaning everything is to be tolerated except biblical truth and the true character of Jesus Christ and all that he stands for.
If you want to define Jesus as a much-gush little ecumenical god of humanistic politically correct peace and love, then he will be totally tolerated by the "tolerate". But define Him as who He is in scripture.. as the one who tells us to "go and sin no more" and "no man come to the father except by me", then the tolerate will verbally persecute and crucify you.

Yep, that word "tolerance", in practice, these days, is the epitome of intolerance; Just as good is now being called evil and evil, good.
 
The worst thing I've noticed with "tolerance" is if one opposes anything, anything at all, then you're labeled with hate, a bigot, discrimination or just about anything but having a differing opinion. In short, there is absolutely zero-tolerance for opposition.
 
Boy do I agree! Anybody who stands up for anything in this present society is going to be lamblasted! I thank God for people with the moxy to defend their values, which surely isn't for cowards nowadays. So many lifestyles, for example, are being treated with "tolerance"- lifestyles that cause deep hurts in individual's lives. So, to my view, to either tolerate or excuse something that hurts people is just as cruel as criticizing them for it. Only the Holy Spirit can make us balanced, otherwise we live in hurtful extremes. Today's extreme is closing a blind eye to the bleeding and saying, "That's okay, it's normal."
 
You are tolerated if you oppose good.. you will not be tolerated if you oppose evil. They have been conditioned to think light is darkness and darkness is light.
 
I honestly believe the problem began or came into vogue with the focus on self, self esteem. It spawned the flood of self-help books to make one feel good about oneself. Everywhere, including schools, the word was feel good about yourself and live a happier life. There was no room any longer for criticism of any kind. It went against what was being taught. So many came to expect that everyone else should also look after their best interests in the feelings department. After all, the word was out teaching a feel good philosophy. Anything else was taboo.
And some take the lessons very seriously even to the point of killing those who offend. No longer does, "Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me." apply. And of course, "I may not agree with what you say but I'll fight for the right for you to say it." is long gone as well.
This is a feel good culture, over-sensitive and self-focused on the individual parts rather than the whole. And there's no going back.
What I find really ironic with the all-tolerance philosophy is that to preserve peace and order no-tolerance regulations must be applied.
 
Rick, I have goosebumps reading what you've shared - I SO agree! It's a powerful and true observation. The "self-esteem doctrine" is so dangerous; this thinking, which is worldly, has crept into the church. Someone who comes to Christ may come from an abusive background, say, and feel that all they need is to feel better about themselves - and sadly, the church is agreeing with them, and providing religious support. "To find your life you must lose it" isn't being applied as it once was. Or, "I must decrease that He might increase." The way to healing isn't self-awareness, but God awareness.
 
What I find really ironic with the all-tolerance philosophy is that to preserve peace and order no-tolerance regulations must be applied.
They want a utopia where anything goes (except truth) and nothing divides.
 
Thanks to all who responded and understand me; i love people but i hate sin because sin destroys the human soul and it eats up at you like a cancer. I know this all to well, i thank my parents for never covering my sins but expose them to me; and all because they loved me. Yeshua loves us the same way; you think you are getting away with sin but you will reap what you saw. Yes i think this world is rotten to the core and most of the people are politically correct today; including look warm Christians, who confess with their mouth that they love Yeshua, but this same Yeshua knows your heart. Thanks Rick for your post, it was very informative. Psalms 1 is how Yahweh would like us to be. :amen Anna
 
What an incredible thread...Glory to GOD Who sees and knows the heart, even the things we hide.
 
GojuBrian said:
You are quite the doom and gloom type aren't you?

Why does the world teach us, that we must tolerate everybody's wrong doing?

Because the world is full of sin.


[quote:2tfimwa4]Did Jesus tolerate sin no! Did any of the apostles, tolerate wrong doing? They confronted the problem and told them to repent.

Yes, but he did it with love. He did not do it with malcontent and frustration.[/quote:2tfimwa4]

Hi GOjuBrian.

