The Wrath to Come !

[(THE)]

Savedbygrace

Satan reigns supreme in the local churches even as we speak, the aod is now, you are seeing it right now, but you dont understand it..

It may be I understand more of the Word then you could imagine ,,,but lets break down the scripture .....

You say the AOD is taking place right now,,,,,,then you got some questions to answer bud.....

The AOD is satan standing where he ought not (Jerusalem) claiming to be Christ returned,,,please tell me went his happen...

Mark 13:14
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains

I have yet to see people in the land of Judea fleeing into the mountains......have you????

For satan to take away the daily sacrifice (AOD) he must be here on earth,,,so your saying satan is already been kicked from heaven???????????

1And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

,,,,,,which means that the 1st beast of revelation 13 has completed its rising up.....

1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

---SO you are saying the 1 world system is already finished???????????????

----and since satan is the second beast that means this has already taken place?????????

11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

SO you are saying satan has already emerged on the scene,,,with his locust army,,,well thats a problem in itself seeing as how he only has 5 months to do his deed....

5And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

All these things must happen before the Abomination of the Desolator can take place....

So I would say I understand these things to a T,,,but if I were you,,, I would go back and review Daniel chp 9 because there is no way that I am watching the AOD right now.......heads up,,,,the AOD will be broadcast throuout the whole world,,,there will be no question as to if it is happening whne we see it we will know 100%,,,well I will........

 

[savedbygrace57]

Yes, the AOD is happening now, but not many understand that ? Only those with wisdom from God knows it..

The false churches of today claiming the message of Jesus Christ, thats the AOD..In fact Jesus says it another way right here:

Matt 24:

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

The False prophets will of course preach a false Christ, and they shall deceive many because God has sent the religious world a strong delusion to believe a lie..2 thess 2:


9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Yes Sir, we are in it, and I witness it with my own eyes..

 

[veteran]

veteran:

Glad to see there's brethren here after all that well know Christ's Kingdom is yet to be established on this earth like God's Word says it will be.

Gods kingdom has been established by christ already, it was a spiritual kingdom ..Jn 18:36

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Gods kingdom that has been established by Jesus christ, will be manifested on earth shortly, but its a present reality..

Not ONLY do I agree that God's Kingdom is a Heavenly Kingdom, but I agree also Christ's Kingdom is BOTH spiritual and physical.

Christ's Kingdom is manifested on earth today through His servants. I agree with that too. But who's kingdom today is manifested under Satan's servants on earth? Definitely not our Lord's.

And...

1 Cor 15:50
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
(KJV)

There's a difference Biblically between the kingdom Christ delivers up to The Father, and the kingdom of God in final. The kingdom of God is to be a Heavenly Kingdom established on this earth in the future, after all the wicked are destroyed. That's what the Psalmist is talking about with the meek inheriting the earth. That time has not arrived yet.
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[savedbygrace57]

What is the abomination of desolation ?

The word abomination is the greek word:

bdelygma:


foul thing, a detestable thing

a) of idols and things pertaining to idolatry

The word desolation is:

er?m?sis
a making desolate, desolation

Our english definition of desolation is:

1. The state of being decayed or destroyed.

2. A bleak and desolate atmosphere.

3. Sadness resulting from being forsaken or abandoned.

4. An event that results in total destruction.


So the AOD is something detestable in Gods sight, and becomes worthy of destruction, to be forsaken by God..

matt 24:

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

Notice Jesus is speaking to the disciples, His church at the time, and He says to His church, when ye shall see ! This means when His chosen shall see..

Remember, these were his chosen Jn 15:

16Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Now, of course those literal men did not live to see this, but nevertheless, the elect who would be living at the time, they shall see it..

The word for see is the greek word:

eidon:

and it means more of a perceive or perception, the same word is used in Jn 3:

3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

So Gods chosen will be given discernment to see and understand when the AOD makes manifest itself..

And Has to do with the temple of God, the most Holy place..

Now what is the Most holy place Now ? The Old temple where the Most Holy Place was, has been done away with by the death of Christ, because He fulfilled all that it typified and foreshadowed..

Since then, you have called the temple, the body of the believer 1 cor 6:

19What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

The believers collectively as in the local assembly 1 cor 3:

16Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

17If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

eph 2:

20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Over the centuries, the visible church has been the outward representation of the temple of God on earth..

But something has happened to this temple ? This Holy Place..

 

[(THE)]

Yes, the AOD is happening now, but not many understand that ? Only those with wisdom from God knows it..

The false churches of today claiming the message of Jesus Christ, thats the AOD..In fact Jesus says it another way right here:

Matt 24:

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

The False prophets will of course preach a false Christ, and they shall deceive many because God has sent the religious world a strong delusion to believe a lie..2 thess 2:


9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Yes Sir, we are in it, and I witness it with my own eyes..

YOur kinda all over the place here......

