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Lewis

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222,000 is to much for 24 songs, they are trying to bury this woman.


Court orders music pirate Jammie Thomas-Rasset to pay original fine of $222,000

Sep 11, 2012 3:08 PM
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Jammie Thomas-RassetA U.S. appeals court has reinstated a lower court ruling that found admitted music pirate Jammie Thomas-Rasset guilty of copyright infringement. The Minnasota woman has been ordered to pay the original $222,000 in damages.


Thomas-Rasset's case, which began in 2007, has been a convoluted one--complete with retrials, judicial orders, and a host of different decisions. Tuesday's award to the record labels comes from the 2007 ruling in which a federal jury ordered Thomas-Rasset to pay $9,250 for each of the 24 songs she was found to have pirated.


The presiding judge acknowledged errors in the instructions given to the jury in that case, so that decision was thrown out. Unhappy, the recording industry pushed for and got a retrial in 2009. The end result was much more favorable for the labels, with a jury awarding a whopping $80,000 per song -- a $1.92 million judgment.


The court found that award excessive, and reduced it to $54,000. The labels opted for a new trial on damages, and that jury found Thomas-Rasset liable for $1.5 million in damages. Again, the court reduced it to $54,000, citing the due process clause of the Fifth Amendment.
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All of the above court actions led to the current case in front of the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals. The labels argued for the original jury award to be reinstated, and for an injunction against Thomas-Rasset that bars her from pirating music any longer -- and that's exactly what they got.


"We conclude that the recording companies are entitled to the remedies they seek: damages of $222,000 and a broadened injunction that forbids Thomas-Rasset to make available sound recordings for distribution," the court ruled.
This decision puts Thomas-Rasset and her lawyers in a predicament. While they can still appeal the case to the Supreme Court -- which they've threatened to do -- it's now more likely that any decision will not come down in her favor as there's just too much going for the recording industry at this point.


At the same time, her lawyers may be able to successfully argue that the current law is intended to punish commercial use rather than illicit personal use, as my colleague Jared Newman wrote three years ago.
Such an opinion from the Supreme Court would prove valuable for the cases still making its way through the courts. That said, the justices would have to agree to hear the case in the first place, and that's never a sure thing.
 
Thats deep. When I lived in Pittsburgh they had bootleggers selling movies and music in the heart of downtown and the police did nothing. I was a good customer too. Could'nt beat the deals. $5 a pop compared to $25 or $30 at a store? Ha! And they sold movies before they came out on big screen. Go figure. Several theaters there shut down for lack of business, direct cause of the bootleggers. Will they soon charge the music and movie sites on the net? I think we'll have a lot of upset people if they do. Might cause a riot, huh? That poor women will never pay off that full fine unless she starts bootlegging under cover again. And if she has to do jail time it'll be a big laugh to other inmates when she tells'em why she's there. " Yo, I got 20 for bootlegging."A murderer gets less then that in some cases.
 
They are trying to make an example out of the poor girl. I think they are being much to harsh for that small crime.
 
All of this is pretty much rediculous to me, considering the amount of money artists make off records sales, song downloads through itunes and the like, radio play, and concert ticket sales. There really is no "victim" here. Just greedy record companies trying to make an example of someone just for the profit of it.
 
Whats the difference between this, and stealing 24 items at a store? If I take 240 dollars worth of merchandise, all I get is a slap on the wrist and pay a small fine.

Our justice system is completely backwards.
 
Whats the difference between this, and stealing 24 items at a store? If I take 240 dollars worth of merchandise, all I get is a slap on the wrist and pay a small fine.

Our justice system is completely backwards.

Actually, this would be completely different. The only way this would be comparable is if you bought a pen and made copies of it and either gave or sold the copies to other people.

Completely ridiculous comparison, I know, but there it is.
 
They can't punish everyone, or even most of everyone, who pirates media, so they make a huge example out of those they do punish.
Not that I agree with it.:eeeekkk
 
The law allows this woman to be fined up to $150,000 per song. It's just a reminder that Congress is bought and paid for.

Your children could be trading songs with friends, thinking it's completely harmless, but it could land mommy and daddy in the poor house for life.
 
The law allows this woman to be fined up to $150,000 per song. It's just a reminder that Congress is bought and paid for.

Your children could be trading songs with friends, thinking it's completely harmless, but it could land mommy and daddy in the poor house for life.
Wow $150.000 per song, that is crazy
 
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