Plase elaborate on how Christ, or the apostles "did it with love". Last I checked, GOD punishes us because HE loves us...not by pussy-footing around and handling us with kit gloves. Our parents did much the same, admonishing us with love when we broke the rules, isnt it?
 
I think this is the old case of define the word, what we believe it to mean!

While I agree with the general sentiment here, I also see gojobrian point as well and agree with it.

Maybe gojobrian is coming from the point of a lot of christians I see that spew hate from their mouths, not stopping with sin but then going on to slag the person of - ie gay people?

One example, I see 'christians' with their hate banners against gays spewing hate to cameras but where is the love and concern for the person's soul? I think you can say you believe the scriptures say 'x' is sin but do so in a respectful, though not watered manner.

I like how Rick Warren handles it, he has made his position on the ACT of homosexuality goes against bible teaching and is sin (the old love the sinner but hate the sin) but that these people are lost and need to repent and come to Jesus just like the good person who goes to church every Sunday but still isn't a Christian.
Rick goes outside his church and gives water to all those gay people that picket his church daily and spew hate and other things purely because of his beliefs - now that to me is how a christian should be.

Everything we do should come from love first of all and not hate. But out of love for people we need to point out to people clearly that everyone needs to come to the cross and be saved and repent and follow Jesus and if you don't you will be lost but that can and should be done in a loving way without watering down the message one bit.
It's a hard balance sometimes, especially when the non christian can spew hate at us calling us intolerant cause we don't want gay marriage etc, and it's so easy to lash back at them pointing out their hypocrisy.

So tolerant of sin? - NO but tolerant of people while we share the gospel, knowing they are lost and they 'don't get it''?- YES. Just my :twocents
 
Rick said:
The worst thing I've noticed with "tolerance" is if one opposes anything, anything at all, then you're labeled with hate, a bigot, discrimination or just about anything but having a differing opinion. In short, there is absolutely zero-tolerance for opposition.

Boy if that didn't say it all......... :thumb Cause that's the truth all up in your face!!! Well said. And people don't seem to get it, that we don't even have tolerance with our own sin, let alone others, but somehow that is always left out of the thought process with opposition. Good one Rick!

Ginger said:
So tolerant of sin? - NO but tolerant of people while we share the gospel, knowing they are lost and they 'don't get it''?- YES. Just my :twocents

Well said girl!!!! But alot of people don't see this as a whole with tolerance, one or the other which just confuses me to pieces how some people (lost or atheist) think.
 
As you can see here how the ones who tolerate will bring the gay picture into focus. Yahweh hates that sin and so do i, it doesn't matter if it is sodomy or witchcraft or prostitution; they all ruin a nation and this is were we are right now, they are at the top and we at the bottom. It is okay to be a witch, gay or prostitute; but if you say publicly Jesus is God look out you might offend somebody. Where is tolerance for the Christians to be open as the gays are. Christians are to be the salt of the Earth, instead we hang our heads for fear we might offend somebody with the gospel, while all the people who really do wrong in Yahweh's eyes are walking around with pride and think nothing of sin. This is because we do nothing to stop this corrupt government when they stick their nose in the church. I believe in freedom of speech freedom of rights except the rights that destroy a nation.

The problem with the people today and also label Christians is that they believe that Jesus and Yahweh are two different God's and they are not the same person.
They are the same God and if you do not understand this concept; than read your Bible. I tell you when He Yeshua-Jesus comes back all those who destroy this world with their sin will eigther repent or perish; and yes tremble at Jesus' presence.

Put your speakers on and read who is this Jesus you so much think is a pussy cat, and come holler at me after. My dear husband wrote this one and did the work in photo shop.
May our Lord have mercy on us all.

http://www.yeshuastruth.com/pages/The Great And Terrible Day Of The Lord.html
 
Love suffers long and is kind and patient. This is sometimes leads people to excuse and do nothing at all or accuse wrongdoing and be over-zealous to punish immediately.

Jesus gave a balance that is not easily seen with our natural, fleshly eyes, but is seen by the eye of faith...To return good for evil, and to bless those that curse you/us.

Be Blessed...Ret
 
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