There is no evidence to present,,,, to prove your case,,,and thats why your all over the place....

Daniel 9:26 "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for Himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and unto the end of the war desolations are determined."

Daniel 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

The person being spoken of is satan,,,,,he is the (he) being spoken of,,,, that will cause abomination and make desolation....

See God gives very very strict instructions concerning what people are to do that are living in the land of Judea when the Abomination takes place....

14But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

SO if the abomination of desolation is taking place right now,,,why isnt anyone in the land of Judea fleeing to mountains??????????????????????????????

During this time the word also tells us

21And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

there is no-one claiming to be Jesus Christ right now,,,,,ok maybe some wacko,,,but no one is making fire come from the sky.....

13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

The word says around this time this will also be happening

24But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

SO my friend has the sun been darkened yet ??????? Has the moon failed to give light??????

YOu dont need to tell me the AOD is happening,,,,I have satellite tv,,,I will see it ,,,the whole world will see it ,,,satan will claim to be Christ,,,he will look just like Christ act like Christ and say he is Christ .......

He will take away communion ,,,do you know what communion is?????????

DO you see anyone taking away communion right now????????????


Daniel 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.' "

 

[savedbygrace57]

The says:

YOur kinda all over the place here......

You just dont have understanding of scripture..

 

[(THE)]

The says:

YOur kinda all over the place here......

You just dont have understanding of scripture..

Ok lets try this one more time......YOu say the AOD is happening right now ,,,I will show what the AOD is then I will show why its not happening at this time..... :yes

What is The AOD???? Well I told you before!! so I will go into greater detail this time,,,I wouldnt want you to think I dont understand scripture........

Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand"

Ok so we need to look at what the book of Daniel tells us concerning this "Abomination of Desolation"

Daniel 9:27; "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and the determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

As a reader you should note that the word "desolation" should read (Desolator) in the Hebrew it clearly says abomination will come on the wings of a desolator....The word "Desolator" refers to a person ,,, a being,,,an entity,,,,not a condition..

So this Desolator (satan) will cause abomination,,,how will he cause?????????

DANIEL 9 for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,

The desolator (satan) will cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease............

what is the sacrifice and oblation???????????

Psalms 40:6 "Sacrifice and offering Thou didst not desire; Mine ears hast Thou opened: Burnt offering and sin offering hast Thou not required [continue sentence to next versel]"

When Christ died he replaced the burnt offerings with His ULTIMATE sacrifice and now we take communioun,,, this has now become or daily oblation.....

MATTHES 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.

27And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;

28For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

SO the desolator (satan) is going to take away our holy communion by saying he is Christ returned,, when he does this those in the land of Judea are to flee into the mountains


14But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

15And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:

16And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment.

17But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

18And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter.

19For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

So again can you please tell me when satan took away the holy communion because everybodys still taking it???????????????

So can you show me the temple satan did this in ???????????

Can you show me people running in the mountains or Gods wrath being poured out right now??????


YOu cay say I dont know scripture but this conversation looks like :fullauto :drool

 

[savedbygrace57]

The says:

......YOu say the AOD is happening right now

Yep, the church is now corrupted by satan and His demonic doctrines..1 tim 4:1


Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

 

[(THE)]

The says:

......YOu say the AOD is happening right now

Yep, the church is now corrupted by satan and His demonic doctrines..1 tim 4:1


Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Game set match......... :chicken

 

[savedbygrace57]

The AOD is how the true saints see now the false gospels of satan have taken over the sanctuary of God..Instead of Gods word being the rule, men, starngers have polluted the holy place:

ezk 44:

7In that ye have brought into my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations.

As paul predicted 1 tim 4:1

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

These evil demons were let out of the pit..for that purpose..rev 9:2

And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.


11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

satan being loosed [ and his demons ] for what ? rev 20:

7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Thats where we are now currently in world history..The Nations are deceived with false gospels, and the false christ they portray..

 

[(THE)]

The AOD is how the true saints see now the false gospels of satan have taken over the sanctuary of God..Instead of Gods word being the rule, men, starngers have polluted the holy place:

ezk 44:

7In that ye have brought into my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations.

As paul predicted 1 tim 4:1

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

These evil demons were let out of the pit..for that purpose..rev 9:2

And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.


11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

satan being loosed [ and his demons ] for what ? rev 20:

7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Thats where we are now currently in world history..The Nations are deceived with false gospels, and the false christ they portray..

DO you believe Rev 9:2 has already taken place????????

 

[savedbygrace57]

The AOD is how the true saints see now the false gospels of satan have taken over the sanctuary of God..Instead of Gods word being the rule, men, starngers have polluted the holy place:

ezk 44:

7In that ye have brought into my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations.

As paul predicted 1 tim 4:1

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

These evil demons were let out of the pit..for that purpose..rev 9:2

And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.


