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Thesaintman Asks

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Brother thesaintman, may God especially bless you this day to give you the peace you seek.
Please let us know what you would like us to pray for, and as for help we all need God's presence
in our lives to keep us.
I know from your past writings that you suffer in the trials of this present life, and that seems to be
what keeps us drawing close to God. I wrote the following pamphlet that you may be able to relate
to. You are not alone here either as many have problems. I hope the pamphlet is of help to you in
Jesus' name. Just click on the blue URL link below.
Christian Sufferings
http://www.christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/christian-sufferings.52898/
 
Zechariah 4:1-6; 4:11-14 explains that these two witnesses are the word of God in all power and might and the Holy Spirit which is the oil that is poured out on those who God anoints with His Holy Spirit. There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit that are one and three that bear witness in earth as being the Holy Spirit, the word and the blood of Jesus and these three agree in one, 1 John 5:7, 8. Only God can give power to act on His word as the Holy Spirit and Jesus bare witness to Gods power and authority especially through signs and wonders.

God exercises His power and authority through those of His great commission of Matthew 28:18-20 who are sealed by the Holy Spirit, 2 Corinthians 1:22, who have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. The sackcloth represents the anguish of Gods servants as they remain humbled before the Lord while baring witness to Gods wrath on the unrighteous as they go forth continuing to preach to the nations.

Zechariah speaks of two olive trees, but only one candlestick in the Old Testament. In this study we read there are two candlesticks. The two olive trees are the two anointed ones as being the two witnesses that are the Holy Spirit whom discerns and confirms the word of God in us by teaching us all truths, John 14:26, and Jesus being the light that shines in darkness as being the word made flesh to walk amongst us, John 1:1-5.

John is given the understanding that the two witnesses are in comparison to the two candlesticks and two olive trees, which if you read Zechariah Chapter 4 it explains that the golden candlestick is God. The seven lamps with the seven pipes that holds the oil (anointing) is that of the seven Spirits of God given to His Church: wisdom, understanding, counsel, knowledge, reverence, might and Spirit of the Lord, Isaiah 11:2.

The two olive trees are to groups of people. One group being natural Israel (Old Testament) as a remnant according to the election of grace have been saved as in the 144,000 taken from the twelve tribes of Israel that remained faithful to God up to a thousand generations thereafter that remain faithful, 1 Chronicles 16:13-17. The other being Gentiles (New Testament) grafted into the branch by that same grace of God that have been washed in the blood of the Lamb and sealed by His Holy Spirit, John 3:3-7; Romans 10:9, 10; 2 Corinthians 1:22; Romans Chapter 11. The two witnesses have always been those who have stood by God and His law in the Old Testament and those who stand by God and Jesus under the dispensation of grace in the New Testament.

There is a theory that the two witnesses could either be Moses, Elijah or Enoch, but scripture disputes this theory. Deuteronomy 34:5, 6 says Moses died in the land of Moab. Elijah was carried away in a whirlwind as described in 2 Kings 2:11 and lifted up to the first heaven meaning the firmament as in the atmosphere that surrounds the earth. He was only translated to an unknown area on earth as several years after he was taken away King Jehoram received a letter from him, 2 Chronicles 21:12. Paul says Enoch died in faith just as Abel, Noah, Abraham and their wives, Hebrews 11:5, 6, 13, but had not yet received the promise of eternal life as they also sleep in the grave until the coming of the Lord 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. Hebrews 11:13 Paul said Enoch was only translated and never said he was taken to heaven and lived to be around three hundred and sixty five.
 
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Dear Brother thesaintman, I do not see where scripture tells who the two witnesses are.

Are they just two men, or two parts of the Church such as we read of in Rev 1:20 . . . the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Rev 11:4 These (Witnesses) are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. If they are two portions of the Church, which parts of the Church are shown with Jesus before the tribulation begins?

They are assigned a task in Rev 11:1 . . . to measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. From studies I have, and believe this is to measure those of God by the word versus those not in the temple (the outer court - Rev 11:2).

In Rev 11:3 . . . they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, and just what is that for? 1Co 14:3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

Will the witnesses be like John the Baptist in Luk 1:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
Or Elijah of 2Ki 1:12 And Elijah answered and said unto them, If I be a man of God, let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee . . .

According to Rev 11:3 . . . they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days,
Rev 11:13 . . . the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. Evidently some did hear the testimony of the two witnesses.

If you wish to go further into this, please let me know. Blessings in Christ Jesus. :wave2
 
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

No one knows the day Jesus will return
 
what color would you like to wear inspire me !!!!!!!!!!
white for me !!!!!!!!!!!
 
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