11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

satan being loosed [ and his demons ] for what ? rev 20:

7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Thats where we are now currently in world history..The Nations are deceived with false gospels, and the false christ they portray..

DO you believe Rev 9:2 has already taken place????????

Of course, and the thousand years are up as well..we are here in world history..rev 20:


3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

We are at the tail end to that little season..you have been deceived..

 

[(THE)]

The AOD is how the true saints see now the false gospels of satan have taken over the sanctuary of God..Instead of Gods word being the rule, men, starngers have polluted the holy place:

ezk 44:

7In that ye have brought into my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations.

As paul predicted 1 tim 4:1

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

These evil demons were let out of the pit..for that purpose..rev 9:2

And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.


11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

satan being loosed [ and his demons ] for what ? rev 20:

7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Thats where we are now currently in world history..The Nations are deceived with false gospels, and the false christ they portray..

DO you believe Rev 9:2 has already taken place????????

Of course, and the thousand years are up as well..we are here in world history..rev 20:


3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

We are at the tail end to that little season..you have been deceived..

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Please stop talking to me like Im some nube,,,,I have not been decieved and you are not proving point just stating what you believe,,,,,,but you have just made yourself look very ignorant.....

Of course, and the thousand years are up as well..we are here in world history..rev 20:

You sound like someone who believe Revelation is written in chrnological order ,,,you need :help

When satan is locked up,,,,that will start the millenium,,,,When Christ returns we will all be changed into our spirtual bodys (but all will not be immortal)

What you a re saying is that the millenium has begun which means,,,your saying Christ has already returned.......And you dare tell me I have been decieved......

Besides you dont answer my questions you just run from them,,,because if you did answer,,you would be contradicting yourself all over the board,,,hmmmmmmm wise choice to avoid them......

Heres another you wont answer,,,,,If Revelation 20 has begun,,,why are we not in spiritual bodys??????

 

[savedbygrace57]

the says:

I have not been decieved

I am afraid you have been..

 

[(THE)]

the says:

I have not been decieved

I am afraid you have been..

Your like a busted up boxer in the ninth round still looking for glory,,,give it up,,,,,I have addressed every one of your points,,,,,your doctrine is weak,,,,you have no proof,,,,,and your theory has been decimated........man,,, know when your beat ......

Christ returns on the seventh trump

Satan is looked up on the seventh trump

the millenium begins on the seventh trump

we are changed on the seventh trump...

and you ARE TRYING TO TELL ME THE SEVENTH TRUMP AS ALREADY PASSED.........

 

[(THE)]

the says:

I have not been decieved

I am afraid you have been..

Your like a busted up boxer in the ninth round still looking for glory,,,give it up,,,,,I have addressed every one of your points,,,,,your doctrine is weak,,,,you have no proof,,,,,and your theory has been decimated........man,,, know when your beat ......

Christ returns on the seventh trump

Satan is looked up on the seventh trump

the millenium begins on the seventh trump

we are changed on the seventh trump...

and you ARE TRYING TO TELL ME THE SEVENTH TRUMP HAS ALREADY PASSED.........

 

[savedbygrace57]

The says:

Your like a busted up boxer in the ninth round still looking for glory,,,give it up,,,,,I have addressed every one of your points,,,,,

You may have called yourself addressing them, but it still remains you are in darkness and deceived..

 

[(THE)]

The says:

Your like a busted up boxer in the ninth round still looking for glory,,,give it up,,,,,I have addressed every one of your points,,,,,

You may have called yourself addressing them, but it still remains you are in darkness and deceived..

I think if you answered the questions ,,,,then it would become clearly evident who is decieved (wrong) but by you dodging the questions it becomes clear you decieved and afraid to debate your doctrine....

How about showing us how the 1000 years has begun already ??????????????

2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

How about showing us satan has already been locked up????????

3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


How about showing us the 7 trump as already been blown???????????

7But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.


How about showing us we have all been changed ???????

1 Corinthians 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.


Dont you get it??????? until you can prove these things your thread is a joke,,,,all I am asking you to do is prove the things you say,,,,and instead of proving them you just say im decieved,,.,well if Im decieved and I know tons more then you ,,,then what does that make you ??????

 

[savedbygrace57]

the says:

I think if you answered the questions ,,,,then it would become clearly evident who is decieved (wrong

So now, you call me deceived and wrong, but a post ago you thought it was monstrous for me to say you were deceived and wrong, guess you have a double standard huh ?

 

[(THE)]

the says:

I think if you answered the questions ,,,,then it would become clearly evident who is decieved (wrong

So now, you call me deceived and wrong, but a post ago you thought it was monstrous for me to say you were deceived and wrong, guess you have a double standard huh ?

How about showing us how the 1000 years has begun already ??????????????

2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

How about showing us satan has already been locked up????????

3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


How about showing us the 7 trump as already been blown???????????

7But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.


How about showing us we have all been changed ???????

1 Corinthians 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.